Games Mafia Game 73 - The Black Card Initiative - Postgame - Missing Night Actions

[digitaldude]

vote gnut sorry fren but it appears you are a serial killer.

 

[Demonspeed]

And with desin being a red TB that kinda dooms gnut and Holt, while also confirming that nobody is confirmed, not even Asako who claimed first, since mafia can have the same roles and conditions.

Does it? I have never hosted, are Panda and lawl obliged to use the same color they used when they PMed him? Red in the thread is normal to tell us that he is Mafia.

 

[Hakuteiken]

Still hoping for the blue colors to be inconsequential here. A third party getting doomed this way feels bad for them.

 

[Vandred]

Does it? I have never hosted, are Panda and lawl obliged to use the same color they used when they PMed him? Red in the thread is normal to tell us that he is Mafia.

I believe the point is that we can imagine nobody was actually told their allegiance, only hinted at with the colour of their role. In the case of mafia, seeing other names besides yours (as the rule text implies) would take away any doubts, while it seems like a good guess that TPs didn't get the same luxury.

We wasted one lynch yesterday because said TPs would have to unlock their roles first, and if gnut's been honest about his condition he most likely has. So no reason to stall any longer if you ask me. It's gotta happen eventually and we all know it. We might even go for the good old double lynch.

 

[Erinyes]

Will cast my vote now, in case i cant come back before the end of the day. Might be changing dpending on any new infos.

Votekill Holt

 

[digitaldude]

You guys are saying its all random and its possibly two townies are dead?

 

[James Rye]

Recap so far

Please let me know if i missed something, ill fix it Asap.


Hints/claims

1. Gnut as Galatea
2. Erinyes as Irene
3. Demonspeed as Roxanne -
4. Holt as Miata
5. GrySun as Luciela -> both role and full potential suck
6. Seraph as Helen
7. CrescentJinx as Priscilla ->time bomb lynched on Day1
8. Son of Daws as Deneve
9. Lady PomPom as Miria -
10. MarmaladeSky as Rubel
11. Hardy as Rigaldo
12. Farfalla as Teresa
13. James Rye as Dietrich
14. Gryffindor as Flora
15. Tatasugoi as Alicia
16. Lambu as Tabitha
17. Zasz as Raki
18. Hakuteiken as Riful
19. DigitalDude as Agatha
20. Takuan as Easley -
21. Asako as Clare
22. Desin24 as Ophelia Time bomb, killed on N1
23. Vandred as Cassandra


N0 Actions

Digital targetted -> Asako got guilty
Erin -> Demon got innocent
Haku -> gry got guilty
Demon-boy -> seraph got guilty
Asa-chan -> Crescent got guilty
Gnut -> hardy got guilty
gry-> Vandred got guilty
farf-chan Gryff got guilty
Pompom-chan -> Asako - got guilty
Marma-chan -> zasz and got guilty
James -> Zasz and got innocent
Lambu-> james and got innocent
crescent -> SonofD got guilty
gryff-> desin got guilty
Taku-> seraph got guilty
Holt-> Crescent got innocent
van -> demon got guilty
zasz -> erin' got guilty
SoD-> Gnut got innocent
Desin -> Erin' got guilty
Seraph-> Farf got innocent



N1 Actions


Temp roles :

Defusers

Gnut
Erin'
Taku
Asako
Zasz
Farf-chan
gryff
holt


Time bombs

Haku
desin
Creccent-chan
Demon-boy
Hardy
Pompom-chan
Marma-chan

I did mention before that i was a defuser. It was on page 14.

You mean who investigated him on N0 it was gryff and he got guilty.

im doing a recap list asap im quite lost atm. lol

What color was the guilty from gryf? Might be important.

I wonder how Desin died. Killed by Serial Killer who due a townie lynch got their role or perhaps through 2nd Mafia and losing coin toss or maybe even due being defused for whatever reason. Though if defusing causes death then we would have a ton of deaths. Or maybe it is only if a townie defuser defuses a mafia timebomb. Did anybody target Desin last night to defuse him?

 

[Erinyes]

@James Rye fixed

I wonder how Desin died. Killed by Serial Killer who due a townie lynch got their role

Well i thought that 1st but assuming someone upgraded Sk I highly doubt he could use his role the same night he got the upgrade so he likely wont be able to use his role before N2 thats how i understand it. Also as @Hardy mentionned, i suspect that conditions for most significant roles are likely more difficult to reach.

 

[Farfalla]

lol, Desin, another mini Demon. -1 afker

I rly think we should all say our roles. With a red mafia dead, indicating that a TP could have killed him or that we might have another mafia in game, tracking the defusers is important cause they unlock their potential more easily and could have done it alrdy. This way we might go for Greg and Holt now and then we have little or nothing for the next day... And by then more scum defusers might be annoying killers...

Lemme say I rly don't think this was caused by Greg or Holt. I think they looked genuine on their surprise about being TP. So it doesn't seem possible to me that they had 2 actions on the same night (defusing, to unlock the potential, and killing after getting it). Unless they did decide to ask the hosts about their roles and found out they were odd TPs hiding in townie/mafia roles that could kill alrdy. Sounds stupid for 2 reasons: they would still defuse first to upgrade and kill later in the next phase (I imagine) and some TPs aren't killers, so it's weird for them to be informed of that. So I rly think this was the work of another mafia and I don't like the fact that some people are sitting on their roles while we might have, say, Janitor kills next...

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 4, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 4, 2019 ---

@Vandred @SonOfDaws @Tatasugoi @GrySun @digitaldude @Seraph TB or BD?

 

[James Rye]

@James Rye fixed



Well i thought that 1st but assuming someone upgraded Sk I highly doubt he could use his role the same night he got the upgrade so he likely wont be able to use his role before N2 thats how i understand it. Also as @Hardy mentionned, i suspect that conditions for most significant roles are likely more difficult to reach.

Yeah, but a SK is all Solo and his win condition is tough so I would assume that the hosts would give him an easy way to get his real role and day 1 townie lynch is really easy for that. I mean, for all we know, maybe the mafia is actually forbidden to use a kill action till they fulfill one of their mafia defuser or mafia timebomb conditions. If so it would make even more sense to have the SK get his role soon so that there are early night kills but due townies and mafias receiving their real roles later into the game they won't lose too many members as SK can kill only one person per night while the other groups catch up to him.

 

[Demonspeed]

Who didn't talk about his/her colors last day?

 

[James Rye]

Who didn't talk about his/her colors last day?

Quite some people I think. Maybe we should color our role claims and investigation night0 findings in the colors we mentioned. Like both of mine were green. And I did mention that before.

 

[Farfalla]

Yeah, but a SK is all Solo and his win condition is tough so I would assume that the hosts would give him an easy way to get his real role and day 1 townie lynch is really easy for that. I mean, for all we know, maybe the mafia is actually forbidden to use a kill action till they fulfill one of their mafia defuser or mafia timebomb conditions. If so it would make even more sense to have the SK get his role soon so that there are early night kills but due townies and mafias receiving their real roles later into the game they won't lose too many members as SK can kill only one person per night while the other groups catch up to him.

If we are all TB and BDs indeed, that got told so only on D1, scum TB or BDs would still need one night to unlock their things and be able to kill following that logic. Can't imagine why the hosts would allow the TPs to kill alrdy but not mafia.

@James Rye fixed



Well i thought that 1st but assuming someone upgraded Sk I highly doubt he could use his role the same night he got the upgrade so he likely wont be able to use his role before N2 thats how i understand it. Also as @Hardy mentionned, i suspect that conditions for most significant roles are likely more difficult to reach.

Hardy and DD are the odd ones so far. DD mentioned something about N3 while TBs said N5 and BDs aren't time bound.

 

[digitaldude]

If I am defused I have no role for the entire game are you dum dum!

 

[Farfalla]

... oh Lord why won't people read rules and PMs...

 

[Seraph]

I am a Defuser, Farfalla.

 

[Demonspeed]

When you guys reveal roles, reveal your FP conditions too.

 

[digitaldude]

When you guys reveal roles, reveal your FP conditions too.

I just did that 100 times, dont like this setup.

 

[Hardy]

Sorry I'm going back and forth reading posts. I'm trying to understand how the hell grace got killed, as if lynching two suicidal third parties and getting our abilities wasn't a great deal for us.

I reckon there are two mafia teams and that is how desin died. The (so far) two third parties have to unlock their killing ability (perhaps easily otw it's unbalanced as fuck against them) which is how only one person died.

 

[Asako]

While you all in your shenanigans, I wanted to say I just unlocked my full potential by defusing demon, cuz he said he didn't mind getting defused

The full potential is revelation of your main role + an other temporary role

That seem great when you hear it, before you know that both of my roles are passives..
I'm so confused
The fuck