Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Halloween]

When the toc poll will get closed?

Which one? Favorite series of the week, or when I should create the next ToC thread?

 

[Tamil]

@Tamil thanks for the info, that's a very, very valuable post xD I wish there was an option to save posts here (Is it?)
Also, I'm not a native speaker, so when you said a Toei Shill... Is the person like a Toei employee (Like an insider)? Or a Toei supporter (Like someone who got paid to promote a good image for Toei on the internet)?

Np. I'm not sure if there's an option to save posts here but you can bookmark that MAL thread. I call him a Toei shill since he defends Toei so much that its unreal and he's actually a member in MH & even posted before in ToC threads but is not active member anymore. @Bigivelfhq is his username here.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Which one? Favorite series of the week, or when I should create the next ToC thread?

the first

 

[Halloween]

the first

Brandish answers that question in the topic itself. Every poll stays up until the next mangaplus release on Sunday. They'll always be week-round, Sunday to Sunday.

 

[Jovan]

So per TOC poll it is

1. Chainsaw Man
2. Act-Age
3. Jujutsu Kaisen
4. Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. The Promised Neverland
6. One Piece
7. My Hero Academia
8. Haikyuu
9. Black Clover
10. We Never Learn
11. Mitama Security
12. Dr. Stone
13. Samurai 8
14. Mission Yozakura Family
15. Double Taisei
16. Kamio Yui Lets Loose
17. 18. 19. 20. Tie between Yuuna, Beast Children, TSS and Dr. Stone Reboot.

Maybe we should have a new poll to decide to last 4 places since all have the same number of votes?

 

[Halloween]

Maybe we should have a new poll to decide to last 4 places since all have the same number of votes?

There's still time for more people to vote. And assuming it stays the same, I'm going to change my votes to break the tie.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

So per TOC poll it is

1. Chainsaw Man
2. Act-Age
3. Jujutsu Kaisen
4. Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. The Promised Neverland
6. One Piece
7. My Hero Academia
8. Haikyuu
9. Black Clover
10. We Never Learn
11. Mitama Security
12. Dr. Stone
13. Samurai 8
14. Mission Yozakura Family
15. Double Taisei
16. Kamio Yui Lets Loose
17. 18. 19. 20. Tie between Yuuna, Beast Children, TSS and Dr. Stone Reboot.

Maybe we should have a new poll to decide to last 4 places since all have the same number of votes?

Just put the most popular or oldest above.

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There's still time for more people to vote. And assuming it stays the same, I'm going to change my votes to break the tie.

This wouldn't be manipulation?

 

[Halloween]

This wouldn't be manipulation?

I don't consider it that way since BC and TSS are ending, and the Dr. Stone spin-off is only running for 8 chapters. It's purely for convenience sake.

There is another option, though. We just don't add series to the poll that we know for certain are going to be axed. I'm not completely sure on that, though.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I don't consider it that way since BC and TSS are ending, and the Dr. Stone spin-off is only running for 8 chapters. It's purely for convenience sake.

There is another option, though. We just don't add series to the poll that we know for certain are going to be axed. I'm not completely sure on that, though.

lol no, Taisei got 9 votes, just put in the order from oldest to new or something like that, for a time Black Clover and BNHA were also tied.

 

[Thores]

I don't consider it that way since BC and TSS are ending, and the Dr. Stone spin-off is only running for 8 chapters. It's purely for convenience sake.

There is another option, though. We just don't add series to the poll that we know for certain are going to be axed. I'm not completely sure on that, though.

I think it'd be nice to still be able to vote for series we know are going to be axed, even if it doesn't really effect the overall ranking. For example, if Double Taisei ends in a satisfying way this week, it'd be nice to able to "reward" it for doing so with a vote, and to see how high of a placing it can finish at.

Once we have more poll results, maybe you can break ties by giving the higher place to whichever series does better in the polls on average. That doesn't really work as a solution to the very first poll, though. At least this time the tie is between series that won't be in the magazine anymore when you implement the official ranking after 8 issues.

 

[Halloween]

I think it'd be nice to still be able to vote for series we know are going to be axed, even if it doesn't really effect the overall ranking. For example, if Double Taisei ends in a satisfying way this week, it'd be nice to able to "reward" it for doing so with a vote, and to see how high of a placing it can finish at.

I did say I wasn't sure about it. Honestly, thinking about it more, we probably should remove the option to change our votes, since they can't really do that in Japan.

We could do as Shinuki said and have age be the determining factor in the case of ties, just so long as everyone understands that thoroughly, and doesn't take it as a sign that a series is more popular or whatever.

 

[evielynn]

Not sure if anyone has posted this, but JJK got nominated for the Shogakukan Manga Award for Shonen for 2019.

決定!!第65回小学館漫画賞最終候補作!! | 小学館コミック

第65回（2019年度）小学館漫画賞ノミネート作品発表!! 第65回小学館漫画賞の候補作11作が決定!! 本

comics.shogakukan.co.jp

 

[Halloween]

Okay, guys, I just stumbled on something significant. I was looking at the poll creating options, and to my surprise, I discovered that there actually IS an option to hide the poll results.

So, I need to ask you guys a very important question. How authentic do you want these MH ToC polls to be? Do you want to see the votes week to week, or do you want it to be exactly like Japan, where the voters don't get to see the results until 8 weeks later.

 

[Ryuusei]

Okay, guys, I just stumbled on something significant. I was looking at the poll creating options, and to my surprise, I discovered that there actually IS an option to hide the poll results.

So, I need to ask you guys a very important question. How authentic do you want these MH ToC polls to be? Do you want to see the votes week to week, or do you want it to be exactly like Japan, where the voters don't get to see the results until 8 weeks later.

I'm leaning towards the hidden results. I think it would be more fun to get the results every week and obviously it would make it feel more like the actual thing.

 

[Halloween]

I'm leaning towards the hidden results. I think it would be more fun to get the results every week and obviously it would make it feel more like the actual thing.

Just so we're clear, we'd only start getting results from the 8th poll onward. It's too late to hide the first poll, but I can keep the results hidden for every poll after.

Actually, I should probably make a poll about this.

 

[Ryuusei]

Just so we're clear, we'd only start getting results from the 8th poll onward. It's too late to hide the first poll, but I can keep the results hidden for every poll after.

Actually, I should probably make a poll about this.

Oh yeah I got that, I meant it as in getting the results every week once the 8th week finally comes.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Okay, guys, I just stumbled on something significant. I was looking at the poll creating options, and to my surprise, I discovered that there actually IS an option to hide the poll results.

So, I need to ask you guys a very important question. How authentic do you want these MH ToC polls to be? Do you want to see the votes week to week, or do you want it to be exactly like Japan, where the voters don't get to see the results until 8 weeks later.

No, it would honestly make everything quite boring having to wait two months just to see the result of the poll.

 

[Halloween]

Oh yeah I got that, I meant it as in getting the results every week once the 8th week finally comes.

I agree with you. However, I'll leave this up to everyone to vote on.

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No, it would honestly make everything quite boring having to wait two months just to see the result of the poll.

True, however, it removes the element of surprise. If we're going for true authenticity, they should be hidden.

Right now, everyone knows exactly the order the ToC will be placed in when the 8th poll hits.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I agree with you. However, I'll leave this up to everyone to vote on.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 23, 2019, Original Post Date: Nov 23, 2019 ---

True, however, it removes the element of surprise. If we're going for true authenticity, they should be hidden.

Right now, everyone knows exactly the order the ToC will be placed in when the 8th poll hits.

I think most of the users who vote in the poll are more interested in voting and seeing how the chapters are doing in real time, not being able to see the results without voting is already something enticing but having to wait for 2 months just to see where a chapter of 8 weeks ago is placed without even knowing the total number of votes makes things boring

 

[evielynn]

I think the best choice would be to hide votes until the real ToC comes out, and reveal the week's standings then. Leaving it 8 weeks makes it way less investing. I doubt most people would even remember what they voted per week, since there'd have been 7 more polls in between.

edit: if this isnt an option, id go with the 8 weeks, then the unhidden poll as last choice.