Theory Projected Attacks Aren't Wind-Pressure Based & Why Zoro can Perform Asura Explained

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Facts are bound to whatever the creator of fiction wants. Sticking to your established facts is a quality standard, not an requirement.

In fact there are quite many fictive works that contradict themself.

But anyways I think the general idea is correct and there is a spiritual connection between flying slashes and willpower. But I also think it's air what slices. In the end I think the whole Breath of All things is based on Shinto pantheism stuff we can't fully comprehend because we are not that familiar with it. I think in order to better understand it, one would have to get familiar with Shintoism, Japanese Buddhism, Bushido, and more.
 

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Facts are bound to whatever the creator of fiction wants. Sticking to your established facts is a quality standard, not an requirement.I
Facts are not a standard of quality, it's something that's present by default. It's an inevitable element of in any setting.

Sticking to established facts consistently? That's a whole other thing. That's dependent on the skill and memory of the author. As for One Piece, consistency is a major thing which is why things that were spoken of 15+ years ago become relevant now.

In fact there are quite many fictive works that contradict themself.
Human error, bad authors or poorly unorganised authors, rushed stories, etc. A good story sticks to what's established and writes within those established facts. A lack of consistency is just evidence of a poor story or poor story-telling.

But anyways I think the general idea is correct and there is a spiritual connection between flying slashes and willpower. But I also think it's air what slices.
Well, no evidence it's the air that slices in regards to BOAT. Not the same thing as saying Rankyaku which is a skill that utilises physical strength and air pressure to cut is not a thing in itself, but in regard to BOAT, it's not indicated as being the cause.

Also the fact that Haki cannot be imbued into non-solid things would suppose that Haki-based BOAT attacks are projections as opposed to the air being imbued with Haki given that air isn't tangible.




Going with the theme, such an attack would very likely be based on BOAT given that he projected a Dragon and produced blue flames. Couldn't say with certainty, but Kinemon's ability to cut with flames may very well be related to BOAT too. Wouldn't be surprised given that the first time Zoro did such a thing was against Ryuma and the next time he saw a similar feat performed was by a Wano Samurai.
 

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I think long-range slashes aren't necessarily linked to a Mighty Blade, the Breath of All Things or so. Not in a fixed way.

Being called a Mighty Blade means some expertise in swordsmanship. Breath of All Things is an advanced form of swordsmanship. In both cases, a swordsman would be skilled enough to use powerful projected slashes.

By comparison, Axe-Hand Morgan was incredibly weak and could cut distant objects. Or even the more powerful Mr. 1, who practically only used long-ranged slashes. Probably none of them would be called a Mighty Blade or had mastered the Breath of All Things.
 

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The way I took the recent haki explanations is that long range slashes and also cutting through metal is related to haki. From what I can tell the series is fairly clear about this...
 

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The way I took the recent haki explanations is that long range slashes and also cutting through metal is related to haki. From what I can tell the series is fairly clear about this...
That's from reading an inconsistent translation of that chapter: Jaimini.

VIZ and Mangastream clearly say otherwise.
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I think long-range slashes aren't necessarily linked to a Mighty Blade, the Breath of All Things or so.


It is directly linked to it, otherwise, there's no other explanation for Brook saying it so.

He called Ryuma a Mighty Blade for pulling of a projected attack and then followed with, Zoro and Ryuma are mighty blades.

Bare in mind, this is from SANDMAN_AP, the person who translated the current spoiler and often translates Japanese related content for us non-Japanese speaking folk.

The fuller image of that panel is:



Unless you can prove Brook's statement has nothing to do with Projecting a Slash attack, it's unfortunately a lost argument for those refuse for the sake of refusing to prove that BOAT is not related to projection of attacks in this instance.



The same Mighty Blade term is used in chapter 194 which is when BOAT was learnt by Zoro.

More so, BOAT has nothing to do with physical strength because BOAT is how Zoro went from previously being unable to cut steel to being unable to do so within moments. It's not like he grew stronger physically, he just learnt of a special power, thus the ability to cut steel.

Again, can't prove that physical strength has anything to do with projecting attacks just like physical strength is not what increased in order to cut steel regarding BOAT. Not like Zoro suddenly acquired a boost in strength physically just at the moment of death against Mr.1.
 

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I would avoid Mangastream... they tend to make translations that make no sense, or making up stuff to fill in the blanks. :/
 

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I would avoid Mangastream... they tend to make translations that make no sense, or making up stuff to fill in the blanks. :/
Nope.

That's where you're wrong.

Both Jaimini and Mangastream make mistakes, that's why you're supposed to read all 3 translations (Viz included) to see which ones are most consistent. If 2/3 say the same thing, chances are they're likely the correct translation for the most part.

Many instances where Jaimini have the better translation and many where Mangastream have the better translation, neither are ultimately better than the other. The VIZ has however proven superior.
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In fact, I can provide a panel where Jaimini were clearly inferior:

Jaimini:


Mangastream:
(Mangastream watermark found everywhere: https://manganelo.com/chapter/read_one_piece_manga_online_free4/chapter_859

Viz:


  • Jaimini more or less states nothing can pierce Big Mom's skin, absolutely nothing in the world.
  • Mangastream & Viz says nothing can pierce her skin under the condition of her being healthy - both different from Jaimini.
  • Mangastream & Viz also state not many weapons can pierce her skin; Jaimini says absolutely nothing in the world can; completely different.
Not the best choice to assume Mangastream is better than Jaimini and vice-versa, both have their days while VIZ remains to be the most consistent 9/10 times. If all 3 aren't read, you will have a completely skewered understanding of a lot of things due to bias of one site over another.
 
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