Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Rain Spectre]

Isnt the manga close to ending?

It's...unclear. Frankly, it could go either way at this point, there's evidence for both arguments.

 

[LuckyJim]

Isnt the manga close to ending?

It's been "close to ending" for a while now. At this point, it's pretty clear that the series could go for as long as Miura/Shueisha want it too, without much issue, and with so many series ending or close to it, they might decide to hold on to it just a bit longer.

 

[RafGL]

Ouch, that is a nasty decline. What could've caused the shift, I wonder.

What decline...? It's been 3 days since every volume has been out, there's obviously gonna be lower numbers, and Yuuna's has always been pretty irregular so, why should we care?

EDIT: Found Mangany's chart. Eh, it's not like I'm an expert in maths but, isn't it just doing fine? Or at least how it usually does knowing it's been just 3 days?

 

[ruggia]

KnY's anime adaptation is vastly superior to Toriko's. Funny how much a great adaptation helps sales.

Key factor is capturing the female audience. It's been the driving factor of most explosive successes in recent years.

 

[Halloween]

I remember early on when Yuuna was an early hit that outsold KnY. Then, miraculously, KnY kept increasing it's sales by like 10k volume over volume.

KnY really is a feel-good underdog story.

 

[Paze]

How much did the last few volumes of Toriko sell?

 

[Ctkk]

Oricon Rankings

Weekly 29/7 - 4/8

201910 *201910 My Hero Academia #24
190803 *190803 The Promised Neverland #15
111231 *111231 Rurouni Kenshin Hokkaido Arc #03
110549 *110549 Gintama #77
*90557 **90557 Dragon Ball Super #10
*49616 *119215 Kimetsu no Yaiba Fanbook
*48098 **48098 World's End Harem #09
*42637 1966556 One Piece #93
*29611 **29611 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings #17
*27054 *384400 Kimetsu no Yaiba #16
*25993 **25993 World's End Harem Fantasia #03
*25075 **25075 Chainsaw Man #03
*21901 *126037 SPY×FAMILY #01
*20013 **20013 Gintama Fanbook
*15469 *420574 Kimetsu no Yaiba #06
*14983 *426784 Kimetsu no Yaiba #05
*14784 *402450 Kimetsu no Yaiba #07
*14553 *398481 Kimetsu no Yaiba #08
*14493 *459180 Kimetsu no Yaiba #01
*14215 *390573 Kimetsu no Yaiba #09
*14135 *389932 Kimetsu no Yaiba #10
*13803 *375356 Kimetsu no Yaiba #15
*13801 *392827 Kimetsu no Yaiba #11
*13637 *440799 Kimetsu no Yaiba #02
*13634 *386449 Kimetsu no Yaiba #12
*13355 *433739 Kimetsu no Yaiba #03
-
*13325 *382480 Kimetsu no Yaiba #13
*13232 *369585 Kimetsu no Yaiba #14
*13153 *429365 Kimetsu no Yaiba #04
*10026 **10026 Aharen-san wa Hakarenai #07
**9743 *658266 The Promised Neverland #14

Monthly 1/7 - 4/8

1966556 1966556 One Piece #93
*384400 *384400 Kimetsu no Yaiba #16
*213502 *213502 Black Clover #21
*201910 *201910 My Hero Academia #24
*190803 *190803 The Promised Neverland #15
*169575 *169575 Jujutsu Kaisen #06
*126037 *126037 SPY×FAMILY #01
*119215 *119215 Kimetsu no Yaiba Fanbook
*117666 *117666 act-age #07
*111231 *111231 Rurouni Kenshin Hokkaido Arc #03
*110549 *110549 Gintama #77
*106828 *106828 Dr. Stone #11
**90557 **90557 Dragon Ball Super #10

I know it's just 3 days, but those numbers are kinda low for TPN and MHA, aren't they? MHA is on par with Volume 17(also 3 days), which was before the boost from S3, and TPN is on par with Volume 12(again 3 days), when the anime boost was just starting.

With HeroAca it's more or less expected because it's been in a downward trend for a while, but Neverland has been raising non-stop. I guess we'll see how strong their legs are (plus Obon).

 

[Rain Spectre]

Key factor is capturing the female audience. It's been the driving factor of most explosive successes in recent years.

And this, people, is in all likelihood the real reason Stone hasn't been doing as well as it should've. Nurayama.

 

[Halloween]

I took a screenshot of the last poll, with all the voters in each category.

Which poll would you guys like next?

 

[RafGL]

I know it's just 3 days, but those numbers are kinda low for TPN and MHA, aren't they? MHA is on par with Volume 17(also 3 days), which was before the boost from S3, and TPN is on par with Volume 12(again 3 days), when the anime boost was just starting.

With HeroAca it's more or less expected because it's been in a downward trend for a while, but Neverland has been raising non-stop. I guess we'll see how strong their legs are (plus Obon).

Rather than low numbers, I'd say they are meeting some peak in their growth and in Neverland's case, it must probably be that. I mean, Neverland Vol. 14 was 6 days and got around 375k copies first week iirc, which, if we divide by two, that's around 187.5k each 3 days. I know, this doesn't work like that, but with 3 days its numbers are not that far from the usual. Are they kinda low maybe thinking in its expected infinite growth? Yeah, probably, but I don't see them as failing or anything like that.

 

[TyVip]

Yuuna has the same print copies every volume now (250,000 each) for the past 2 years now. If the number decreases so does the print number, but it doesn't.

 

[Aeneas]

How much did the last few volumes of Toriko sell?

Looked through the old thread to get first week sales. And note, of course, that the number of days wasn't the same for each.

39 - 106,180
40 - 110,137
41 - 135,390
42 - 81,552
43 - 87,414

 

[Jovan]

What decline...? It's been 3 days since every volume has been out, there's obviously gonna be lower numbers, and Yuuna's has always been pretty irregular so, why should we care?

This says more than enough, look at the bolded part. 1 day difference is not really going to bridge 18k so well and I doubt it would have earned random extra 10k for the 4th day now. Vol 17 sales are surprisingly poor early on at least.

│*48865 (4)│*70437│------│------│------┃*,*70,437 (*11)┃2019/04｜ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん 15
│*29611 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*29,611 (**3)┃2019/08｜ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん 17

 

[Koni]

This says more than enough, look at the bolded part. 1 day difference is not really going to bridge 18k so well and I doubt it would have earned random extra 10k for the 4th day now. Vol 17 sales are surprisingly poor early on at least.

│*48865 (4)│*70437│------│------│------┃*,*70,437 (*11)┃2019/04｜ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん 15
│*29611 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*29,611 (**3)┃2019/08｜ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん 17

Also, if I recall correctly, I think past Yuuna volumes have had limited editions.

 

[Jovan]

Also, if I recall correctly, I think past Yuuna volumes have had limited editions.

Sadly, unlike Kodansha's website (ex. Domestic GF), Shueisha doesn't offer info on limited editions.

 

[Tamil]

How much did the last few volumes of Toriko sell?

41 - 208,209
42 - 239,555
43 - 262,878

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 7, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 7, 2019 ---

Key factor is capturing the female audience. It's been the driving factor of most explosive successes in recent years.

The fujo push

 

[James Rye]

I took a screenshot of the last poll, with all the voters in each category.

Which poll would you guys like next?

So Samurai 8 gotta beat 126037 in sales after one month? When does its first Volume come out again?

Hm, I dunno. Maybe which one of the new Series will drop out next?^^

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I took a screenshot of the last poll, with all the voters in each category.

Which poll would you guys like next?

How many series will start in the next round?

-1 or 2
-3
-4 or more

 

[Tamil]

So Samurai 8 gotta beat 126037 in sales after one month? When does its first Volume come out again?

Hm, I dunno. Maybe which one of the new Series will drop out next?^^

Oct

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Apart from that, I believe that Kimetsu is simply more pleasing to the public than Toriko.

Toriko with 3 volumes was already doing what Kimetsu didn't with more than 10 volumes, it's quite easy to be more "pleasing" when you have a beautiful anime made by Ufotable without censorship instead of one with mediocre animation and lots of censorship by Toei.