Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Rain Spectre]

I don't quite know why we should be happy about Ikezawa being back. The man is an asshole, and deserves the hand fate dealt him.

 

[WyldViolet]

Lots of artists are assholes. What a silly fucking argument.
A strong personality doesn't affect ones ability to make art. In fact from a certain perspective it improves it.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I don't quite know why we should be happy about Ikezawa being back. The man is an asshole, and deserves the hand fate dealt him.

Wow so he is a asshole that should be banned from the manga industry because he said some stuff about some mangas? good luck banning all kind of artists in the entertainment business because that lol

People say worst things about mangas and authors here in this thread, including you, should you and all be banned too?

 

[El Jacco]

"This man said mean things about this series, he deserves be banned for life"

Good luck trying to enjoy any form of entertainment because you will always found that there are a lot of assholes in movies, television, etc., and of course, the manga and anime industry. If you don´t like the way he is, just don't consume his products.

 

[Halloween]

I don't quite know why we should be happy about Ikezawa being back. The man is an asshole, and deserves the hand fate dealt him.

*sigh*

Everyone covered everything that needed to be said, but I will say this, it is kinda funny that he finds success outside of Jump, and not only that, but with an ecchi series of all things.

Not sure how his past self would react to his current situation, if his controversial opinions were anything to go by.

 

[TxxT]

So what did you guys think about the new chapters of Ao no Flag and Spy x Family?

 

[Jovan]

So what did you guys think about the new chapters of Ao no Flag and Spy x Family?

Ao no Flag and last 3 chapters....hard to really comment much here. I could see people saying it is too preachy for it's own good and that it's TL;DR/too many words but I enjoyed the debate that happened, mostly because of a really good translation that made it to be written very well. I have to say it feels like the mangaka is self inserting his opinions too direct.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I have to update Spy x Family, 3 chapters behind but so far i'm really enjoying, very good manga.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Everyone can survive with an ecchi manga. It's just pitiful and low lmao

I mean...Yuuna technically is good ecchi, so I guess people have some standards? I guess? It's better than TLR, at any rate. (I'm gonna get bombarded by TLR fans, aren't I)

 

[lgrmjauffre]

I've never understood the argument that ecchi manga are some sort of lower form of art. Sure, there are probably some pretty bad ecchi manga, but there's also quite a few bad manga of every genre? I don't know. It just reminds me of those people who demand games be censored, yet never had any intention of playing it themselves even if it were.

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I mean...Yuuna technically is good ecchi, so I guess people have some standards? I guess? It's better than TLR, at any rate. (I'm gonna get bombarded by TLR fans, aren't I)

Nope, no bombarding. Both are really good. One being better than the other is just an opinion.

 

[LuckyJim]

I’d just like to point out that there’s still no confirmation that this guy actually is Ikezawa, it’s just speculation. The similarities in art style could be because he was an assistant or something.

 

[Halloween]

Speaking for myself, ecchi has never been something I've enjoyed all that much, regardless of quality. To me, it's like eating ice cream. I like ice cream, but every now and then, and not during every meal.

Sexiness is more impactful when it's stretched out, and not completely the core focus. But, having said that, I don't fault others who like ice cream during every meal.

 

[lgrmjauffre]

Speaking for myself, ecchi has never been something I've enjoyed all that much, regardless of quality. To me, it's like eating ice cream. I like ice cream, but every now and then, and not during every meal.

Sexiness is more impactful when it's stretched out, and not completely the core focus. But, having said that, I don't fault others who like ice cream during every meal.

I like ecchi, but I definitely understand. Some series are pretty borderline even for me. I've been keeping up with the Seven Seas volume releases of World's End Harem, but it's very close to being "too" ecchi.

If it were actually marketed and released as say a ****** series, it wouldn't be that odd, but the fact that it's an actually quite successful Shonen Jump+ title that is frequently one of the more popular titles makes its content seem "worse" by comparison, in my opinion.

 

[animeexpert]

I've never understood the argument that ecchi manga are some sort of lower form of art. Sure, there are probably some pretty bad ecchi manga, but there's also quite a few bad manga of every genre? I don't know. It just reminds me of those people who demand games be censored, yet never had any intention of playing it themselves even if it were.

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Just admit it, its lower form as author. Cheap money grab. Like isekai, garbo af

 

[Nemesis]

Also my favorite so far. Don't know if art improved or I just get used to it but I didn't strain my eyes this time

Same for me. My favorite chapter so far. The humor was really good, progression over the chapter was good as well, much like the pacing.

And yeah, the art seemed different somehow. It wasn't just you, I also felt that.

 

[TxxT]

Just admit it, its lower form as author. Cheap money grab. Like isekai, garbo af

I dont see the problem here

 

[Halloween]

This discussion reminds me of something I've wanted to ask you guys.

Which WSJ mangaka would you like to see make a ******? Or at the very least, a ****** of their own series.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Wow sooo edgy man, how people can like ecchi and isekai trash man? it's a lower form of art, i only like my super complex and deep superior battle shounens and deep seinen mangas! kkkkk

 

[lgrmjauffre]

Just admit it, its lower form as author. Cheap money grab. Like isekai, garbo af

I completely disagree. There are plenty of high quality, character driven ecchi series like To Love Ru, Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs, Yokai Girls, Monster Musume, etc.

There's plenty of bad manga of every genre. You can't just say one entire genre and every work within it is bad because that's simply not how it works. If it were a cheap cash grab, people wouldn't keep buying into it. They clearly like it not just for the ecchi aspect, or they would just go read/watch actual ******.

 

[TyVip]

To Love Ru is a man manga.