Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Stivie]

Maybe it's not so related, but when was the last time a Jump manga is canceled with 23 chapters? I remember that Double Arts was canceled with the same amount.

Yes, Double arts.

 

[RafGL]

Question: I kind of want to confirm for myself that Saiyuki is ending, so is anybody willing to explain what the trick is with the MangaPlus IDs?

Since this has been asked a few times already, I'm gonna write a probably really long post in order to explain this completely, since it's already known.

Okay so, first thing: How does MANGA Plus upload its chapters? Basically each series has an ID, and then every single chapter uploaded in the website has its own ID, which can be found in the URL that appears while you're watching that series/chapter page.

And does this work like this for every single series? Yeah, and most of the times what they do is to reserve some of those ID's in order to upload chapters of a series that is already completed, like for example Bakuman (you can check this by going to Bakuman's page and you'll see that the first chapter starts with the ID 1000001 (https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000001) and it goes up by 1 every chapter that follows:

Spoiler: Bakuman

Chapter 2: https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000002
Chapter 3: https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000003
Chapter 4: https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000004
Etc.

So then, does this apply to weekly series? Yeah, but just saving 4 ID's and then they completely change the numbers, relocate the chapters and again save 4 ID's. This is basically how this week is gonna work:

One Piece: 1003654-1003657
The Promised Neverland: 1003658-1003661
Jujutsu Kaisen: 1003662-1003665
My Hero Academia: 1003666-1003669
Kimetsu no Yaiba: 1003670-1003673
Haikyu!!: 1003674-1003677
Black Clover: 1003678-1003681
We Never Learn: 1003682-1003685
Dr. Stone: 1003686-1003689
Act-Age: 1003690-1003693
Chainsaw Man: 1003694-1003697
The Last Saiyuki: 1003698-1003699
Yui Kamio: 1003700-1003703
Samurai 8: 1003704-1003707
Double Taisei: 1003708-1003711
Beast Children: 1003712-1003715
Tokyo Shinobi Squad: 1003716-1003719

Now question, why does Saiyuki only have 2 ID's? Basically because the series is not listed for more chapters after that. What I mean is, MANGA Plus saves 1 ID per Shonen Jump issue the series will appear on, so if they have 4 ID's for Yui Kamio, it means the series has appeared in this week's issue, #36/37, and hence will appear on Issue #38, #39 and #40. After that, it's completely unknown whether the series continues or not, that's not something we can calculate because when they relocate the series, they tend to use random ID's and leave huge spaces between every issue.

So, if any series has less than 4 ID's, does this mean the series is ending? Of course not. Series could be having a break, hiatus, or any other thing that could mess up its schedule and not appear in some issue. But of course, we can just guess the series its ending due to the overall knowledge we have about it.

And does this mean that Saiyuki could have an schedule like having a break on Issue #38 and #39 and then appear again on #40 and continue its serialization and even become the next One Piece? Yeah, hope should never be lost. But this is not happening, so whatever.

That should be everything. I hope this helped to understand how the whole system works.

 

[Jovan]

Noah's Notes last year.

Funny thing is that Noah's Notes also ended on Issue #38 of 2018! Just like Saiyuki will in Issue #38 of 2019,

 

[Aiwass_97]

Noah's Notes last year.

I just checked and apparently there were 22 chapters, only one-shot was added in the volumes

 

[Rain Spectre]

Funny thing is that Noah's Notes also ended on Issue #38 of 2018! Just like Saiyuki will in Issue #38 of 2019,

 

[Koni]

Confirmation that Saiyuki is ending. Too bad they forgot there is no "next week" lmao


Basically, every Jump series always has 4 IDs in current batch that continue from one another (like 1111,1112,1113,1114).
Saiyuki's this week chapter is https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003698 (ID in the link is 1003698) 1st ID
Saiyuki's next chapter and a final one is https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003699 (ID in the link 1003699) 2nd ID, chapter of course not up yet
And the ID (should have been 3rd Saiyuki ID but since it ended it is not) after that is Kamio Yui's this week chapter https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003670 (ID in the link 1003670)

I see, thank you so much! Though when I clicked on 1003670, I was redirected to Yaiba’s current chapter instead.

This trick really is useful! Shame about Saiyuki, though.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 4, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 4, 2019 ---

Since this has been asked a few times already, I'm gonna write a probably really long post in order to explain this completely, since it's already known.

Okay so, first thing: How does MANGA Plus upload its chapters? Basically each series has an ID, and then every single chapter uploaded in the website has its own ID, which can be found in the URL that appears while you're watching that series/chapter page.

And does this work like this for every single series? Yeah, and most of the times what they do is to reserve some of those ID's in order to upload chapters of a series that is already completed, like for example Bakuman (you can check this by going to Bakuman's page and you'll see that the first chapter starts with the ID 1000001 (https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000001) and it goes up by 1 every chapter that follows:

Spoiler: Bakuman

Chapter 2: https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000002
Chapter 3: https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000003
Chapter 4: https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000004
Etc.

So then, does this apply to weekly series? Yeah, but just saving 4 ID's and then they completely change the numbers, relocate the chapters and again save 4 ID's. This is basically how this week is gonna work:

One Piece 1003654-1003657
Neverland 1003658-1003661
Jujutsu 1003662-1003665
BnHA 1003666-1003669
Kimetsu 1003670-1003673
Haikyu!! 1003674-1003677
BlaClo 1003678-1003681
WNL 1003682-1003685
Stone 1003686-1003689
ActAge 1003690-1003693
CSM 1003694-1003697
Saiyuki 1003698-1003699
Yui Kamio 1003700-1003703
Samurai8 1003704-1003707
DTaisei 1003708-1003711
BChildren 1003712-1003715
TSS 1003716-1003719

Now question, why does Saiyuki only have 2 ID's? Basically because the series is not listed for more chapters after that. What I mean is, MANGA Plus saves 1 ID per Shonen Jump issue the series will appear on, so if they have 4 ID's for Yui Kamio, it means the series has appeared in this week's issue, #36/37, and hence will appear on Issue #38, #39 and #40. After that, it's completely unknown whether the series continues or not, that's not something we can calculate because when they relocate the series, they tend to use random ID's and leave huge spaces between every issue.

So, if any series has less than 4 ID's, does this mean the series is ending? Of course not. Series could be having a break, hiatus, or any other thing that could mess up its schedule and not appear in some issue. But of course, we can just guess the series its ending due to the overall knowledge we have about it.

And does this mean that Saiyuki could have an schedule like having a break on Issue #38 and #39 and then appear again on #40 and continue its serialization and even become the next One Piece? Yeah, hope should never be lost. But this is not happening, so whatever.

That should be everything. I hope this helped to understand how the whole system works.

Thank you as well! I didn’t see this until after I made my initial reply.

 

[RafGL]

I swear, the ID capture has been a really useful discovery. We're now able to spot series ending weeks in advance.

It would have been even better if I had found any way of knowing where chapters are being relocated, hence knowing its ID's in advance and spotting irregularities, but that was way too impossible for a human being and I gave up, way too much work, lol. I'll update the ID list someday so we can have further knowledge in M+'s structure.

 

[Jovan]

I see, thank you so much! Though when I clicked on 1003670, I was redirected to Yaiba’s current chapter instead.

This trick really is useful! Shame about Saiyuki, though.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 4, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 4, 2019 ---

Thank you as well! I didn’t see this until after I made my initial reply.

The link was wrong, https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003700 aka 1003700 is the correct ID (3699+1 is a 3700)! You are welcome.

 

[OniluapL]

Well, at least Saiyuki will get a somewhat satisfying ending. What a shame, though, hope the author comes back soon.

 

[TxxT]

Jujutsu Kaisen Vol. 1 (VIZ)

 

[OtterBrigade]

Confirmation that Saiyuki is ending. Too bad they forgot there is no "next week" lmao


Basically, every Jump series always has 4 IDs in current batch that continue from one another (like 1111,1112,1113,1114).
Saiyuki's this week chapter is https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003698 (ID in the link is 1003698) 1st ID
Saiyuki's next chapter and a final one is https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003699 (ID in the link 1003699) 2nd ID, chapter of course not up yet
And the ID (should have been 3rd Saiyuki ID but since it ended it is not) after that is Kamio Yui's this week chapter https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1003700 (ID in the link 1003700)

that bio says "unofficial" so isn't this just as much confirmation as the IDs? Probably run by someone who either posts/lurks here or happens to know the trick as well.

 

[RafGL]

that bio says "unofficial" so isn't this just as much confirmation as the IDs? Probably run by someone who either posts/lurks here or happens to know the trick as well.

Or it happens to be me. :P

 

[Rain Spectre]

that bio says "unofficial" so isn't this just as much confirmation as the IDs? Probably run by someone who either posts/lurks here or happens to know the trick as well.

It's run by RafGL, actually.

 

[Stivie]

that bio says "unofficial" so isn't this just as much confirmation as the IDs? Probably run by someone who either posts/lurks here or happens to know the trick as well.

I saw today's chapter and it really looks like it's ending.

 

[TxxT]

Jujutsu Kaisen Vol. 1 (VIZ)

I prefer the JBox logo by a long shot

 

[OtterBrigade]

Or it happens to be me. :P

It's run by RafGL, actually.

I don't see how that makes it anymore "confirmed" than the IDs did though.

 

[RafGL]

I don't see how that makes it anymore "confirmed" than the IDs did though.

Yeah, it's everything based on the ID's, nothing more.

 

[Jovan]

Jujutsu Kaisen Vol. 1 (VIZ)

I wondered if Viz would go for the ''Magic Battle (Sorcery Fight)" as a title translation, glad to see they didn't go for it.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

So Saigo no Saiyuki will really pull a "Kimi wa Shinryakuseyo", suddenly rising out of the bottom just to end in the next issue? lol

With Saiyuki ending on #38, there's no way we will not have new series starting on #39, Shonen Jump will have only 17 series running, i don't remember the magazine being with such a low number of series before.

 

[Aipom626]

So Saigo no Saiyuki will really pull a "Kimi wa Shinryakuseyo", suddenly rising out of the bottom just to end in the next issue? lol

With Saiyuki ending on #38, there's no way we will not have new series starting on #39, Shonen Jump will have only 17 series running, i don't remember the magazine being with such a low number of series before.

Called the Invade You thing. It's like a sudden reminder for readers that the series exists before it suddenly ends the next issue. The real question will be if it sinks back down to the bottom next issue or if it'll manage to be above something in its final issue, maybe Beast Children at least.