Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Leoat12]

Where can I found the color pages please ?

It depends on the quality. On the official website there are the current issue color pages, but a somewhat low quality. If you want previous ones or in HD people used to post in other thread, but now they don't do that anymore apparently.

 

[Thundercat27]

Ray seems to follow Emma suicidal decisions because he likes her (this is very obvious), he blindly follows her decisions despite being smart himself. Norman is by far the most reasonable one when it comes to guarantee the future of humanity.

I am going to disagree with you here. We all know that the humanity is still fine and dandy in their own world. So the stake is only the survivability of people got left behind. Also Norman cant kill all demons., Hell, the demons much be fucking incompetent if Norman can just genocide them all. What happened after Norman rescue and return the livestock back to human world would be a broken promise and resuming the human-demon war. Thus, Norman solution means a prolong costly conflict for mankind.
So, Emma solution, rely on deus ex machina bullshit, is the best one: a reforged promise would protect the peace between human and demon world, also spread out Mujika blood so demon no longer need to eat human to keep their sanity.
Also, spoiler for the latest chapter, by killing all the noble, Norman accidentally help Emma by removing the authority that prevent the widespread of Mujika blood.
The last thing the manga need to answer is what did Emma promise that made the demon god gave up eating the best human meat.

 

[animeexpert]

I was talking more about the Japanese reception being harsh (a lot of them didn't like the actress chosen for Rukia) outside its country of origin it has a much warmer reception.

Yeh, I just said it globally cuz I actually enjoyed it. Btw u know why they didnt like the rukia actress?

 

[Halloween]

Careful with the plot spoilers, guys. Always just assume new readers are reading this thread. Don't post plot details that spoil anything beyond the most basic plot synopsis without using spoiler tags, please.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Yeh, I just said it globally cuz I actually enjoyed it. Btw u know why they didnt like the rukia actress?

Wasn't a fit for her character mostly by looks.

 

[animeexpert]

Wasn't a fit for her character mostly by looks.

Sigh.. I better say nothing before I gonna sound really rude. All I'm saying is that She was perfect

 

[101nemesis]

They complained about her hair, mostly. How it wasn't like Rukia's, which IMO is a ridiculous thing to be complaining about. The actress actually did a decent job, acting wise for the role she had in the movie.

 

[vinceled]

Haikyuu this week... the chapter was awesome

 

[Ctkk]

They complained about her hair, mostly. How it wasn't like Rukia's, which IMO is a ridiculous thing to be complaining about. The actress actually did a decent job, acting wise for the role she had in the movie.

Have they never heard of wigs and make-up or what?

 

[101nemesis]

Have they never heard of wigs and make-up or what?

If you're watching a movie for the accurate representation of a character's hair, you're probably watching it for the wrong reasons.

 

[Halloween]

If you're watching a movie for the accurate representation of a character's hair, you're probably watching it for the wrong reasons.

Reading this made me think of this quote.

 

[Aeneas]

Another question then, do you think a manga needs strong characters to survive? I mean that by quality of the writing, for reference.

Asking because, talking to my JP friends, it seems that half of the community values such things quite a bit.

Was (re)reading the Kishimoto/Togashi interview recently, and remembered:

Togashi Sensei: It would be nice if you could bring that system into manga, but manga first needs to be interesting based on character relationships. So even if a manga was like a game, it would be meaningless because you couldn’t interact with it. What makes a manga great is whether or not you can relate to the characters that the manga artist creates.

And then talking about sports series specifically:

Kishimoto Sensei: Take sports as an example. Pretty much everyone knows baseball, so I believe it’s easy to relate to.
JUMP GIGA: That makes sense.
Kishimoto Sensei: But if you bring in a niche sport, people don’t know the rules, so they can’t even tell what’s going on. So…and I apologize to people who play it, but something like kabaddi, the game from ancient India.
Togashi Sensei: For someone who’s never seen it before, kabaddi would be a fantasy world.
Kishimoto Sensei: Yes, they wouldn’t recognize it. So they can’t relate to it. So how do you suck someone into a story about kabaddi? You focus on the players. Why are they playing the sport? The drama of their motivations will interest the reader, and I think they will eventually learn the rules of the sport.
Togashi Sensei: It’s amazing how you can enjoy anything as long as there’s drama. You don’t need to know the rules. That’s one of the greatest strengths of storytelling.
Kishimoto Sensei: So first focus on the players, then the rules. Get that far, and the reader will enjoy it even if they didn’t know about the sport before.
JUMP GIGA: You’re right. Sports manga usually save the rules for after you’re interested in the characters.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Thing that I've found despite being from 2016.

Goku by Horikoshi:

Goku by Tabata:

 

[Kolbe]

This is from the DB tributes, celebrating the 40 years of the manga:
Where did you find these versions?

 

[Xzone]

Haikyuu this week... the chapter was awesome

I like that

Spoiler

3 years(and four month) have passed since the begining of the National arc, the same of number of year that a japanese school have.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

We had that same problem in mid 2010's, there will always be hits coming . Some are meant to be hits like (the promised Neverland) and some are meant starting as an underdog (kimetsu no yaiba). No worriess

Different context, 2010 wasn't really a good year but Shonen Jump was full of hits, the line up was stacked at the time while at the moment the magazine is actually working with two less mangas than the usual and veteran series ending left and right, i know that popular stuff will come but my point is more that Shonen Jump needs to step it up in 2020 because they have a lot of left spaces to fill.

 

[Ctkk]

Thing that I've found despite being from 2016.

Goku by Horikoshi:

Goku by Tabata:

Asta-Goku and Deku-Goku are a little uncanny, but they don't reach the level of terror that is Luffy-Goku.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Different context, 2010 wasn't really a good year but Shonen Jump was full of hits, the line up was stacked at the time while at the moment the magazine is actually working with two less mangas than the usual and veteran series ending left and right, i know that popular stuff will come but my point is more that Shonen Jump needs to step it up in 2020 because they have a lot of left spaces to fill.

Mid 2010s. AE is referring to 2016, which is actually a more devastating year considering we lost:

1. Arguably the biggest romcom in Jump history. (Nisekoi)
2. One of the leading series of the magazine at its prime. (Assassination Classroom)
3. A series which had been running for 40 years. (Kochikame)
4. One of the Big 3. (Bleach)
5. A series that, while it had run itself into the ground somewhat, was still a very much a big part of the magazine for the better part of a decade. (Toriko)

This current period isn't great for sure, but it's less messy because Jump's series more or less are built as a collective now. While losing TPN and KNY won't exactly be great, it's easier to bounce back compared to what we lost previously.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

1. Arguably the biggest romcom in Jump history. (Nisekoi)

I'm tired to repeat again that Video Girl Ai, Kimagure Orange Road and To Love-Ru had both more legacy and sales.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I'm tired to repeat again that Video Girl Ai, Kimagure Orange Road and To Love-Ru had both more legacy and sales.

Sales /=/ Impact.

Also, when you wanna argue, do remember Nisekoi is easily the biggest romcom in Jump in terms of scope. Video Girl Ai and Kimagure did well, yes, but that was during the Golden Age, when titles were selling like gangbusters and Jump was the actual king of the industry, not to mention the former only ran for 13 volumes. TLR meanwhile was actually selling the least of any series in the Big 3 Era, that just looks still big today because that was the absolute peak in average volume sales for Jump manga.

Nisekoi meanwhile is not only the longest romcom Jump has ever had (for better or worse), but it's the one with the biggest influence on Jump during its run. It was consistently in the Top 5 or near the Top 5 in terms of best-selling titles in the magazine, it had crossovers, spinoffs, side material, what have you. It was a bigger part of Jump as a brand than any of those series you mentioned, and was easily the biggest romcom in the industry while it was running (whereas Kimagure and Ai would've been overshadowed by whatever Takahashi and Adachi were doing over in Sunday).