Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[OtterBrigade]

Blue Flag is also a Viz Sig

 

[Koni]

漫画・マンガ・コミック 売上ランキングBEST500 12/8 漫画ランキング コミック売上BEST500【ワンパンマン21】

漫画・コミックの売上ランキングを日々更新！　詳細はISBNコード（13ケタの数字）でご確認願います。文庫はhttp://shoseki500.blog.shinobi.jp/に移転しました

shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com

Shoseki rankings for December 8, 2019. Last day of the week, so last day I'll be doing this since the weekly numbers will come out. Kind of curious as to if HeroAca may be pushing through it's initial shipment as well, or if One Punch Man just sold more. Who knows?

Shoseki Rankings for December 8 (Rank in parentheses was for December 7)
2 (1). Boku no Hero Academia V25
4 (3). Kimetsu no Yaiba V18
5 (5). World Trigger V21 (Jump SQ.)
-- something something Demon Demon Slayer Slayer backlogs ---
27 (10). Act-Age V9
29 (27). Jigokuraku V8 (Jump+)
30 (29). Sousei no Onmyouji V20 (Jump SQ.)
39 (42). Yuragi-sou V19
52 (53). Hinomaru V28
72 (68). Ao no Flag V7 (Jump+)
96 (83). BnHA Vigilante V8 (Jump+)
109 (112). Dosanko Gyaru V1 (Jump+)
158 (135). Boukyaku Battery V6 (Jump+)
324 (243). Shijinsou no Satsujin V1 (Jump+)
356 (209). Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui V3

 

[Thundercat27]

I say not having a thread is fair game...

do keep in mind that this is a simultaneous publication between jump+ and ribon


also...

To be bloody fair, the last thread for a specific female-oriented magazine was created 10 years ago.

 

[WyldViolet]

Medaka Box was a deconstruction by a known author. Wtf is with these Black Clover comparisons?

 

[Rain Spectre]

Have to say, it is VERY telling that Jump+ got above WSJ this year.

 

[Tamil]

Its well deserved, Jump+ has so many great titles. I find Jigokuraku alone to be better than the current titles in WSJ. I hope Jigokuraku was somewhere in the rankings.

Can someone share the full rankings?

 

[TJQ15]

Have to say, it is VERY telling that Jump+ got above WSJ this year.

Is that a magazine poll by the readship?

 

[Nemesis]

Is that a magazine poll by the readship?

I can't say for sure but both Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi and Kono Manga ga Sugoi are annual magazines of Takarajimasha and the first one is a mix of votes from the public and a jury.

"The specific formula used for calculating points varies each year, but the rankings take into account both the online poll results conducted in September every year as well as votes from "collaborators" (critics, influencers, and other people related to the light novel industry)."

So it's probably the same since it's a similar publication from the same publisher

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Have to say, it is VERY telling that Jump+ got above WSJ this year.

Other magazines should be above WSJ tbh, even from the same demography, like Shonen Magazine for example. XD

 

[Thundercat27]

Have to say, it is VERY telling that Jump+ got above WSJ this year.

Other magazines should be above WSJ tbh, even from the same demography, like Shonen Magazine for example. XD

They just divided it into male and female, no seinen or josei or kodomo or anything else.

The winner for male last year was Tengoku Daimakyou, a manga in Afternoon, iirc.

 

[Rain Spectre]

They just divided it into male and female, no seinen or josei or kodomo or anything else.

The winner for male last year was Tengoku Daimakyou, a manga in Afternoon, iirc.

Yep. Which is probably why the female readers section is more often than not series no one has heard of.

 

[Thundercat27]

Also, kono manga ga sugoi, just like its name, is more like a recommendation for new interesting manga (emphasis on interesting here), which not always align with the most commercial success one.
Here's the list for last year https://myanimelist.net/news/56445334
Witness it for yourself, not a single Jump or Jump plus title in the male list.

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My mistake, there is Jigokuraku in last year list.

 

[Nemesis]

They just divided it into male and female, no seinen or josei or kodomo or anything else.

The winner for male last year was Tengoku Daimakyou, a manga in Afternoon, iirc.

I know how it is. I meant that in the list of magazines, WSJ shouldn't be above WSM to me haha

 

[Thundercat27]

Also, kono manga ga sugoi, just like its name, is more like a recommendation for new interesting manga (emphasis on interesting here), which not always align with the most commercial success one.
Here's the list for last year https://myanimelist.net/news/56445334
Witness it for yourself, not a single Jump or Jump plus title in the male list.

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My mistake, there is Jigokuraku in last year list.

Also missing Astra, blimey.

I know how it is. I meant that in the list of magazines, WSJ shouldn't be above WSM to me haha

We still don't have the full list yet, as far as I know. So a WSM could rank no 3? Anyway, even when I prefer Harta and Afternoon stuff more than most shounen, I still think WSJ is much more interesting than WSM. I don't think anything in WSM is as interesting as CSM or Act-Age.

 

[Nemesis]

Also missing Astra, blimey.



We still don't have the full list yet, as far as I know. So a WSM could rank no 3? Anyway, even when I prefer Harta and Afternoon stuff more than most shounen, I still think WSJ is much more interesting than WSM. I don't think anything in WSM is as interesting as CSM or Act-Age.

WSM probably is on third, yeah. As far as interesting titles, I think Runway de Aratte is as interesting as Act-Age and Fumetsu as Chainsaw. haha But those come in the end from subjective views after all.

 

[MangAniMY]

last few years magazine for reference

2019

Kono Manga ga Sugoi! Reveals 2019's Top 20 Manga Magazine List

Afternoon, Flowers, Feel Young magazines top list // The 2019 edition of Takarajimasha's Kono Manga ga Sugoi! (This Manga Is Amazing!) guidebook announced...

www.animenewsnetwork.com

2018

Kono Manga ga Sugoi! Reveals 2018's Top 20 Manga Magazine List

Flowers, Shonen Jump, Be-Love top list // The 2018 edition of Takarajimasha's Kono Manga ga Sugoi! (This Manga Is Amazing!) guidebook is announcing its list...

www.animenewsnetwork.com

 

[Thundercat27]

WSM probably is on third, yeah. As far as interesting titles, I think Runway de Aratte is as interesting as Act-Age and Fumetsu as Chainsaw. haha But those come in the end from subjective views after all.

Still waiting for more Runway in English, but the current stuff in Act-Age is better than Runway best arc so far. Fumetsu has been a drag since the island arc and just got improved recently. Still has to be seen how the timeskip will affect the story. Meanwhile, I can't think of any reason to not recommending CSM beside gore and vulgar. Also, the gore in CSM is much more stylish, and not suddenly disappeared like in Fumetsu


Anyway, I hope our conversation is not too off-topic and got people read those manga just got mentioned.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Invade You! mangaka uploaded a one-shot of theirs on twitter.

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Act-Age's merch designs are truly on another level.

 

[revo68]

Shoseki Rankings 2/13 - 8/12

Weekly Shonen Jump
1 Kimetsu no Yaiba #18
2 My Hero Academia #25
7 act-age #09
36 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings #19
46 Hinomaru Zumo #28
165 Kamio Yui wa Kamio Yui #03

Jump+
26 Jigokuraku #08
59 Blue Flag #07
66 Vigilante My Hero Academia ILLEGALS #08
73 Dosanko Gal wa Namara Menkoi #01
101 Boukyaku Battery
222 Murders at the House of Death #01
497 Dorei Yuugi #10

Non December 4th Volumes (Top 100)
8 Kimetsu no Yaiba #16
9 Kimetsu no Yaiba #15
10 Kimetsu no Yaiba #14
11 Kimetsu no Yaiba #13
12 Kimetsu no Yaiba #12
14 Kimetsu no Yaiba #11
15 Kimetsu no Yaiba #10
16 Kimetsu no Yaiba #03
17 Kimetsu no Yaiba #01
18 Kimetsu no Yaiba #04
19 Kimetsu no Yaiba #02
20 Kimetsu no Yaiba #05
21 Kimetsu no Yaiba #09
22 Kimetsu no Yaiba #06
23 Kimetsu no Yaiba #07
24 Kimetsu no Yaiba #08
25 Kimetsu no Yaiba #17
30 Kimetsu no Yaiba Fanbook
57 Gotouge Koyoharu's Short Story Collection
64 Haikyuu!! #40
65 One Piece #94
81 The Promised Neverland #16
82 Dr. Stone #13
83 SPY×FAMILY #02
100 My Hero Acadmeia #24

82 Dr. Stone #13
141 Dr. Stone #13
207 Dr. Stone #10
211 Dr. Stone #11
214 Dr. Stone #09
219 Dr. Stone #08
246 Dr. Stone #07
281 Dr. Stone #01
298 Dr. Stone #02
307 Dr. Stone #03
316 Dr. Stone #04
320 Dr. Stone #06
339 Dr. Stone #05

2 My Hero Academia #25
100 My Hero Academia #24
169 My Hero Academia #23
254 My Hero Academia #22
256 My Hero Academia #01
265 My Hero Academia #02
274 My Hero Academia #03
278 My Hero Academia #21
303 My Hero Academia #20
306 My Hero Academia #18
322 My Hero Academia #19
324 My Hero Academia #17
370 My Hero Academia #16
406 My Hero Academia Fanbook
431 My Hero Academia #15
432 My Hero Academia #04
433 My Hero Academia #05
467 My Hero Academia #06

30位40300/50位20650/100位7500/200位3900/300位2900/400位2150/500位1750

 

[Rain Spectre]

Kento Matsuura's sendoff tweet for TSS.

 

[animeexpert]

I want a manga in WSJ which will have the MC's as soldiers or in special ops,kind of like in FMA and Shingeki no Kyojin.

I really loving read Military fiction.

If the writer is a genius, sure. Otherwise its gonna end like the

Did you forget to take off your VR Headset cause I dont know which reality youre living in when BLack Clover is just as popular as ever.

Week after week Tabata is raising the bar on storytelling mastery and fans are loving it more and more.

BLack Clover is is alive and thriving.

Bro, you can say that to EVERY manga that is/was more populair than Black clover but look what happend to those. Look at the numbers and stop being in denial, You cant predict the future, stop bandwagon smh clown... I'm only worried about tabata success for long activity

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The true manga that is killing its own manga is HeroAca, bringing charas from a spinoff into canon at such a late point in a series life, what a noob move. Awful.

That's like.. your opinion, if it works and many fans are happy. Than it's not "killing ur own manga"