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From what I read from the past few pages of this thread,it's all about how strong Mira is by comparing the feats of Natsu,Mineva,Sting,Rouge and Kagura and comparing who is stronger between Neinhart and Jacob.
Defining STRONG(from Merriam-Webster Dictionary):
As what we have seen in the final arc,most of S12 took a few/lot of hits from their enemy with the intention of winning over each of the S12,so they have as great durability as any other member of S12(again w/ the exception of the top 3),the only exception there was Neinhart. We saw that his attack power and MP is as big as Ajeel,Brandish,Larcade,Invel etc. however,we didn't saw him fighting in h2h combat with Jellal,Erza or Kagura because of the nature of his magic w/c likely the same as any summoning magic,relying on who they summoned more than themselves(like Lucy when she didn't have stardress,or Zoldeo-Capricorn).
To conclude,as what we have seen in the CANON,most likely Neinhart has a QUITE LESSER DURABILITY than the rest of the S12. This will still not defy the notion the "S12 is nearly as strong as each other w/ exception of top 3". So,Jacob>Neinhart for a lesser margin because of the defense BUT:
Offensive power:
Enchanted Neinhart>Jacob (This will support the statement of @Jko that Irene's enchantments are a big thing)
Defense:
I believe Enchanted Neinhart=Jacob at this point.
So the comparison of Natsu fighting both would be:
Natsu punching ENCHANTED Neinhart > Natsu fighting Jacob regardless of the kind of punch used.
***Jacob breaking the crystal is only the consequence of him injuring the astral body of Mavis because of Jacob's nature of magic,it's not a big thing tbh. It wasn't also STATED by Mavis or Cana or some Narration that Cana used FG 20 times,FG needs a lot of MP,it's impossible for Cana to use it 20 times without exhausting her MP even if Mavis said she has potential as she is Gildart's daughter. Unless yo are saying that Cana > than any S12 when it comes to MP reserves(and for the record,Cana was holding back in the previous attempts).
For Mira,base on the final arc,Mira > than Minerva,Kagura for a very few margin base on feats. I cannot say the same w/ Sting,Rouge and Natsu BECAUSE Dragon Slayers has been portrayed as stronger than most of the wizards because:
1.) They are important in the plot.
2.) In the battle w/ Edolas King,Natsu,Wendy and Gajeel showed to have a great magic reserves and offense. Same can be said w/ the battle w/ Acnologia vs 7DS.
I really wanted Fairy Tail to still have 2 teams at GMG so that there would be a possibility of Minerva x Kagura x Erza x Mira,and we can say who is the strongest and we can finally end the debate between Mira and Erza. They are the strongest women in that tournament. Sadly,it didn't happen. And we can also say that Minerva and Kagura trained you know,just because FT members were mostly seen doesn't mean they are the only ones who trained,worked and got stronger the entire timeskip.
Defining STRONG(from Merriam-Webster Dictionary):
- having great physical power and ability : having a lot of strength
- : not easy to break or damage
- : not sick or injured
As what we have seen in the final arc,most of S12 took a few/lot of hits from their enemy with the intention of winning over each of the S12,so they have as great durability as any other member of S12(again w/ the exception of the top 3),the only exception there was Neinhart. We saw that his attack power and MP is as big as Ajeel,Brandish,Larcade,Invel etc. however,we didn't saw him fighting in h2h combat with Jellal,Erza or Kagura because of the nature of his magic w/c likely the same as any summoning magic,relying on who they summoned more than themselves(like Lucy when she didn't have stardress,or Zoldeo-Capricorn).
To conclude,as what we have seen in the CANON,most likely Neinhart has a QUITE LESSER DURABILITY than the rest of the S12. This will still not defy the notion the "S12 is nearly as strong as each other w/ exception of top 3". So,Jacob>Neinhart for a lesser margin because of the defense BUT:
Offensive power:
Enchanted Neinhart>Jacob (This will support the statement of @Jko that Irene's enchantments are a big thing)
Defense:
I believe Enchanted Neinhart=Jacob at this point.
So the comparison of Natsu fighting both would be:
Natsu punching ENCHANTED Neinhart > Natsu fighting Jacob regardless of the kind of punch used.
***Jacob breaking the crystal is only the consequence of him injuring the astral body of Mavis because of Jacob's nature of magic,it's not a big thing tbh. It wasn't also STATED by Mavis or Cana or some Narration that Cana used FG 20 times,FG needs a lot of MP,it's impossible for Cana to use it 20 times without exhausting her MP even if Mavis said she has potential as she is Gildart's daughter. Unless yo are saying that Cana > than any S12 when it comes to MP reserves(and for the record,Cana was holding back in the previous attempts).
For Mira,base on the final arc,Mira > than Minerva,Kagura for a very few margin base on feats. I cannot say the same w/ Sting,Rouge and Natsu BECAUSE Dragon Slayers has been portrayed as stronger than most of the wizards because:
1.) They are important in the plot.
2.) In the battle w/ Edolas King,Natsu,Wendy and Gajeel showed to have a great magic reserves and offense. Same can be said w/ the battle w/ Acnologia vs 7DS.
I really wanted Fairy Tail to still have 2 teams at GMG so that there would be a possibility of Minerva x Kagura x Erza x Mira,and we can say who is the strongest and we can finally end the debate between Mira and Erza. They are the strongest women in that tournament. Sadly,it didn't happen. And we can also say that Minerva and Kagura trained you know,just because FT members were mostly seen doesn't mean they are the only ones who trained,worked and got stronger the entire timeskip.
