Theory Projected Attacks Aren't Wind-Pressure Based & Why Zoro can Perform Asura Explained

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Introduction
Odd title, sounds ridiculous and the idea flying attacks are not wind-based sounds absurd given that this is a common trope in series where superhuman strength is a thing - I agree with that sentiment.

However, I have reason to believe this, and if you're open to new ideas that are evidence based and not pure speculation, then stick around, otherwise, no problem, the idea on its face sounds silly and attention-whoring.

This will include information that is not very well known in the series regarding Swordsmanship and new detail regarding Zoro's attacks.

Without further ado...



Context: Sandman_AP Retranslation & Chapter 939
Sandman_AP: In OP chapter 939, it’s revealed that Hyou was known as the Mighty Blade (豪剣). Actually this Mighty Blade term was already used in chapter 23, 195 and 467 . Zoro and Ryuma are classified as Mighty Blade type. Sadly, there is a translation inconsistency in official Viz version 😂
Thanks to Sandman_AP and Artur, they both elaborate on the significance of the word. They're both pointing out that the phrase "way of the sword" as shown in chapter 195 and "powerful fighter" as used in chapter 467 should be replaced with "Mighty Blade" which is the translation of the Japanese word known as Goken which is used in Chapter 939.



What Does It Mean To Be a Mighty Blade(Goken)
The earliest recording of Mighty Blade (Goken) is recorded in Chapter 195. Zoro is talking about reaching the true way of the Sword/Mighty Blade however one wants to phrase it.

The Narrative
Zoro is faced with a colossal challenge. A new foe against whom his every swing, though powerful, is made redundant by the passive nature of the enemy's steely body. It doesn't take long before he's on the receiving end and we see Zoro buried under a pile of rubble.

Not only is his confidence buried, but his Swordsmanship has just hit a wall194 . He questions his swordsmanship; he trains harder than anyone; more dedicated than anyone and strives higher than anyone. These are surely recipes for success, but still, Zoro has realised he's lacking something.

...Master Fails to Cut Paper but Talks of Cutting Steel??
Zoro buried in rubble and almost being lulled into unconsciousness reconnects with a distant memory where he ecstatically requests the truth as to whether there are Swordsmen capable of cutting steel.

This scene holds so much significance. What we see here is pretty outstanding. On the surface, it seems like a blunder, and an embarrassing one at that. Zoro asks his master of men that can cut steel, and his master awkwardly responds by attempting to cut paper; the paper is still intact.

How is failure to cut paper in any way relating to cutting steel? In reality, his mentor was actually letting him in on to the answer and goal he strove towards.

A Blade that Cuts all that it Touches Isn't Really a Sword
In his state of stupor, a memory of Master Koshiro patiently chastising him surfaces stating what seems to be a riddle which is a paradoxical conundrum that for the life of him, he cannot decipher. Koshiro states:

  • There are Swordsmen in this world who able to NOT cut anything.
  • These Swordsmen also have the ability to cut through steel.
  • A blade that just injures all it touches isn't really a sword.
It really does come across as contradictory to cut and not cut, it sounds like the ramblings of a mad man.

What Koshiro is Saying & Doing?
In saying this, Koshiro also informs Zoro on the Pinnacle of Swordsmanship lies in being able to protect what one wishes and cut what one wishes. He shameless (in appearance) goes on to cut paper and fails to cut it.

Koshiro was actually giving Zoro the keys to the kingdom and the answer he wanted, but Zoro being too young was unable to comprehend his master was being literal.

His master was letting Zoro know that the Pinnacle of Swordsmanship is the ability to hit anything with a blade and choose whether it cuts or doesn't.

  • By hitting paper with a sharp blade and failing to cut it, it proves that he (Master Koshiro) has reached this Pinnacle of Swordsmanship and subsequently has the power to convey his will into his blade; a blade that cannot cut anything but can also cut anything (steel in this case)
Emulating the Master
We see he used his blade to slash at a palm leaf, and what happened? It didn't get cut - one would think that a blade that sharp would cut the palm leaf and more so if it were with Haki; this is symbolic in literal terms as to what master Koshiro did in Zoro's youth in cutting that piece of paper attempt194 .

He then goes on to slice a rock which is far more durable and sturdier than the palm leaf, yet, he cuts it like a hot knife through butter.

He's replicated the exact feat his master did by failing to cut paper against the leaf. He's learnt to convey his will into his blade and has reached the Pinnacle of Swordsmanship which is why he's so confident in using one Sword to cut down Mr.1.

Conveyed
At this point, we see he now understands what his master was saying; the ability to not cut is the power to cut steel194&195 . It's exactly what his master was trying to teach him, a lesson in learning how to convey one's will into the blade which is why he called it a blade that can cut, but not cut at the same time; it's mastery over one's blade.

Furthermore, on recognising this power, he begins to master the art of slipping into this state in order to utilise this power like Koshiro who can use this ability at will which is shown by his failure (or success rather) to not cut the paper despite hitting it implying it's something Swordsman of high calibre should be capable of utilising.

BOAT (Breath Of All Things)/Goken Principle
What exactly is it? If we look at the panel in the above subtitle, it tells us that he's experienced this "breath of all things" state saying it's like the boundary between life and death. His senses got heightened when he's at death's door and the main focus is on the part where he says.. "my blade understands my will" which is referring to his new-found ability to project his intentions into his blade.

I think the point being made is that in order to control and convey one's will to their blade, one need to be able to get into this "breath of all things" state, or it's impossible. Whilst in this state, his senses are sharpened, his instincts are elevated , he becomes hypersensitive and aware of his surroundings which astonishes his opponent and the power and technique of his attacks are enhanced as a result.

By the end of his bout with Mr.1, Zoro begins to train to slip into this state to draw on the power anytime he wills it213.

Zoro Trains To Master Goken Principle/BOAT
As Zoro says, the ability to convey his will into his blade requires an extreme level of concentration that's so powerful he was able to perceive where the rocks would fall, where his Sword was and such which startled Mr.1195.

Ryuma a Goken pre-skip, but Zoro too?
As even Artur realised THANKS TO SANDMAN_AP, Goken is not Haki, but a Sword Technique for conveying wills into blades/weapons. As the image states, Ryuma is considered to be a Goken as stated by Brook, but do you know who else was called a Goken like Ryuma? Zoro, but why was he called a Goken like Ryuma?

In the scene where Sandman_AP translates what was lost, Ryuma was called a Goken/Mighty Blade467. This is the full scene, it calls Ryuma a Goken, but then, Zoro is called a Goken too467.

Why are both called Goken Types 467? Because both were capable of projecting their slashes, or rather, conveying their wills into their blades given that wills is the source of the power of a Goken. A Goken is more or less someone capable of conveying their will into their blade and this ability allows one to project attacks from distances.

Zoro's Next Use of the Goken Principle/BOAT after Alabasta: Skypiea
Zoro has learnt to convey his will into his blade through intense concentration. He conveys into his blade that it's a Cannon that fires blasts. Thus why he's able to convey to his Sword that it's a Cannon, and thus the first flying slash is executed.

It makes sense that Zoro has the mantra like he's psyching himself up like with the weird utterance of his Sword being like a Canon and most likely to augment whatever strength of will he's harnessing to focus and perform said technique.



Source of Asura and Similar Powers?
When Zoro first performed Asura, Kaku attributed Asura to Sheer Willpower; the fact the will is referenced here leads one to assuming Asura is something developed through his talent as Goken and conveying his will.

Not only do we have instances where Zoro appears to have transformed to a demon, he's also able to perform attacks where he appears bestial where he takes on the form of a Gorillar or Cheetah.



Zoro's Flying Attack Names Translated to English
If you go to the Wikia and find the translation of Zoro's flying attacks, I believe they all end with the word Cannon. He tends to chant these mantras like he's psyching himself up that his Sword is a Cannon, but it seems to just be conveying his will into his blade with these mantras.

  • Hyakuhachi Pound Ho (百八煩悩ポンド鳳 Hyakuhachi Pondo Hō?, kanji meaning "Feng of 108 Kleshas"; furigana meaning "108 Pound Phoenix/Cannon")
  • Senhachiju Pound Ho (千八十煩悩ポンド鳳 Senhachijū Pondo Hō?, literally meaning "1080 Pound Cannon")
  • Kokujo: O Tatsumaki (黒縄・大龍巻 Kokujō: Ō Tatsu Maki?, literally meaning "Kalasutra: Great Dragon Twister")
The Animal and Entity based Attacks are Kaku said are also a result of conveying his will:



Conclusion
Anyone who read this far, thanks. This is just my opinion, could well be wrong, but I'm certain given that I think I have more than sufficient evidence for this stance.

A Goken is a master swordsman, someone that is able to convey their wills into their blades and their swordsmanship which expresses itself as a tremendous form of power.

Flying Attacks and Zoro's ability to project entities like the auras and Asura are all based on his ability to convey his will through conveying his will (BOAT) as a Goken (Master Swordsman).

I think this is also the case for other Swordsmen, but I guess Zoro's pretty exceptional and would expect other formidable Swordsmen to have similar skill.



In retrospect of this information, this scene becomes pretty humorous🤣
 
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You are right. The names for Zoro's flying sword slashes all have a Buddhist theme, that's why Zoro speaks very gibberish lines when using it vs Aum. If I recall correctly it was something with sins one has to shoulder in life or something, doesn't actually matter what. Important is that Zoro spoke of metaphorical concepts and didn't say "Look ma muscles make the air cut"

On the other hand I still think it's air what cuts you, air infused with will or something like that. Rankyaku is an air slash going by the name, and Kaku treats Rankyaku like a sword attack.

I mean sending a cut through the air is impossible in reality, so there has to be a supernatural component to it.
 

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I think it's possible to cut with the air, I'd at this point say attacks can be projected in 2 ways: One way is through BOAT and the other is with Rankyaku which is based on physical strength and technique.
 

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Flying slashes are not a projection of will. It's a trope to have swords that can cut from far distance in order to add intensity. We see that even with physicals attacks, such as when Vergo swinged his bamboo and hit the walls nearby.



It's not correct to say they are cutting air because they are not air benders. It's more akin to a shock wave, pure energy.

When Zoro is using Asura, I thinki he simple moves his body in a way that makes it seems he has multiple heads/arms? It's not the only technique like that we have seen in the series.

 

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Flying slashes are not a projection of will. It's a trope to have swords that can cut from far distance in order to add intensity. We see that even with physicals attacks, such as when Vergo swinged his bamboo and hit the walls nearby.
That's why I stated in the beginning of this post, it's a popular trope.

Thing I may not have conveyed well maybe because I didn't articulate perfectly given that it's a huge post (which I intend to refine overtime) trying to connect multiple ideas is that:
  1. Ryuma was called a Goken for doing 1 thing, and that's for performing a Projected attack.
  2. The one time Goken was mentioned or the first time it was mentioned was when relating to conveying a will into an attack to cut or not cut.
  3. Ryuma didn't cut anything, he projected attack meaning that projecting attacks as a Swordsman is something that can be performed with Goken (will conveying),
  4. More so, the fact that Zoro had a mantra saying his Sword will become a Cannon gives the impression he's conveying his will into his blade.

So, yes, while it's a trope in anime/manga that sword attacks can fly in the air because of superhuman strength and air pressure, One Piece more or less states that Goken or conveying will emulates the same thing without air pressure.

Unless you can explain why else Ryuma would be called a Goken, you can't claim that Goken has nothing to do with projecting attacks. That's just an objective fact.

We see that even with physicals attacks, such as when Vergo swinged his bamboo and hit the walls nearby.

This is not true here. What actually happened here is Vergo hit Smoker and then Smoker hit the wall. Here are the panels in colour to make it clearer.



He never hit the walls just from the pressure of his swing.

It's not correct to say they are cutting air because they are not air benders. It's more akin to a shock wave, pure energy.
I never said they were cutting the air. What I said is below in quote.

Odd title, sounds ridiculous and the idea flying attacks are not wind-based sounds absurd given that this is a common trope in series where superhuman strength is a thing - I agree with that sentiment.
I said flying attacks and "wind-based" implying attacks are based on wind pressure or similar ideas.

When Zoro is using Asura, I thinki he simple moves his body in a way that makes it seems he has multiple heads/arms? It's not the only technique like that we have seen in the series.
What you think is one thing, what the Manga says is another thing.

This is what the Manga said:



It says through Sheer Will.

As long as you can prove it was through some weird movement, sure - but there is no weird movement to be seen, he's actually still as far as the Manga and Anime show - until the, the evidence we have is it's through will power.

More so since the we've been shown that will can have supernatural effects in One Piece regarding Swordsmanship such as:
  1. A sharp sword not cutting paper which makes no physical sense, therefore, it's a supernatural effect.
  2. Projecting of attacks.
No reason why will cannot be involved in something as weird as Asura especially since the will/spirit have been said to be the cause of it.
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When Zoro is using Asura, I thinki he simple moves his body in a way that makes it seems he has multiple heads/arms? It's not the only technique like that we have seen in the series.
Completely different.

First time Luffy reproduced multiple limbs, we were told it was through speed, not sheer will or some spirit.

Zoro's is not said to be related to speedy movement.
 

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Only thing left is for boat and Will to be confirmed as Haki and my theory has been right the entire time. :toc
Asura, while it can be haki as well, is unique to Zoro and could be something else since no one else made anything similar.
 

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Only thing left is for boat and Will to be confirmed as Haki
That can be easily refuted.

Do you know what Ryuma was when Brook and Zoro encountered him? A Zombie.



Do you recall what Ryuma was called by Brook? A Goken Type Swordsman (Mighty Blade).

If we take what Sandman_AP translated here and edit it into the actual Manga, this is what we get:



Brook: So he can project his slashes too? ...He must have been a Mighty Blade (Goken Type). ...It just may be that those 2 are the same kind of Swordsmen.

Goken refers to a type of Swordsman. A rank of Swordsmanship.

The emphasis is on slash projecting which is why he's said to be a Goken.

A Zombie definitely cannot perform Haki, nor can Zoro. So, Goken couldn't be Haki as Goken is the ability to perform BOAT.

Even Brook, nothing indicates he even knew about Haki given that he had no idea why he was unable to hit Kizaru. He however knew of Goken. If Goken was Haki, he'd have known that Haki could cut Logias up and why he was unable to cut up Kizaru at Sabaody.

BOAT is also definitely not Haki either, it's the ability to convey wills into weapons. The Manga has already defined it back in chapter 195. The ability to cut and not cut is more or less the ability to convey wills and that's not Haki.

Chapter 597 already defined Armament Haki as the power to touch Logia and harden things; the power to know the future and sense auras and also the power to intimidate. Not the power to convey wills.

If a Zombie can be said to be a Goken type, then Goken most certainly cannot be Haki. If Goken was Haki, Zoro would have been destroyed by Ryuma at Thriller Bark.
 

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This is not true here. What actually happened here is Vergo hit Smoker and then Smoker hit the wall. Here are the panels in colour to make it clearer.
I don't see how this has anything to do with Vergo hitting Smoker? There's also some movement related to Vergo's bamboo:



But this is just an example. There are other cases of blunt attacks being "projected" such as Elizabello's King Punch, or Kaido swinging his kanabo from the island into the ocean, etc.
 

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I don't see how this has anything to do with Vergo hitting Smoker? There's also some movement related to Vergo's bamboo:



But this is just an example. There are other cases of blunt attacks being "projected" such as Elizabello's King Punch, or Kaido swinging his kanabo from the island into the ocean, etc.
I was wrong about Smoker hitting the wall.

There are other cases of blunt attacks being "projected" such as Elizabello's King Punch, or Kaido swinging his kanabo from the island into the ocean, etc.
Never said Attacks can only be projected in 1 way.

Just said Projected Attacks can also related to being a Goken who have the ability to convey their wills. In Zoro and Ryuma's case, it's because of this based on the evidence.

Like I said, unless you can prove Ryuma wasn't called a Goken for performing a projected attack, you can't disprove my point since Brook explicitly stated that the reason he deems him a Goken is because he projected his attack. And Goken back in chapter 195 is related to conveying wills through the BOAT technique.

This is also regarding Swordsmanship.
 
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That can be easily refuted.

Do you know what Ryuma was when Brook and Zoro encountered him? A Zombie.



Do you recall what Ryuma was called by Brook? A Goken Type Swordsman (Mighty Blade).

If we take what Sandman_AP translated here and edit it into the actual Manga, this is what we get:



Brook: So he can project his slashes too? ...He must have been a Mighty Blade (Goken Type). ...It just may be that those 2 are the same kind of Swordsmen.

Goken refers to a type of Swordsman. A rank of Swordsmanship.

The emphasis is on slash projecting which is why he's said to be a Goken.

A Zombie definitely cannot perform Haki, nor can Zoro. So, Goken couldn't be Haki as Goken is the ability to perform BOAT.

Even Brook, nothing indicates he even knew about Haki given that he had no idea why he was unable to hit Kizaru. He however knew of Goken. If Goken was Haki, he'd have known that Haki could cut Logias up and why he was unable to cut up Kizaru at Sabaody.

BOAT is also definitely not Haki either, it's the ability to convey wills into weapons. The Manga has already defined it back in chapter 195. The ability to cut and not cut is more or less the ability to convey wills and that's not Haki.

Chapter 597 already defined Armament Haki as the power to touch Logia and harden things; the power to know the future and sense auras and also the power to intimidate. Not the power to convey wills.

If a Zombie can be said to be a Goken type, then Goken most certainly cannot be Haki. If Goken was Haki, Zoro would have been destroyed by Ryuma at Thriller Bark.
You are complicating it too much, for no reason.
If projected slashes are the energy that comes from the body and is flowing into swords and also released in a flying slash it is all about Haki.
Mighty blade could signify swordsmen who are capable of that exact Haki flow, if flying slashes are haki releases.
Barehanded swordsmen release Haki in a blast(as seen from Rayleigh, Sentomaru...) but how is that same release looking for swordsmen through their swords? It could easily be in form of flying slashes...
Everything revolves around Haki, one form or another, one or another advanced branch of Haki. There is no reason why all those things couldnt be Haki.
Asura is the only thing I am unsure of but it could be an advanced form CoA, not the one Luffy is learning atm but something beyond that.
 

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You are complicating it too much, for no reason.
That's not the proof of anything. You finding something complicated is you finding it complicated. Nothing more.

If projected slashes are the energy that comes from the body and is flowing into swords and also released in a flying slash it is all about Haki.
Nope, because it was never stated to be Haki.

It's not even stated to be energy that comes from the body, it's just said to be the Sword listening to the will of the user. Not the user using the Sword as a medium.

Mighty blade could signify swordsmen who are capable of that exact Haki flow, if flying slashes are haki releases.
Wrong, given that Zoro used it and a Zombie used it, it's not Haki. It's also not stated to be Haki. Mighty Blade also isn;t a flow of Haki, it's conveying will. Huge difference between conveying a a will to stop a sword from cutting and huge difference to make Haki flow.

Barehanded swordsmen release Haki in a blast(as seen from Rayleigh, Sentomaru...) but how is that same release looking for swordsmen through their swords? It could easily be in form of flying slashes...
Can't compare how Haki works to how a Sword Works.

Haki is an aura that can be moved through BOAT, it's not blasted at the opponent, the aura is merely concentrated on their palm and thickened.

BOAT also makes a Sword more powerful, Swords don't have auras like Haki, therefore BOAT works differently on them,

Flying slashes and manipulation of Haki are completely different things.

What you're doing is like comparing a gun shooting to how a scissors works.

Everything revolves around Haki, one form or another, one or another advanced branch of Haki. There is no reason why all those things couldnt be Haki.
Nope, not true. Your headcanon. Not everything is Haki based.

Asura is the only thing I am unsure of but it could be an advanced form CoA, not the one Luffy is learning atm but something beyond that.
Again, your headcanon.

Simply stated to be the expression of Zoro's Will as Kaku said.
 

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That's not the proof of anything. You finding something complicated is you finding it complicated. Nothing more.



Nope, because it was never stated to be Haki.

It's not even stated to be energy that comes from the body, it's just said to be the Sword listening to the will of the user. Not the user using the Sword as a medium.



Wrong, given that Zoro used it and a Zombie used it, it's not Haki. It's also not stated to be Haki. Mighty Blade also isn;t a flow of Haki, it's conveying will. Huge difference between conveying a a will to stop a sword from cutting and huge difference to make Haki flow.



Can't compare how Haki works to how a Sword Works.

Haki is an aura that can be moved through BOAT, it's not blasted at the opponent, the aura is merely concentrated on their palm and thickened.

BOAT also makes a Sword more powerful, Swords don't have auras like Haki, therefore BOAT works differently on them,

Flying slashes and manipulation of Haki are completely different things.

What you're doing is like comparing a gun shooting to how a scissors works.



Nope, not true. Your headcanon. Not everything is Haki based.



Again, your headcanon.

Simply stated to be the expression of Zoro's Will as Kaku said.
Simplicity is key, remember that.
Yes, it is my headcanon, no reason why it couldn't be true.
 

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Simplicity is key, remember that.
Simplicity is not forced, it's either simple or not.

Simplicity is subjective. Things don't choose to be complex. If something is complex to you, then that's you. What is complex to you might be simple for others.

Would be like going to a Quantum Physics study and saying simplicity is key. Makes no sense.

How a thing works is not determined by simplicity, it's determined by how it works.

Yes, it is my headcanon, no reason why it couldn't be true.
Yeah, you're entitled to headcanons, just doesn't make it true because there's no evidence to support it. Could have the headcanon that Zoro has 15 kids.
 

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Simplicity is not forced, it's either simple or not.
Simplicity is subjective. Things don't choose to be complex. If something is complex to you, then that's you. What is complex to you might be simple for others.
Would be like going to a Quantum Physics study and saying simplicity is key. Makes no sense.
How a thing works is not determined by simplicity, it's determined by how it works.
Simplicity is key and you write an irrelevant paragraph about whether it is complex to me or not, which was never my point lol.
There is no reason for Oda to juggle 10 different concepts when it can all be tied to Haki. Will and Boat included.
Yeah, you're entitled to headcanons, just doesn't make it true because there's no evidence to support it. Could have the headcanon that Zoro has 15 kids.
There is no evidence which kills my headcanon story either.
 

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Simplicity is key and you write an irrelevant paragraph about whether it is complex to me or not, which was never my point lol.
It was a pointless statement and meaningless.

There is no reason for Oda to juggle 10 different concepts when it can all be tied to Haki. Will and Boat included.
Nope, he's not juggling 10 concepts, but 2, not that difficult to grasp.

If you find it complex, that's your problem.

There is no evidence which kills my headcanon story either.
Still no different to a dumb head-canon suggesting that Zoro has 15 wives. No evidence to prove it or disprove it. Doesn't make it a valued headcanon.
 

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Nope, he's not juggling 10 concepts, but 2, not that difficult to grasp.
If you find it complex, that's your problem.
No, I dont find it complex...
Haki, BOAT, Will, Goken, Asura, several other things which could be added. That's not two concepts, it is more while it could all be just one.
Still no different to a dumb head-canon suggesting that Zoro has 15 wives. No evidence to prove it or disprove it. Doesn't make it a valued headcanon.
Well, whether it is dumb or not it will be shown with time and considering we are in Wano, it shouldn't take too long.
There isn't a single error in my theory so far but whether it is so or not, remains to be seen.
 

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I think it's possible to cut with the air, I'd at this point say attacks can be projected in 2 ways: One way is through BOAT and the other is with Rankyaku which is based on physical strength and technique.
I rather think it is a combination of both.
Rokushiki seems to be based on Asian martial arts, I don't know which specifically, but especially Tekkai is tropey af. Asian martial arts all include some kind of philosophy that is very similar to Zoro's Bushido.

You should include the Giants flying attacks (and Big Mom's version of it). Dorry and Broggy both recall their pride as Warriors of Elbaf before performing them, the attack name also relates to that.

Furthermore, I think that all the superpowers are connected in some way, we just don't now how yet.
 

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Wow. Breath of All Things, huh. First thing I thought of this was Kimetsu no Yaiba's Sword Breath styles. Oda! Making the most powerful sword breathing style over a decade before KnY even existed! As expected of him!
 

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No, I dont find it complex...
You must find it complex as you spoke about complexity regarding the matter. Contradicting yourself now.

Haki, BOAT, Will, Goken, Asura, several other things which could be added. That's not two concepts, it is more while it could all be just one.
Nope, it's not.

Seems you don't quite understand Goken and BOAT are more or less the same thing. Only a Goken can perform BOAT.

Projected attacks Zoro and Ryuma perform is simply based on BOAT which Gokens can perform. Asura is also implied to be based on Goken.

No proof it's Haki, baseless and evidence-less point.

There isn't a single error in my theory so far but whether it is so or not, remains to be seen.
Already is error with it with the fact there's no evidence.

Headcanon is just synonymous with saying you wish something were the case if you can't provide evidence for it.

It can't even be considered a credible theory given that there's no evidence. It's just imagination. No different to theorising that Nami has Haki, and then claiming that since we've not seen her perform Haki or perform Haki, there's no error in said theory. That's the definition of a bad theory as it's a baseless claim. If anything, it's more of a wild guess (close to wishing) than a theory.
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I rather think it is a combination of both.
Rokushiki seems to be based on Asian martial arts, I don't know which specifically, but especially Tekkai is tropey af. Asian martial arts all include some kind of philosophy that is very similar to Zoro's Bushido.

You should include the Giants flying attacks (and Big Mom's version of it). Dorry and Broggy both recall their pride as Warriors of Elbaf before performing them, the attack name also relates to that.

Furthermore, I think that all the superpowers are connected in some way, we just don't now how yet.
I'm only speaking from evidence, not from what I think or feel which is how evidence theories are carried out.

So far, the evidence says BOAT is how it's performed. Not Both.

You may feel it's both, but until one can provide evidence, then at this point, it doesn't really matter what we feel as feeling is subjective, not objective and unreliable for coming to objective conclusions.
 

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You must find it complex as you spoke about complexity regarding the matter. Contradicting yourself now.
No, I dont find it complex, this is 3rd time I am saying it. How many times more till it sinks in?
I suggested to you to not make it more complicated than it needs to be/than it is. Big difference, no contradiction.
Nope, it's not.
Seems you don't quite understand Goken and BOAT are more or less the same thing. Only a Goken can perform BOAT.
Projected attacks Zoro and Ryuma perform is simply based on BOAT which Gokens can perform. Asura is also implied to be based on Goken.
No proof it's Haki, baseless and evidence-less point.
As you would say it yourself, pure headcanon. There are no facts to support what you wrote, just like there aren't any confirming/denying what I wrote.
Already is error with it with the fact there's no evidence.
No, there isnt any error in the theory so far. There has to be something specific that kills theory, something the prevents it from being even possible and such thing doesnt exist. Dont confuse your different beliefs as proof which kills my theory, it is just your belief, nothing about those things is 100% proven yet.
 
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