Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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And I'm saying that those numbers are worthless because its in a boost period that's not an actual representation of its sales numbers. You obviously pointed this out to make it seem bigger than what it already was, yeah the current volume of Kimetsu is outselling two series in which their anime are not airing currently or who are not in the same boost period no shit sherlock, so what you're saying holds no water other than to flame and if you were being serious it would be considered stupid.
Man, what's your problem? don't you understand that i'm not being serious about it? i just made a comment pointing out that Yaiba current volume it's outselling by a good margin both Neverland and BNHA current numbers and you act super serious and even like a asshole about it as if i made the comment with intentions or to "flame" (whatever that means) lol
 

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This was the same theory people had to why Hinomaru Zumo stayed in the magazine for so long despite being an incredibly low seller.
Zumo got next to no promotion and color pages up until its anime premiere in comparison to Dr. Stone which had its series promoted on AmeTalk before its first volume came out. Zumo's rankings reflected it overall popularity.

I see no reason why editorial would continue “pushing” a series and not cancelling a series that isn’t matching the alledged promo their forcing if they aren’t getting results. Why would they still continue to give it color pages and push it, if the push hasn’t been working for 3+ years
The current editorial staff are in a completely different mindset than they were a decade ago and don't seem to be in a hurry to cancel as many series as they used to and instead make them grow. The truth of the matter is that It won't hurt to keep Stone in the magazine but neither to cancel it.

And there’s a such thing as being a fan of something, but not obsessing over it to the point of wanting every volume of it.
Stone isn't big enough to say that its mainly staying itself a float in the magazine that's ridiculous.
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I’m just saying, that we all 100% know for a fact that the TOC isn’t actually a ranking system, and things aren’t placed in order of survey results.
It’s very well realistic that that Stone is placed at the top so much because the survey results may show that that’s where readers like it.
But not enough to actually buy it. Even though every series that has been in the top of the magazine for long periods of time have went on to become top sellers making Stone the ONLY exception to the rule. That's a bit of a stretch.

I just think the theory and jokes that Jump has been consistently MEGA PUSHING a series for nearly 4 years now, hoping that it would become that next House Hold title, despite it not showing any signs of becoming that insanely huge title, makes even less sense.
I mean they did this shit with Toriko years ago and it backfired hard and it doesn't help that with Stone is that they actually got caught trying to make it seem it was a bigger deal than it actually was (remember them using bots to inflate the views of the first PV). At this point its obvious that they were way off with their prospects for the series and are just going about with the usual promotion until the anime ends.
 

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Weekly Manga Sales 7/10-13/10 - Series


#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba - 469,811
#2 One Piece - 393,495
#3 The Promised Neverland - 210, 289
#4 Spy x Family - 109,101
#5 Jujutsu Kaisen - 67,820
#6 Black Clover - 67,529
#7 Shokugeki no Souma - 62,121
One Piece is about to barely beat out Kimetsu depending on how November is.

Go Beastars!
 

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I’m gonna be honest... Kimetsu boost has been so huge that even when things stabilize, it’s got a pretty solid chance at staying at #2 in terms of volume to volume sales. Well know for sure in December, when HeroAca comes out swinging with an anime and a movie to go with its Volume 25.

I think it’ll be close.
 

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I’m gonna be honest... Kimetsu boost has been so huge that even when things stabilize, it’s got a pretty solid chance at staying at #2 in terms of volume to volume sales. Well know for sure in December, when HeroAca comes out swinging with an anime and a movie to go with its Volume 25.

I think it’ll be close.
It won't stabilize for a good while or at least we'll know this come the restock. Even if it doesn't beat OP by the end of the year it can beat it in the first half of 2020 if it keeps up the momentum.
 

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Zumo got next to no promotion and color pages up until its anime premiere in comparison to Dr. Stone which had its series promoted on AmeTalk before its first volume came out. Zumo's rankings reflected it overall popularity.
I remember Hinomaru Zumo was pretty high in the TOC at first, but this never fits with the volume sales (which are pretty low). .
 

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I remember Hinomaru Zumo was pretty high in the TOC at first, but this never fits with the volume sales (which are pretty low). .
The first chapter ranked 1# I believe which the only other series to do that was Eyeshield 21 but yeah it was most in the lower middle to bottom after that through most of it run.
 

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Zumo got next to no promotion and color pages up until its anime premiere in comparison to Dr. Stone which had its series promoted on AmeTalk before its first volume came out. Zumo's rankings reflected it overall popularity.
Sumo consistently had some of the highest colour page counts in the magazine for the first 3 or so years of its serialisation. It even had the most one year iirc. Towards the end it was still getting a ton so it never really slowed down. Definitely a different situation to Stone, but it at least got plenty of CPs.

Found it interesting that it’s epilogue chapter got like 400k views and over 1000 comments in 24 hours. First real data we’ve seen outside of sales. People certainly read it, just never went out and bought it,
 

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TOC is late today I guess
 

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That TOC got deleted from Tieba just now.
 

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Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #47:
Chainsaw Man (Cover & LCP)
One Piece
Dr. STONE
The Promised Neverland (Break Next Issue)
Black Clover
ACT-AGE (CP)
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
My Hero Academia
Spy x Family (Special J+ Chapter, CP)
Mitama Security: Spirit Busters (1st Chapter & 2nd Chapter)
We Never Learn
Jujutsu Kaisen
Mission: Yozakura Family
Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Tokyo Shinobi Squad
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
Beast Children
Double Taisei
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #48:
Cover & LCP: Dr. STONE (Chapter + Reboot: Byakuya, Spin-Off Series)
CP: Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings, Haikyu!!, Tokyo Grind Horror Channel (One-Shot by Tadaichi Nakama)


 
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Guys, stop discussing fake info, full stop.
 

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Aaaand that placement for Yozakura makes a lot more sense.

Also, doesn't make a difference at this point, but Taisei last. :crying
 

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Oh shit, thats not as good as its previous placement lol, at least aint bottom 5, guess Yozakura still has some ways to go
Still waiting for that Chainsawman cover
 

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Ohhh Samurai 8 finally leaving the bottom, now we're talking, but sad with Yozakura-san being placed middle lower and also the lack of color page for S8....

Tokyo Grand Horror Channel is a one shot or a horror one shot festival?
 

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Ah, so that was fake? Shame, that one was honestly more interesting...
 

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KNY volumes 7, 8 and 10 are all under #200 on Shoseki Daily and volume 9 is already under #150. They might drop out of the top 500 anytime soon since the reprints for those volumes only go out on the 31st. KNY beat OP another day, by the way.

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #47:
Chainsaw Man (Cover & LCP)
One Piece
Dr. STONE
The Promised Neverland
Black Clover
ACT-AGE (CP)
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
My Hero Academia
Spy x Family (Special J+ Chapter, CP)
Mitama Security: Spirit Busters (1st Chapter)
We Never Learn
Jujutsu Kaisen
Mission: Yozakura Family
Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Tokyo Shinobi Squad
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
Beast Children
Double Taisei
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #48:
Cover & LCP: Dr. STONE
CP: Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings, Haikyu!!, Tokyo Grand Horror Channel
Yozakura is actually pretty low. Kinda surprised with KNY's placement.
 

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Oh no, Yozakura position :(

But dont give up YozakuraBros
 

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Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #47:
Chainsaw Man (Cover & LCP)
One Piece
Dr. STONE
The Promised Neverland
Black Clover
ACT-AGE (CP)
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
My Hero Academia
Spy x Family (Special J+ Chapter, CP)
Mitama Security: Spirit Busters (1st Chapter & 2nd Chapter)
We Never Learn
Jujutsu Kaisen
Mission: Yozakura Family
Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Tokyo Shinobi Squad
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
Beast Children
Double Taisei
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #48:
Cover & LCP: Dr. STONE
CP: Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings, Haikyu!!, Tokyo Grand Horror Channel (One-Shot by Tadaichi Nakama)
Dr Stone will have 2 chapters in 48 (1 normal + gaiden). 外伝同時連載
 
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