Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Rain Spectre]

Legit, I wouldn't be surprised if Jump threw all the new serials of the most recent batch to the wolves just so they could prop up Samurai 8 in the short-term. Still would be really shitty...

 

[SharkBait]

Team tsukihina.

That's so much better than what I ever imagined the cp would be.

 

[Jovan]

So, the second TOC is by the same Baidu leaker?

I mean, it's not that impossible now that I am re-reading it, aside from Jujutsu and Act-Age randomly going near the bottom, and Neverland having the lowest in a while (still would be the 6th discounting CPs and newbies, which is good). Newbies that are not Samurai 8 are around the middle, 3 usual bottomers are there, Chainsawman still riding on a ranking wave etc.

 

[Halloween]

Legit, I wouldn't be surprised if Jump threw all the new serials of the most recent batch to the wolves just so they could prop up Samurai 8 in the short-term. Still would be really shitty...

Chainsawman stands to benefit more. Samurai 8 will be propped up by Kishi's name recognition.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Chainsawman stands to benefit more. Samurai 8 will be propped up by Kishi's name recognition.

Chainsaw Man was already basically a confirmed hit by the time Samurai 8 started though. Volume 1 was on, like, it's fourth reprint.

 

[Jovan]

Legit, I wouldn't be surprised if Jump threw all the new serials of the most recent batch to the wolves just so they could prop up Samurai 8 in the short-term. Still would be really shitty...

They are not going to cancel all 5 newbies now, with Souma's place already free. Honestly, they may as well just axe Yui and Saiyuki now, start 3 newbies and then decide on the rest.

Samurai 8 is pretty much safe, this Color Page it got is because of the popularity (said on the last chapter's ending), so it won't need fodders for that.

 

[Rain Spectre]

They are not going to cancel all 5 newbies now, with Souma's place already free. Honestly, they may as well just axe Yui and Saiyuki now, start 3 newbies and then decide on the rest.

Samurai 8 is pretty much safe, this Color Page it got is because of the popularity (said on the last chapter's ending), so it won't need fodders for that.

Well, duh, they won't now, but I feel like from the beginning those series were supposed to be sacrifices. Like (to use YGO analogies), sending three series to the graveyard was required for the summon.

 

[Halloween]

Chainsaw Man was already basically a confirmed hit by the time Samurai 8 started though. Volume 1 was on, like, it's fourth reprint.

You don't seem to understand that Samurai 8 is already popular and/or will be very popular. It doesn't need cushions. Kishi is the biggest name in the magazine besides Oda and/or Toriyama. It'll survive purely on Kishi's name.

 

[Rain Spectre]

You don't seem to understand that Samurai 8 is already popular and/or will be very popular. It doesn't need cushions. Kishi is the biggest name in the magazine besides Oda and/or Toriyama. It'll survive purely on Kishi's name.

I mean, the matter of creators being unable to produce a second hit has been present for decades, so I don't blame Jump for being cautious.

 

[Neala897]

It'll survive purely on Kishi's namesake.

It wouldnt. If the name is all it got it wouldnt. If people arent interested in work they wouldn give it support no matter what name it has on it.

 

[Ctkk]

I mean, the matter of creators being unable to produce a second hit has been present for decades, so I don't blame Jump for being cautious.

This take is completely ridiculous. Even RobotxLaserbeam had great starting sales and survived for over a year. If Samurai 8 ends up going downhill, it'll be long after its batch buddies have been axed (or become established if any of them happen to be a hit), so of course they didn't serialize them to be cushions for anything. Heck, you still have Yui and Sayuuki there, and there will be more rounds with many series that will end up at the bottom. That's just how it goes, not an strategy to push Samurai 8.

 

[4Eyes]

It wouldnt. If the name is all it got it wouldnt. If people arent interested in work they wouldn give it support no matter what name it has on it.

Agreee, but it would at least pull a Platinum End. I'm expecting it to stick around for some time.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I don't doubt Samurai 8 will last at least a year before Jump actually evaluates it. I just feel like, by virtue of how "big" S8 is, editorial simply didn't care about the other series.

 

[Stivie]

4chan:

Pure Ranking

1 [ 941 ] One Piece
2 [ 156 ] Kimetsu no Yaiba
3 [ 103 ] Dr. Stone
4 [ 226 ] Boku no Hero Academia
5 [ 20 ] Chainsaw Man
6 [ 133 ] Yakusoku no Neverland
7 [ 239 ] Hinomaru Zumō
8 [ 63 ] Act-Age
9 [ 57 ] Jujutsu Kaisen
10 [ 157 ] Yuragi-sō no Yūna-san
11 [ 9 ] Saigo no Saiyūki
12 [ 8 ] Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

Average Ranking (8 Weeks)

1 [ 1 ] One Piece
2 [ 1.83 ] Kimetsu no Yaiba
3 [ 2.6 ] Yakusoku no Neverland
4 [ 3.2 ] Dr. Stone
5 [ 4 ] Black Clover
6 [ 5.17 ] Bokutachi wa Benkyō ga Dekinai
7 [ 5.71 ] Act-Age
8 [ 6 ] Jujutsu Kaisen
9 [ 6.25 ] Boku no Hero Academia
10 [ 6.43 ] Chainsaw Man
11 [ 7.6 ] Haikyū!!
12 [ 9.17 ] Hinomaru Zumō
13 [ 10.29 ] Yuragi-sō no Yūna-san
14 [ 10.5 ] Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui
15 [ 12.25 ] Saigo no Saiyūki

 

[Halloween]

It wouldnt. If the name is all it got it wouldnt. If people arent interested in work they wouldn give it support no matter what name it has on it.

So you're saying Oda's next work, whatever it is, wouldn't be a guaranteed hit?

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I mean, the matter of creators being unable to produce a second hit has been present for decades, so I don't blame Jump for being cautious.

Togashi did it. So did the Slam Dunk guy. Kishi is a bigger name than the other mangaka you can name, though.

 

[MangAniMY]

 

[Belkac3m]

Samurai 8 doesn't even deserve to be serialized given the quality of the first chapters.

 

[Konja9]

One question, how good (or bad) the sales of Dr. Stone are?

It is always high in the TOC, but I heard its sales are regular (I don't know the numbers).

 

[Neala897]

So you're saying Oda's next work, whatever it is, wouldn't be a guaranteed hit?

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Exactly. Even more. If Oda isnt going to get his grip back, OP is going keep on declining.

 

[Halloween]

Samurai 8 doesn't even deserve to be serialized given the quality of the first chapters.

lol

Jesus Christ, the hot takes lately.