Games Mafia Game 72 - Fullmetal Alchemist - END GAME

[Lawl Po Bia]

how do you know that?

 

[digitaldude]

how do you know that?

Also, the following units contracted Not-Voter Disease.

- @Crescent Jinx
- @Erinyes
- @Vandred
- @GrySun


I assume these guys used their powers, maybe panda infected one.

 

[Vandred]

The sacrificial Panda

At least he was given a meme role. I can't think he was killed because of his hint, since he made a point of suggesting he had a weak one that had to rely on alchemy...

Pretty sure he chose yours truly to spread his last batch of germs to, by the way, since I haven't used alchemy last night. That's... appreciated

I'll be off for a few hours now, will share some more thoughts later.

 

[Demonspeed]

Only one death and that was Panda. There would have probably been one more death without Ground Transmutations.

 

[desin24]

i used ground on someone i suspected i wont name for now, will do it later, coz dont want him/she going for an easy claim if he/she is mafia lile im this but couldnt use it erin blocked me, lol

i dont know why they went for panda, but maybe its a redirected killig, in this case there might be a bk. also no idea how many killing parties there is, but i suspect either one big mafia and possibly a 3rd party or 2 small mafia, theres still imo a probability that a killing has failed (due to a protection or blocking role)

Not saying it also means that you leave it open for yourself to claim a block on someone you might not have actually blocked.

I did not use alchemy because I pretty literally slept through the entire night phase and thus missed the deadline. Before the day is over I hope we know who targeted who to be blocked. James' idea about Panda targeting a PGO is interesting since it would narrow down suspects to 4 people once we knew if a PGO was responsible for Panda's death. Still no need for any PGO to reveal him/herself

 

[uberfayt]

That's an unusual target i'd say,felt like we'd either deal with a dead Gry or Vandred tonight tbh.

I‘d never kill or let my team kill Panda as early as this.

Nooo, why Panda? Maybe mafias thought he was mafia too?

The point you are all raising here and reacting to is the fact that Panda (specifically) died early. Care to explain why this fact in particular has caught your attention? In particular, Seraph, why would you expect Gry or Van instead?

Sickly is a weird role to give considering the ground alchemy‘s powers too.

IMO Sickly in this game would be quite trolly, leading to situations where people get the no-vote decease w/o having used alchemy and thus creating some crazy scenarios. Sadly our sickly died now...
Also, on whom did you use your alchemy powers?

Demonspeed a bit too passive, James feels a bit weird too.

Care to elaborate on these claims? especially the latter.
Moreover, a hint on your role would be all but unwelcome at this point (I even asked you before in D1).


Now reading some of the previous posts.

 

[Asako]

They killed panda way to early and when he had a panda avy at that

Btw I wanted to say for holt case last day, i trust that he town.
I feel he's genuine when he was talking about taku + I think this it's party taku fault for giving a random locked vote really early without saying anything and then lurking, I'm more inclined to say that this may be a perfect way to frame holt and mafia following into the bandwagon insure his death and get those points, taku afterall was only in 2 votes at first, not enough to insure a definitive lynch till after other people joined.
I say it's pretty stupid if holt was mafia and he lied about seeing taku lurk just to get suspected and get lynched this early on, that's just a stupid plan that I don't see anyone doing that.

For being I trust, it's vand and holt for now

For people I distrust, it's desin, demon

Btw bare in mind that at least one of those who used got the vote disease are mafia, to get that stone

now I'm going back to sleeping I'll be back after that, till me anything right now before I fall asleep

 

[uberfayt]

Btw bare in mind that at least one of those who used got the vote disease are mafia, to get that stone

Mafias who votelocked and band-wagonned Taku were at 1+2=3 steps towards the stone already. Using the Ground transmutation or going for the kill would give them an additional point. So worst case scenario we are dealing with at least two non-townies with 4 steps...We should keep an eye on the four who got the decease.

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For being I trust, it's vand and holt for now

For people I distrust, it's desin, demon

Would you explain why?

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Btw @digitaldude could you say more today about your role?

 

[digitaldude]

Mafias who votelocked and band-wagonned Taku were at 1+2=3 steps towards the stone already. Using the Ground transmutation or going for the kill would give them an additional point. So worst case scenario we are dealing with at least two non-townies with 4 steps...We should keep an eye on the four who got the decease.

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Would you explain why?

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Btw @digitaldude could you say more today about your role?

I dont have a hint that wouldnt make it obvious which role I have, its a role that cant be used at night as I said. whats your role?

 

[uberfayt]

I dont have a hint that wouldnt make it obvious which role I have, its a role that cant be used at night as I said. whats your role?

I see. As for me, I did already give a hint (on page 2). Also, keep in mind that this is my first game, and that I'm green...guess that makes me a greenhorn.

Also, pretty surprised how quit it is around here and it's D2...

 

[digitaldude]

I see. As for me, I did already give a hint (on page 2). Also, keep in mind that this is my first game, and that I'm green...guess that makes me a greenhorn.

Also, pretty surprised how quit it is around here and it's D2...

indeed.

 

[Belserion]

Love how Panda's death has potentially "cleared" so many for whatever reasons. Of course being so quick to point it out, you know, in case no one else picks up on their obvious innocence, only makes me wonder if that's not the perfect cover. Like some sort of twisted reverse psychology at its finest.

 

[uberfayt]

To the players who are active rn, i.e. @digitaldude and @goodboy_lawlett , you guys are veterans, didn't you notice any abnormal behavior in some players, no matter how slight it is?
For example, I would've expected Gry, James or even Demon to be more active and pressuring, like in previous games... what do you think?

Also @Belserion , you've been awfully passive in D1...

Love how Panda's death has potentially "cleared" so many for whatever reasons.

How?

 

[Belserion]

Also @Belserion , you've been awfully passive in D1...

I'm always passive in day 1.

How?

It was sarcasm from persons saying "oh Panda is dead, then I can't be Mafia I would never kill Panda so early".

 

[digitaldude]

Change the name to day 2 lambu.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

To the players who are active rn, i.e. @digitaldude and @goodboy_lawlett , you guys are veterans, didn't you notice any abnormal behavior in some players, no matter how slight it is?
For example, I would've expected Gry, James or even Demon to be more active and pressuring, like in previous games... what do you think?

Also @Belserion , you've been awfully passive in D1...



How?

yeah uber something is defentely amiss here

 

[Asako]

Would you explain why?

I already explained holt, but for vand I just think he playing more like his town self than mafia, well we need to keep in mind that vand is a good player that could easily influence the game even when mafia, but I think when he mafia he more in the back than in the front (or he have a role like freeman ) but seeing his interaction with crescent etc, I think he most likely town.

For the distrust one desin with how he acts + the fact that he was the first one to join the bandwagon really early on
As for demon, just more like my feels, don't like how backgrounded he is.

 

[uberfayt]

It was sarcasm from persons saying "oh Panda is dead, then I can't be Mafia I would never kill Panda so early".

I actually did raise the question on that, still awaiting their reply. Also, @GrySun needs to say something on his alchemy target.

yeah uber something is defentely amiss here

Like what? a comment on the people I mentioned would be nice.

Be back in a few hours, this thread is almost dead rn....

 

[GrySun]

Lol at GrySun's ignorance of my activity in these games

What do you mean? I know your activity very well from previous games, hence my previous comment of not minding if you were lynched.

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Mind sharing who you used Alchemy on?

I used it on someone I distrusted, and since a kill is maybe missing I would want to hear from that person first, just to be sure.

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Honestly it can only confirm you to a certain degree since potentially a second killing party was blocked last night. Disappointed you didn’t mention that before you said “oh look, I am innocent.” And it would not discount there could be a BK redirecting an attack this game. Really this would confirm Lawl just as much as you since Lawl is Panda’s best friend. And think that it would cover a whole list of people tbh. Starting with you, me, Lawl but also with people who like playing with Panda so people Vandred (I don’t like how he switched to Takuan after saying he preferred Erin tho yesterday) and Demonspeed who don’t like to kill people they like playing with plus people like Pom who wouldn’t kill someone that you liked to play with. That narrows down the pool considerably if so. You should also tell what your target was considering what Panda was and the potential there.

I think there are a whole lot of lurkers who need to say something today. We always have them but we have way too many for this size of a game.

I don‘t think it clears as many as you said. Demon for example doesn‘t care, his team killed me night 1 before. He kills who is the best option. You I also don‘t think you‘d stop at Panda. Pom I doubt she’d persuade her team too much.

As for redirects and more killers sure, but those are super unlikely cases and happen very rarely for me to think about it first thing when I saw he died. Because I neither felt like someone else should‘ve died nor have expected more, since I am town

 

[Seraph]

The point you are all raising here and reacting to is the fact that Panda (specifically) died early. Care to explain why this fact in particular has caught your attention? In particular, Seraph, why would you expect Gry or Van instead?

That's pretty simple tbh. Gry is known to die rather early in most games he plays Town(At least from those i played with him) He dies between D1 and D3. It's a meme at this point but it's pretty much mostly because he is a good and dangerous player to the Mafias if left alone for too long.

Same goes for Van,just that he isn't usually dead between D1 and D3(Or at least not that i remember atm.) He is a really good player with sharp deductions and nice observations.

Panda was the least expected from me to die since in the games we've played he lived fairly long sometimes even longer than me,i'd like to say though that we should not give too much about certain players "never" going for Panda or anything of the sort. Like that we give them confidence and security that they are not in any way suspectable for now.

Having said that,i'm surprised that there wasn't as much activity as i anticipated after the first NP but i'll do my backreading for now anyway in case i missed out on some developments.

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Only one death and that was Panda. There would have probably been one more death without Ground Transmutations.

Assuming there is actually a killing TP involved that is.