Discussion Adori theory

[Jammin]

Lot of unknowns about everything. That's for sure. However this whole conversations is floating further and further offtopic.

This is about Adori and Baam.

 

[Ripcord]

Lot of unknowns about everything. That's for sure. However this whole conversations is floating further and further offtopic.

This is about Adori and Baam.

Probably because there are so many unknowns as you said.

If you look at it, so far Bam has attracted Yuri, Androssi, Anak (not as overt but cmon she’s on his side), Elaine (unconfirmed but as long as FUG set her free/treated her well she’s pro-Bam), Garam, Repelista (probably... she did help Yuri find Bam after all), Maschenny (stretch, but likely since she helped Jinsung get to Kallavan).

So far the only princesses in the anti-Bam column are the Lo-Po-Bia twins, so it seems likely Adori will fall for Bam. So far all owners of 13 months have gone for Bam.

I would love to see Adori this arc but she’s such a heavy hitter I expect her to show up in this arc only as a cameo (like Gustang in the Workshop arc) and not be directly involved or at least not directly with Bam just yet.

 

[Vitala]

If people on this forum were in SIU place, This story will look like a 12 years old story with just harem everywhere, i don't see why people would love to see adori on baam side when we already know enne will be on baam side and that she is the only princess who can fight adori who is Zahard sword, people just want every princesses in the tower to be on baam side, what kind of story will it be?

 

[darkraoul]

If people on this forum were in SIU place, This story will look like a 12 years old story with just harem everywhere, i don't see why people would love to see adori on baam side when we already know enne will be on baam side and that she is the only princess who can fight adori who is Zahard sword, people just want every princesses in the tower to be on baam side, what kind of story will it be?

Siu already said it would be one and that he will break alot of girls hearts

 

[Arjuna]

I just realized something

Adori is ranked 7th in the Ranker positions,even above some of the Family Heads.

She is tied with Eurasia Zahard,who was the child of two family heads.So do you think Adori is also a child of two family heads?

 

[kkck]

At the moment it's anyone's guess as we have no context regarding her. At the most the series has hinted at her having pink hair iirc but that is a trait that applies to a number of people. Dowon's family, the eurasia... Her bloodline is probably important as bloodlines are significant when it comes to the ability to control shinsoo but on the other hand we can't rule she simply being a natural born tower resident who simply happened to be born with this potential. After all, we know tower residents can acquire insane power even without a connection to the noble families. We can't even rule out her being born out of shinsoo deprived normies who simply happened to have a mutant for a child.

 

[Ripcord]

At the moment it's anyone's guess as we have no context regarding her. At the most the series has hinted at her having pink hair iirc but that is a trait that applies to a number of people. Dowon's family, the eurasia... Her bloodline is probably important as bloodlines are significant when it comes to the ability to control shinsoo but on the other hand we can't rule she simply being a natural born tower resident who simply happened to be born with this potential. After all, we know tower residents can acquire insane power even without a connection to the noble families. We can't even rule out her being born out of shinsoo deprived normies who simply happened to have a mutant for a child.

Don’t you think that Dowon is probably from a branch of the Eurasia family?

and I thought Adori wasn’t from a Great Family

 

[toil]

She is tied with Eurasia Zahard,who was the child of two family heads.So do you think Adori is also a child of two family heads?

Reasonable guess from what we know, though obviously "whose?" is then the question.

She's confusing, too, because SIU dumped a lot of lore about her outside the comic, but only very little in the comic. So there's a lot of things we think we kinda know that could turn out to be no longer operative.

 

[Arjuna]

Don’t you think that Dowon is probably from a branch of the Eurasia family?

and I thought Adori wasn’t from a Great Family

Is it confirmed though that all pink haired characters are from the Eurasia family?


Don't know why Adori gives the air of the Ten Great Families.


Now the question is if she is indeed from the great families who are her parents?

 

[Ripcord]

Is it confirmed though that all pink haired characters are from the Eurasia family?


Don't know why Adori gives the air of the Ten Great Families.


Now the question is if she is indeed from the great families who are her parents?

No it hasn’t been confirmed. Hana Yu had pink hair right? And she’s pretty useless.

Still Dowon is a gifted wave controller with pink hair. I think this may actually be connected with Irure, since she wanted Bam to accomplish a certain thing. Maybe she will show up soon.

 

[toil]

I think this may actually be connected with Irure, since she wanted Bam to accomplish a certain thing. Maybe she will show up soon.

I like this idea: their branch family had a dream, maybe that dream is related to Dowon.

 

[Arjuna]

She became this strong through pure talent from what it seems,no family connection.

 

[Ripcord]

She became this strong through pure talent from what it seems,no family connection.

Kinda weird though. TOG is pretty much all about talent and lineage, there isn’t much room for Rock Lee types.

 

[Arjuna]

Kinda weird though. TOG is pretty much all about talent and lineage, there isn’t much room for Rock Lee types.

Baek Ryun?As far as we know he isn't also from any big family but he is a top 10 Ranker.

 

[Ripcord]

Baek Ryun?As far as we know he isn't also from any big family but he is a top 10 Ranker.

My bet is that he has the power of an ancient but Khel Hellam had the ability I thought Baek would have.
But that is a good example as far as we know.

 

[Arjuna]

My bet is that he has the power of an ancient but Khel Hellam had the ability I thought Baek would have.
But that is a good example as far as we know.

True it's mysterious so we can only speculate.

 

[kkck]

Baek Ryun?As far as we know he isn't also from any big family but he is a top 10 Ranker.

That is different from a rock lee type. The series stresses that controlling shinsoo is about talent which is innate to the user since birth. The series has yet to evidence and exception in that regard. Nobles and other special families simply have a higher chance of being born with the talent to control shinsoo. And outside of that you can have lineages that become stronger over time (which is more or less kallavan's situation considering how it was described) and I presume there is a chance, however minuscule, that you could be born with a strong aptitude for shinsoo while not being from a strong lineage.... Though this is probably about as likely as winning the lottery... twice.

There is no scenario, so far, where someone who lacks an aptitude for shinsoo is able to become genuinely powerful through sheer hard work. And at least based on how the series has described this.... its an impossible scenario. This was a bit of a plot point in season 1 when ho betrayed and tried to kill bam. Ho genuinely tried to get good at shinsoo but simply didn't have the aptitude for it. It's the reason why bam with half assed advise from laure was able to do in an instant far more than what ho ever did in spite of the fact that bam did no work and ho really tried for however long his life lasted.

 

[Arjuna]

That is different from a rock lee type. The series stresses that controlling shinsoo is about talent which is innate to the user since birth. The series has yet to evidence and exception in that regard. Nobles and other special families simply have a higher chance of being born with the talent to control shinsoo. And outside of that you can have lineages that become stronger over time (which is more or less kallavan's situation considering how it was described) and I presume there is a chance, however minuscule, that you could be born with a strong aptitude for shinsoo while not being from a strong lineage.... Though this is probably about as likely as winning the lottery... twice.

There is no scenario, so far, where someone who lacks an aptitude for shinsoo is able to become genuinely powerful through sheer hard work. And at least based on how the series has described this.... its an impossible scenario. This was a bit of a plot point in season 1 when ho betrayed and tried to kill bam. Ho genuinely tried to get good at shinsoo but simply didn't have the aptitude for it. It's the reason why bam with half assed advise from laure was able to do in an instant far more than what ho ever did in spite of the fact that bam did no work and ho really tried for however long his life lasted.

I wasn't considering that too,maybe you are right.

Wish we see Adori soon.



Though will prefer we see someone actually appears who become strong through sheer hardwork,not by lineage.

 

[kkck]

I wasn't considering that too,maybe you are right.

Wish we see Adori soon.

Though will prefer we see someone actually apperas who become strong through sheer hardwork,not by lineage.

TBH, the series would largely be better if hard work could factor in somewhere. With the way things are in the series what we ultimately see is privileged people who did nothing for their power duke it out with other privileged people who also did nothing for their power. Bam falls within this as well. Granted that there are times where this context plays out well as things really have a nice and disturbing undertone.

 

[Ripcord]

TBH, the series would largely be better if hard work could factor in somewhere. With the way things are in the series what we ultimately see is privileged people who did nothing for their power duke it out with other privileged people who also did nothing for their power. Bam falls within this as well. Granted that there are times where this context plays out well as things really have a nice and disturbing undertone.

I think it depends on the story. SIU has been fairly consistent in this regard, that those with talent have more strength. Still the debate in the manwah is there: Gustang says anyone without the talent of the irregulars is trash vs Urek who says everyone matters. That of course is a softer version of the V versus Zahard debate.

And hard work is in there. Ran and Anak have talent, but they had to work hard to hone their talent. You can take a bad steak and make it taste OK and a great steak and it’ll taste amazing but it’s pretty easy to take a great steak and it taste horrible. The steak meat quality is the talent in ToG and the cooking is the hard work.

It’s like this: not everyone will be an astronaut, but the dude who turns the bolts on the rocket have value just like the astronauts do. Likely both of them had to work hard to succeed in what they do. This is the perspective SIU is trying to build. We don’t all have to be astronauts to matter, and it’s totally ok that everyone isn’t an astronaut.
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