One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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1. Shanks v Mihawk
2. Hand to hand fighters > Swordsmen
3. Zoro > Luffy
4. Zoro v Sanji
5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
6. Mihawk's rank within the story
7. Law having CoC currently.
8. Katakuri > Kaido/Luffy/Etc.

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[Shasha23]

Assuming "2nd strongest" also includes a group (i.e. any of Enel's priests count)...

- Zoro fought against Mr. 1 in Arabasta, despite Smoker being around.

- Zoro fought Kuma in Thriller Bark, who was the 1st strongest.

- Things got way out of hand in Shabondy.

- Zoro fought against Zeo in Fishman Island, the 2nd strongest was obviously Wadatsumi.

- Zoro fought against Monet in Punk Hazard, who was the 3rd strongest (behind Ceasar and Vergo).

- Zoro fought against Pica in Dressrosa, despite Fujitora being around (if not stronger than Doflamingo himself).

- Zoro was not in the Whole Cake Island team.

2nd strongest of the enemies

=Alabasta - the enemies was BW and the 2nd strongest was Mr1, not the marines similar to Dressrosa
=2nd strongest of TB pirates was Ryuma (Orz came after thanks to their shadows)
=True
=Wadatsumi was not 2nd strongest since a jet pistol did him in while the Octopus Fishman casually blocked it
= PH was the same as whiskey peak and little garden since those characters were not the strongest and second strongest of their group but just underlings from that group.
=They were fighting the Doflamingo Family not the marines and the 2nd strongest was Pica
= Yeap in WCI Luffy beat Katakuri

 

[afromarco005]

Does coby have a future sight ?

that would be neat but is it enough to beat Boa?

 

[hassan]

So is sanji on rear admiral or vice admiral level?

 

[Fox666]

Vice-admirals are fodder by this point... Bartolomeo defeated Maynard like he was nothing, but was crapping his pants seeing Zoro fighting Pica. So that gives you an idea.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

vice-admiral always was a shitty powerhouserank, mostly because of garp who threw everything over

 

[HereNThere]

We've got too many Vice Admirals. Should've probably been, like, 10 or 12.

 

[nik87]

These 5 in the front are the core Vice Admirals and the best ones. Garp is an exception.

 

[King Moe]

So is sanji on rear admiral or vice admiral level?

Given his current fights in Wano, he is stronger than VA after beating PO easily and able to fight off Drake who looks to be in same league or big stronger than a VA.

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that would be neat but is it enough to beat Boa?

Don't think so. Doubt he is same lvl as Luffy and don't see him beating Boa Hancock either.

 

[King Moe]

But what if he "grows in the fight" ?

Who you referring to?

 

[HereNThere]

Depending on how much Oda wants Koby to keep up with Luffy, he should be decently strong.

 

[King Moe]

Depending on how much Oda wants Koby to keep up with Luffy, he should be decently strong.

He wants be Admiral. Don't see him same lvl as Luffy at EOS. He be more like next Kuzan while Smoker will be more equal to Luffy given their relationship is akin to Garp and Roger.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Depending on how much Oda wants Koby to keep up with Luffy, he should be decently strong.

But Oda had ample opportunity to show such a thing, but even during the war Luffy wrecked him.

2 things,

Luffy has the fastest growth of anyone in this series

Coby has never been shown to be elite fighter.

If these 2 things suddenly changed, gotta say I wont be a fan of it. It seems almost ridiculous.

2 years and already a Rear Admiral? Even that is a reach.

I at least hope Garp taught Coby advance marine techniques OR a hax df to make the fight more interesting

If Coby had a "REFLECTING" DF it would make Hancock vs Coby very interesting

I'm rabbling, but it's a possibility

 

[King Moe]

Coby would make an excellent fleet admiral even when not the strongest. Same as sengoku.

I meant that if coby and hancock fight maybe coby will learn something and means of defeating her would be to grow in the fight as usual.

That be for Smoker side as he more FA worthy while Coby want be Admiral instead.

Nah don't see that happening. Your overpushing Coby too much here.

 

[Pirate Queen]

We've got too many Vice Admirals. Should've probably been, like, 10 or 12.

And the range is insane. We have 1 hit fodder and then Admiral/Near Admiral Levels like Garp and Tsuru

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That be for Smoker side as he more FA worthy while Coby want be Admiral instead.

Nah don't see that happening. Your overpushing Coby too much here.

I'd prefer

Aokiji as Fleet Admiral

Fujitora, Coby, Smoker as Admirals

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I'm pretty sure the top 2 Vice Admirals could give Sanji and Zoro a run for their money

 

[HereNThere]

He wants be Admiral. Don't see him same lvl as Luffy at EOS. He be more like next Kuzan while Smoker will be more equal to Luffy given their relationship is akin to Garp and Roger.

He'll probably be a step behind Luffy, but I still see him being decently strong.

But Oda had ample opportunity to show such a thing, but even during the war Luffy wrecked him.

2 things,

Luffy has the fastest growth of anyone in this series

Coby has never been shown to be elite fighter.

If these 2 things suddenly changed, gotta say I wont be a fan of it. It seems almost ridiculous.

The way I see it, Koby is just playing a bit of catch up since he started training later than Luffy. The two scuffles they had showed that. He's always been a step behind.

He may not be developing as fast as Luffy, but his own growth has been explosive. He hasn't been shown in any decent fights yet, but I imagine we're supposed to see him as a stromg individual now given his portrayal recently.

 

[Pirate Queen]

He'll probably be a step behind Luffy, but I still see him being decently strong.



The way I see it, Koby is just playing a bit of catch up since he started training later than Luffy. The two scuffles they had showed that. He's always been a step behind.

He may not be developing as fast as Luffy, but his own growth has been explosive. He hasn't been shown in any decent fights yet, but I imagine we're supposed to see him as a stromg individual now given his portrayal recently.

I predict the manga ends with a timeskip and in that time we see Coby, with the Rank of Admiral, confronting Pirate King Luffy.

My wish for the closing panel of this manga, a beautiful end.

I just dont think Coby can close the gap so close o the mangas end

 

[King Moe]

And the range is insane. We have 1 hit fodder and then Admiral/Near Admiral Levels like Garp and Tsuru

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I'd prefer

Aokiji as Fleet Admiral

Fujitora, Coby, Smoker as Admirals

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I'm pretty sure the top 2 Vice Admirals could give Sanji and Zoro a run for their money

Maybe, but feel Aokiji will denied the position due to his 'Lazy' side. It be probably be Smoker to be FA while Coby be apart of Admirals. Don't think Fujitora and Greenhill be aroubd still as either they move up in ranks or retired. I feel 2 spots be fill by new people.

I don't see that possible, but who you said could take on Sanji and Zoro?

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He'll probably be a step behind Luffy, but I still see him being decently strong.



The way I see it, Koby is just playing a bit of catch up since he started training later than Luffy. The two scuffles they had showed that. He's always been a step behind.

He may not be developing as fast as Luffy, but his own growth has been explosive. He hasn't been shown in any decent fights yet, but I imagine we're supposed to see him as a stromg individual now given his portrayal recently.

I can see that. He be probably around Jimbei's lvl, but can't see him stronger than Sanji and Zoro like that. He can be challenging, but Luffy wins in the end.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Maybe, but feel Aokiji will denied the position due to his 'Lazy' side. It be probably be Smoker to be FA while Coby be apart of Admirals. Don't think Fujitora and Greenhill be aroubd still as either they move up in ranks or retired. I feel 2 spots be fill by new people.

Aokiji WANTED the position, which is why he and Akainu fought for 10 days... so no. It's not a matter of him denying it.

Smoker is not a powerhouse. But he's dependable for an organization like Sword

 

[nik87]

Based on recent events, could it be that Aokiji and Akainu faked their battle so Aokiji could infiltrate the most dangerous pirate group?
Both of them could possibly be members of SWORD and if they fought the loser had to obey the orders, instead of leaving Marines.
Akainu has a sword tattoo and Aokiji's actions smell so much similar to Drake's.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Based on recent events, could it be that Aokiji and Akainu faked their battle so Aokiji could infiltrate the most dangerous pirate group?
Both of them could possibly be members of SWORD and if they fought the loser had to obey the orders, instead of leaving Marines.
Akainu has a sword tattoo and Aokiji's actions smell so much similar to Drake's.

I dont see Coby and Akainu working towards a common goal and going about it the same wY