Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Mankichi Togawa]

Astro Kyudan deserves an anime adaptation. The title that introduced fantastic action in Shonen Jump in 1973.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

Astro Kyudan deserves an anime adaptation. The title that introduced fantastic action in Shonen Jump in 1973.

As important as it is, I don’t really agree. Like it hasn’t aged nearly as well as other titles from the same time period.
Like it’d be nice, but they’d probably have to change a lot to make it work

 

[CrimsonEpitaph]

Mathematically speaking, yeah, DBS would overtake SxF but the gap would be so low, SxF 12th's chapter would again overtake DBS and get a huge advantage in views, since the growth for both series is basically around 150k (we would be talking about a 158k views growth per chapter for DBS and a 134k~161k views growth for SxF, since calculating it with the extra WSJ chapters messes it up and makes it a bit harder to calculate). Anyway, we can still celebrate.

And yeah, it's reaaaaaally low, but basically because the only thing spanish readers want on the website is One Piece or Dragon Ball Super, because, well, that's how it is. They don't even try new series or got any interest on it, and almost whole spanish readership of SxF have been reading it on english and will probably stick to the english version rather than spanish one (this basically generates a discussion about Castilian Spanish or Latinamerican Spanish being more suited, favourite by readers or not. And well, they basically don't like the spanish translation).

Spanish readers also read MHA, it's Spanish version has around 525k views now.

 

[Jovan]

Seeing early TOCs, interesting to see Rurouni Kenshin was Bottom 1 three times (Ou-sama wa Roba was a gag manga holding the bottom place) and Bottom 2 (once) early in it's run, before it started breaking out at Chapter 25.

 

[Psyrio]

I want a full blown adventure series. It doesn't even need to be a battle series, really. Just a really awesome setting that has an interesting hook and good characters.

I could get down with that as well.

 

[Stivie]

I'm up to date with act age, and I will say that now I understand why so many people like, what a good manga to read.

If I had to make a top 10 with the best readings of the year, that's it for now.

Kimetsu no Yaiba
Black clover
Act age
Chainsaw man
Kaguya sama: love is war
Spy × family
Jujutsu Kaisen
World trigger
Kemono jihen
The last saiyuki

 

[NeeNeen]

So I decided to give S8 a try after all (don't worry, I'll only talk about it once). The preview chapter has a certain childish charm to it, though the drawings are distracting at times. Giving exposition in the form of wishes is... actually not a bad idea, even if it's extremely convenient.
Then the first chapter completely lost me with its exposition, the MC acting like a whiny brat, weird character designs and chaotic imagery. Looks like this one isn't for me.

Hina Change and Dear Sa-chan are also dropped on account of all of the characters being either horrible people or passive victims. Is there a ranking for Jump+ series? I'm curious how these two are doing.

 

[RafGL]

So I decided to give S8 a try after all (don't worry, I'll only talk about it once). The preview chapter has a certain childish charm to it, though the drawings are distracting at times. Giving exposition in the form of wishes is... actually not a bad idea, even if it's extremely convenient.
Then the first chapter completely lost me with its exposition, the MC acting like a whiny brat, weird character designs and chaotic imagery. Looks like this one isn't for me.

Hina Change and Dear Sa-chan are also dropped on account of all of the characters being either horrible people or passive victims. Is there a ranking for Jump+ series? I'm curious how these two are doing.

You mean like japanese rankings? In Shonen Jump+, in the popularity (人気) ranking it goes like this:

Hina Change #29 - 2.949.751 views (5 chapters).
Dear Sa-chan #35 - 2.491.285 views (5 chapters).

Then in the 'hot' ranking? I don't exactly know the meaning of this (いいジャン), it would be:

Hina Change #7
Dear Sa-Chan #79

 

[Jovan]

So I decided to give S8 a try after all (don't worry, I'll only talk about it once). The preview chapter has a certain childish charm to it, though the drawings are distracting at times. Giving exposition in the form of wishes is... actually not a bad idea, even if it's extremely convenient.
Then the first chapter completely lost me with its exposition, the MC acting like a whiny brat, weird character designs and chaotic imagery. Looks like this one isn't for me.

Hina Change and Dear Sa-chan are also dropped on account of all of the characters being either horrible people or passive victims. Is there a ranking for Jump+ series? I'm curious how these two are doing.

Jump+ wise, Hina and Sa-chan are doing around 300k+ views per chapters recently, Hina a bit better (Hina's chapter days ago did 375k in the views per Jump+) app. Decent but not fantastic. Enough to stand out of a lot of other manga on the service.

2.5 Jigen no Yuuwaku is a monster out of the newbies though, going 600k per chapter.

Also that princess interrogation gag manga had been doing well, curious to see how Vol 1 does.

 

[revo68]

Spoiler: 38 TOC

ネバラン
鬼滅
ワンピ
ストーン
ヒロアカ
ハイキュー　センターカラー
呪術
チェンソー
群青のバトロ　センターカラー
ブラクロ
ぼく勉　センターカラー
アクタ
ゆらぎ
サムライ
髪緒
西遊記　最終回
忍
ビースト
ふたり

夜桜さんちの大作戦　権平ひつじ　表紙巻頭
ボーンコレクション　雲母坂盾　読み切りセンターカラー

ミタマセキュ霊ティ　鳩胸つるん　40号掲載

ストーン　センターカラー
ブラクロ　センターカラー

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The Promised Neverland (Cover & LCP)
Kimetsu no Yaiba
One Piece
Dr. Stone
My Hero Academia
Haikyuu!! (CP)
Jujutsu Kaisen
Chainsaw Man
Ultramarine Battle by Furuta Seiran (Oneshot/47p/CP)
Black Clover
We Never Learn (CP)
act-age
Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Samurai 8 Hachimaruden
Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui
Saigo no Saiyuuki (END)
Tokyo Shinobi Squad
Beast Children
Futari no Taisei

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Cover/LCP: Yozakura-san Chi no Daisakusen by Gondaira Hitsuji
CP: Dr Stone; Black Clover; Bone Collection (Oneshot/CP) by Kirarazaka Jun

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Mitama Secureity by Hatomune Tsurun

 

[El Jacco]

Spoiler: 39 TOC

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The Promised Neverland (Cover & LCP)
Kimetsu no Yaiba
One Piece
Dr. Stone
My Hero Academia
Haikyuu!! (CP)
Jujutsu Kaisen
Chainsaw Man
Ultramarine Battle by Furuta Seiran (Oneshot/47p/CP)
Black Clover
We Never Learn (CP)
act-age
Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Samurai 8 Hachimaruden
Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui
Saigo no Saiyuuki (END)
Tokyo Shinobi Squad
Beast Children
Futari no Taisei

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Cover/LCP:Yozakura-san Chi no Daisakusen by Gondaira Hitsuji
CP: Dr Stone; Black Clover; Bone Collection (Oneshot/CP) by Kirarazaka Jun

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Mitama Secureity by Hatomune Tsurun

Hey, Poro's author is back.
Let's see if it's serializing with the concept that won GFC because Poro's wasn't the best decision to launch in that time.

The author of the other new series had a series on Jump+ called Mukidashi no Hakuchou that run for 4 volumes and it seems like it was a comedy(?). I'm not sure because haven't hear/read about it.
Here is one of its volumes.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I hope that at least one of those two isn't a gag manga. I understand that Jump is right now lacking in an established comedy, but trying to get an already declining genre off the ground at a time when so many established series have either ended or are approaching their ends seems like a recipe for disaster.

 

[savethecat]

I was actually a fan a Poro, despite it’s flaws, and love the mangaka’s art style. Probably one of my favorites from past Jump that have yet to have a successful serialization.

REALLY hoping he gets a success this time.

I didn’t post my Axed Jump Manga Tier List, but I put Poro in my A section, so that goes to show I was really hoping he’d come back soon

 

[Neala897]

Mitama means the soul of the dead so expect supernatural

 

[Caiops]

Didn't expect to see Poro's author back so soon.

Rest in peace Saiyuki, the next one is Tokyo Shinobi Squad

 

[OniluapL]

I didn't like Poro very much, but I saw potential in the author, I think it can be good. Let's see, I guess.

Samurai 8 is in a relatively bad spot again, interesting. And I guess Yui will be saved again because the newbies are even worse? That would be impressive.

 

[IzayaDLL]

I hope that at least one of those two isn't a gag manga. I understand that Jump is right now lacking in an established comedy, but trying to get an already declining genre off the ground at a time when so many established series have either ended or are approaching their ends seems like a recipe for disaster.

Why you hate gag manga so much?

 

[Halloween]

Samurai 8 is in a relatively bad spot again, interesting.

It's in the middle. That's not relatively bad. Relatively bad would be bottom five. Terrible would be the very bottom.

 

[Rain Spectre]

It's in the middle. That's not relatively bad. Relatively bad would be bottom five. Terrible would be the very bottom.

I mean, it's technically not bottom five, but it's just above a bunch of series which have been passed off as axe fodder by most people. That's not terrible, but it's not exactly great when you consider the amount of hype that was backing it.

 

[Halloween]

Mitama means the soul of the dead so expect supernatural

Assuming it's an exorcism series, that's kinda crazy. They're going to oversaturate the magazine with that genre, it feels like.

Then again, clearly the readers like that genre, so it makes sense to cater to it, but still.

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I mean, it's technically not bottom five, but it's just above a bunch of series which have been passed off as axe fodder by most people. That's not terrible, but it's not exactly great when you consider the amount of hype that was backing it.

It doesn't mean anything. The ToC is largely irrelevant outside of the bottom five. This was more than likely editor-placed.

Don't look into it too much.