Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[OtterBrigade]

There’s so many eligible ones. Perhaps it’s a matter of finding translators or redrawers?

Official don't need redrawers. They get it without any text needing cleared.

 

[Paze]

?????
From the statements of Hori it seems that the manga will go beyond the 30 volumes he has planned.

My Hero will reach 30 volumes next year, so it goes without saying that at least another two years will last ....

I never said it would end in two years? That's way too soon from any estimation.

 

[MangAniMY]

week 2 (sq, & some other mixed in)

1 9784088820545 ＯＮＥ　ＰＩＥＣＥ　９４ 集英社 尾田栄一郎 2019.10.4
2 9784088820774 約束のネバーランド　１６ 集英社 出水ぽすか 2019.10.4
3 9784088820804 鬼滅の刃　１７ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2019.10.4
4 9784088821207 ＳＰＹ×ＦＡＭＩＬＹ　２ 集英社 遠藤達哉 2019.10.4
5 9784088820491 ブラッククローバー　２２ 集英社 田畠裕基 2019.10.4
6 9784088820736 食戟のソーマ　３６ 集英社 佐伯俊 2019.10.4
7 9784088820767 呪術廻戦　７ 集英社 芥見下々 2019.10.4
9 9784088820811 ＢＯＲＵＴＯ－ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　ＮＥＸＴ　Ｇ　９ 集英社 池本幹雄 2019.10.4
10 9784088820842 吾峠呼世晴短編集 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2019.10.4
31 9784088820750 チェンソーマン　４ 集英社 藤本タツキ 2019.10.4
35 9784088818955 この音とまれ！　２１ 集英社 アミュー 2019.10.4
39 9784088820798 ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん　１８ 集英社 ミウラタダヒロ 2019.10.4
47 9784088821283 僕のヒーローアカデミア　公式キャラクターブ 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.10.4
50 9784088820989 ＯＮＥ　ＰＩＥＣＥ　ＤＯＯＲＳ！　３ 集英社 尾田栄一郎 2019.10.4
65 9784088820910 キャプテン翼　ライジングサン　１２ 集英社 高橋陽一 2019.10.4
67 9784088820224 サムライ８　八丸伝　１ 集英社 大久保彰 2019.10.4
70 9784088820828 サムライ８　八丸伝　２ 集英社 大久保彰 2019.10.4
74 9784088820781 火ノ丸相撲　２７ 集英社 川田 2019.10.4
80 9784088821351 ブラッククローバー外伝　カルテットナイツ　３ 集英社 田代弓也 2019.10.4
90 9784088821290 ２．５次元の誘惑　１ 集英社 橋本悠 2019.10.4
120 9784088820859 食戟のソーマ　Ｌ’ｅｔｏｉｌｅ－エトワー　８ 集英社 昭時大紀 2019.10.4
148 9784088820880 魔女の怪画集　６ 集英社 晴智 2019.10.4
163 9784088821276 食戟のソーマ　ラストファンブック　～ｃｒｅ 集英社 佐伯俊 2019.10.4
169 9784088820712 モネさんのマジメすぎるつき合い方　８ 集英社 梧桐柾木 2019.10.4
206 9784088818320 俺を好きなのはお前だけかよ　４ 集英社 伊島ユウ 2019.10.4
211 9784088821269 サマータイムレンダ　８ 集英社 田中靖規 2019.10.4
228 9784088821313 有害指定同級生　３ 集英社 くろは 2019.10.4
305 9784088820897 ダークギャザリング　２ 集英社 近藤憲一 2019.10.4
348 9784088821214 昭和オトメ御伽話　３ 集英社 桐丘さな 2019.10.4
422 9784088820095 左ききのエレン　９ 集英社 ｎｉｆｕｎｉ 2019.10.4

 

[revo68]

week 2 (sq, & some other mixed in)

1 9784088820545 ＯＮＥ　ＰＩＥＣＥ　９４ 集英社 尾田栄一郎 2019.10.4
2 9784088820774 約束のネバーランド　１６ 集英社 出水ぽすか 2019.10.4
3 9784088820804 鬼滅の刃　１７ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2019.10.4
4 9784088821207 ＳＰＹ×ＦＡＭＩＬＹ　２ 集英社 遠藤達哉 2019.10.4
5 9784088820491 ブラッククローバー　２２ 集英社 田畠裕基 2019.10.4
6 9784088820736 食戟のソーマ　３６ 集英社 佐伯俊 2019.10.4
7 9784088820767 呪術廻戦　７ 集英社 芥見下々 2019.10.4
9 9784088820811 ＢＯＲＵＴＯ－ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　ＮＥＸＴ　Ｇ　９ 集英社 池本幹雄 2019.10.4
10 9784088820842 吾峠呼世晴短編集 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2019.10.4
31 9784088820750 チェンソーマン　４ 集英社 藤本タツキ 2019.10.4
35 9784088818955 この音とまれ！　２１ 集英社 アミュー 2019.10.4
39 9784088820798 ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん　１８ 集英社 ミウラタダヒロ 2019.10.4
47 9784088821283 僕のヒーローアカデミア　公式キャラクターブ 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.10.4
50 9784088820989 ＯＮＥ　ＰＩＥＣＥ　ＤＯＯＲＳ！　３ 集英社 尾田栄一郎 2019.10.4
65 9784088820910 キャプテン翼　ライジングサン　１２ 集英社 高橋陽一 2019.10.4
67 9784088820224 サムライ８　八丸伝　１ 集英社 大久保彰 2019.10.4
70 9784088820828 サムライ８　八丸伝　２ 集英社 大久保彰 2019.10.4
74 9784088820781 火ノ丸相撲　２７ 集英社 川田 2019.10.4
80 9784088821351 ブラッククローバー外伝　カルテットナイツ　３ 集英社 田代弓也 2019.10.4
90 9784088821290 ２．５次元の誘惑　１ 集英社 橋本悠 2019.10.4
120 9784088820859 食戟のソーマ　Ｌ’ｅｔｏｉｌｅ－エトワー　８ 集英社 昭時大紀 2019.10.4
148 9784088820880 魔女の怪画集　６ 集英社 晴智 2019.10.4
163 9784088821276 食戟のソーマ　ラストファンブック　～ｃｒｅ 集英社 佐伯俊 2019.10.4
169 9784088820712 モネさんのマジメすぎるつき合い方　８ 集英社 梧桐柾木 2019.10.4
206 9784088818320 俺を好きなのはお前だけかよ　４ 集英社 伊島ユウ 2019.10.4
211 9784088821269 サマータイムレンダ　８ 集英社 田中靖規 2019.10.4
228 9784088821313 有害指定同級生　３ 集英社 くろは 2019.10.4
305 9784088820897 ダークギャザリング　２ 集英社 近藤憲一 2019.10.4
348 9784088821214 昭和オトメ御伽話　３ 集英社 桐丘さな 2019.10.4
422 9784088820095 左ききのエレン　９ 集英社 ｎｉｆｕｎｉ 2019.10.4

Shoseki Rankings 7/10 - 13/10

Weekly Shonen Jump
1 One Piece #94
2 The Promised Neverland #16
3 Kimetsu no Yaiba #17
5 Black Clover #22
6 Shokugeki no Soma #36
7 Jujutsu Kaisen #07
10 Gotouge Koyoharu's Short Story Collection
31 Chainsaw Man #04
39 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings #18
47 My Hero Academia Fanbook
67 Samurai 8 Hachimaruden #01
70 Samurai 8 Hachimaruden #02
74 Hinomaru Zumo #27
163 Shokugeki no Soma Fanbook

Jump+
4 SPY×FAMILY #02
80 Black Clover Gaiden Quartet Knights #03
90 2.5D Seduction #01
120 Shokugeki no Soma L'etoile #08
168 Mone-san no Majime Sugiru Tsukiaikata #08
206 Ore wo Suki na no wa Omae Dakekayo #04
211 Summertime Rendering #08
348 Showa Otome Otogibanashi #03
422 Hidarikiki no Eren #09

Non October 4th Volumes (Top 100)
15 Kimetsu no Yaiba #01
17 Kimetsu no Yaiba #03
20 Kimetsu no Yaiba #02
21 Kimetsu no Yaiba #04
22 Kimetsu no Yaiba #13
23 Kimetsu no Yaiba #12
24 Kimetsu no Yaiba #05
25 Kimetsu no Yaiba #14
26 Kimetsu no Yaiba #16
27 Kimetsu no Yaiba #11
28 Kimetsu no Yaiba #06
29 Kimetsu no Yaiba Fanbook
32 Kimetsu no Yaiba #15
33 SPY×FAMILY #01
36 Kimetsu no Yaiba #09
43 Kimetsu no Yaiba #10
45 Kimetsu no Yaiba #07
46 Kimetsu no Yaiba #08
60 One Piece #93
77 The Promised Neverland #15
78 Haikyuu!! #39
100 My Hero Academia #24

106 Dr. Stone #12
170 Dr. Stone #11
183 Dr. Stone #06
184 Dr. Stone #10
187 Dr. Stone #07
188 Dr. Stone #09
191 Dr. Stone #08
197 Dr. Stone #05
227 Dr. Stone #01
248 Dr. Stone #02
258 Dr. Stone #04
263 Dr. Stone #03

30位27500/50位15450/100位7850/200位3800/300位2750/400位2150/500位1700

 

[Maxy Barnard]

Well, this is about what I was thinking we’d see from Samurai 8 (the cursed subject). A steady sales period that shows a stability it was lacking in the first week. Bodes better for it.

also my god the Kimetsu and Stone backlogs just won’t let up

 

[MangAniMY]

not saying anything other than disregarding stock issues, (which is possible we might be seeing with KNY) a minor drop is usual for the 2nd week of a 3 days FW,

although I do want to add that WoW rise is rare (which another certain series might do this week)

 

[Halloween]

New poll is up.

 

[Jovan]

New poll is up.

Top five for the 1st chapter (which is the one that counts), 2nd one will be close to the bottom as a with "gag with more than 1 chapter per issue" case. The fact they are giving it a double chapter this early in it's run is a telling sign right there.

 

[Halloween]

Top five for the 1st chapter (which is the one that counts), 2nd one will be close to the bottom as a with "gag with more than 1 chapter per issue" case. The fact they are giving it a double chapter this early in it's run is a telling sign right there.

I'm kinda banking on it being the next perma-bottom dweller. Not because of lack of popularity, but for tradition.

 

[KoL2.0]

Well Samurai 8 did 12k and 11k in three days, each vol. respectively. What're the chances each vol. Did 20k in week 2 for a sum of 31-32k per vol.?

I could be way off the mark.

 

[Jovan]

Well Samurai 8 did 12k and 11k in three days, each vol. respectively. What're the chances each vol. Did 20k in week 2 for a sum of 31-32k per vol.?

I could be way off the mark.

We should wait till Oricon tomorrow, but Vol 1/Vol 2 (67th/70th rank) did less than 15k in these 7 days (50th rank). Probably will do around the same for the first 3 days, so a 24k-25k ish Vol 1 total in 10 days.

Still a far, far, far cry from Robot x Laserbeam numbers in 13 days...
│*59605 (6)│*79396│------│------│------┃*,*79,396 (**13)┃2017/07｜ROBOT×LASERBEAM 1

 

[savethecat]

Although I enjoy S8 and want it to do decent, there was a certain popular influencer in the anime community that swore up and down that S8 was gonna be the next pillar of manga/anime(as well as the best manga he’s read in 10 years), and that once it got an anime haters would shut up.

I really want to see his reaction to the first day sales

 

[tirakai]

Please keep anime youtubers out of the topic, especially ones that know nothing about how the magazine works.

Speaking of getting an anime though, I'm curious if Pierrot or whoever's already planning something due it being Kishi or if the vastly underwhelming reception has them staying away. I know some series have a studio start planning an adaptation very early on (25 chapters is enough for 1 cour after all).

 

[OtterBrigade]

If Shueisha hires a studio I really doubt that studio cares how successful the manga is they just want to get paid.

 

[tirakai]

Generally anime studios are the ones that come forward with interest in the manga, Shueisha doesn't make people adapt their series.

 

[Koni]

Generally anime studios are the ones that come forward with interest in the manga, Shueisha doesn't make people adapt their series.

I think it’s actually a bit of both, according to the often referenced interview:

Weekly Shonen Jump Editor-in-Chief Hiroyuki Nakano

Get the inside scoop on exactly what it's like to be the editor of the most powerful manga magazine in the world - Weekly Shonen Jump, home of One Piece, Dragon Ball Super and more.

www.animenewsnetwork.com

“Sometimes, a manga is popular and we want to broaden its appeal by turning it into an anime, so we go around to various companies asking if they will adapt it as a way of promoting the series.”

On a related note, it seems as if we can expect more seasonal adaptations of newer Shonen Jump manga, which is a very good thing in my book.

In other news:
Japan seems to be making a run at the Rugby World Cup and the country is definitely noticing. I have no idea if this will affect Beast Children’s chances in any way whatsoever, but hey. A few of my friends like the manga, so there’s hope(?) for them.

 

[Konja9]

If Shueisha hires a studio I really doubt that studio cares how successful the manga is they just want to get paid.

As it was mentioned, Shueisha doesn't hire a studio. The studios contact Shueisha for a manga.

The studio are paid by their sponsors. That's why the sucecess of an anime is based in its merchandise sales.

 

[OtterBrigade]

As it was mentioned, Shueisha doesn't hire a studio. The studios contact Shueisha for a manga.

The studio are paid by their sponsors. That's why the sucecess of an anime is based in its merchandise sales.

Read Koni's reply it's both.

 

[ShenGao]

Let Beast Children die and immediately bring back Kawada to create a GOOD rugby sports manga.

 

[savethecat]

As it was mentioned, Shueisha doesn't hire a studio. The studios contact Shueisha for a manga.

The studio are paid by their sponsors. That's why the sucecess of an anime is based in its merchandise sales.

If I remember correctly it’s actually both.
Sometimes Shuiesha will hire a studio to adapt one of their popular titles.
However there are occasions where the studio reaches out to them about wanting to adapt a series.
Bones contacted them about doing MHA. And Aniplex contacted them about adapting Neverland. And in both cases Shuiesha accepted.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 15, 2019, Original Post Date: Oct 15, 2019 ---

I only vote “Bottom 5” for Mitama because even if it’s a success it could potential end up just being the “back end of the magazine gag manga”