I hope the fact that Arlene couldn't protect her baby from Jahad does not make anyone think she could not protect herself from Jahad as well. Jahad would have to be very overpowering to even consider raping another irregular a possibility. Or that the other irregulars would allow it. As it stands, I don't think Jahad is that strong to rape Arlene.
I hope the fact that Arlene couldn't protect her baby from Jahad does not make anyone think she could not protect herself from Jahad as well. Jahad would have to be very overpowering to even consider raping another irregular a possibility. Or that the other irregulars would allow it. As it stands, I don't think Jahad is that strong to rape Arlene.
Sowo and Kehlham are from the wall and want to protect their respected sides of the wall. I do not like what SIU is pulling here.
How about the 2 new spears for Rak, left over from Kehlman and Toro's deaths
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I'm guessing Yama wasn't really making madd dogs but instead he was breeding dogs that cannot be affected by Doom's fang, Vargarb is his first success.
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And who is the character to the far right of Paul on the last panel?
We recently saw that, according to Kallavan, the old rankers used Shinsoo more appropriately for their attributes (like Eduan's hidden floor training), so hopefully, given their appearance, Cha will show us how genesis reinforcers act . Imagine Yuri or Androssi learning from such a monster.
The Lo Po Bia family makes me more confused with every member that appears. Apparently everyone in the 5th division who belongs to this family is from the Yas branch and everyone shares the animalistic look of a cat, but compared to Kaiser, who even remembering quite a wolf, she does not have such strong characteristics. Not to mention the twins, who look nothing, so I wonder if Yasratcha has done any experimentation with the members of his branch as well, assuming, of course, that he is the head of this branch, which is all it seems.
Another important point imo is that once Bam's crew gets their hands on Cha and Dowon, It becomes automatically stronger than both Cage and Karakka's horde. Get this and the ability to fight Kallavan solo, and Bam is the strongest Slayer sect from Active ones at least.
Another important point imo is that once Bam's crew gets their hands on Cha and Dowon, It becomes automatically stronger than both Cage and Karakka's horde. Get this and the ability to fight Kallavan solo, and Bam is the strongest Slayer sect from Active ones at least.
To be fair - it would be nice if a winner would attach himself or herself to Baam. Cha looks promising but is so new. Urek is still doing the arms-length relationship thing.
SIU has turned most of FUG into a group of misunderstood slayers/guides/elders. Besides White and the old Karaka, it seems everyone has good intentions but their actions are interpreted negatively. FUG wants to seem big and bad but their all big softies at heart
Enryu defeated a floor administrator though and was able to exit the tower, which is a significant feat. Also, he's an Axis, which isn't mentioned much anymore.
Jahad made a contract to be king of the tower and stop all continued climbing, which is a significant feat too.
Enryu should be Universe Level
Jahad Planet Level
Then FH's
Urek in between Jahad and FH's?
Yo what?
Universal enryu? How?
Planetary jahad? How did u even come to that conclusion? What's feats does jahad have to puts him at planet level?
Enryu is like at least multicontinental(going by his feats of slaying a guardian[who can control multicontinental sized floors] and surface wiping the floor of death during their battle).
Mind explaining planet level jahad?
Yo what?
Universal enryu? How?
Planetary jahad? How did u even come to that conclusion? What's feats does jahad have to puts him at planet level?
Enryu is like at least multicontinental(going by his feats of slaying a guardian[who can control multicontinental sized floors] and surface wiping the floor of death during their battle).
Mind explaining planet level jahad?
I don’t care what the level is called all I’m saying is Jahad is above all FH’s. He’s King of the tower 1, his blood creates Princesses of Jahad 2, and because of him no one can continue to climb the tower past the 144th floor 3.
Another important point imo is that once Bam's crew gets their hands on Cha and Dowon, It becomes automatically stronger than both Cage and Karakka's horde. Get this and the ability to fight Kallavan solo, and Bam is the strongest Slayer sect from Active ones at least.
I can't see how Cha and Dowon integrate with bam's crew, especially if Bam's crew keeps climbing the Tower. They would have to split up with Bam, Khune and Rak taking lessons from Evankhell, Yuhansung, Dowon etc, while coming out sporadically to take tests. Problem is that Bam's crew would be mercilessly attack by Zahard's forces from here on and most of them are way too weak to hold up
I don’t care what the level is called all I’m saying is Jahad is above all FH’s. He’s King of the tower 1, his blood creates Princesses of Jahad 2, and because of him no one can continue to climb the tower past the 144th floor 3.
V committed suicide which means Zahard was not so strong as to DOMINATE over his peers. We know V didn’t have a contract so if they fought and Zahard was so much stronger why could he not kill V?
It comes down to Zahards power being both granted by administrator privilege and political/fame. Zahard is not some super powered beast in comparison to his peers. He’s just the one who gave up everything in order to be “King”..... He may be the strongest of the bunch but you’re exaggerating if you think he’s WAY more powerful.
I think you should make a difference between the Zahard that was climbing and the Zahard that is the king. The climbing guy was the strongest among equals. Maybe matched by V. The current king might be enormously stronger than the rest just based on the contracts he got from being named king of the tower by the administrators. He might not even be a person with a real body anymore and have ascended to a higher plane of sort. We dont know. But there must be a reason why he is sending minions to deal with someone as important as Baam instead of going himself and have a 100% success rate.
All I know is that this chat about his younger self being a decent person reminds a lot of Darth Vader. He is a grey character, corrupted by bad things that happened to him but he couldn't handle. At some point we Will know his story and to an extent It Will be relatable. Probably the Red tentacle thing inside of him had a role in "giving him the push into the abyss". But the fact Bam didn't hate Rachel even when she tried to kill him while Jahad became resentfull Will be the reason Bam is better than him and deserving to end his Empire.
Enryu defeated a floor administrator though and was able to exit the tower, which is a significant feat. Also, he's an Axis, which isn't mentioned much anymore.
Jahad made a contract to be king of the tower and stop all continued climbing, which is a significant feat too.
Enryu should be Universe Level
Jahad Planet Level
Then FH's
Urek in between Jahad and FH's?
Nope Enryu is not an Axis. Only phantaminum, Enryu is a god messenger not a god. An Urek became a ranker in 50 years and when he reached 100th floor he took Arie Hon test and was already stronger its not a significant feat? just imagine his power using shinwonryu
I think you should make a difference between the Zahard that was climbing and the Zahard that is the king. The climbing guy was the strongest among equals. Maybe matched by V. The current king might be enormously stronger than the rest just based on the contracts he got from being named king of the tower by the administrators. He might not even be a person with a real body anymore and have ascended to a higher plane of sort. We dont know. But there must be a reason why he is sending minions to deal with someone as important as Baam instead of going himself and have a 100% success rate.
Because he still can’t do what the admins don’t ALLOW.... He cannot just warp to Baam and kill him. Baam is a regular therefor is protected by the rules of the tower and admins...
Haven’t you seen in the last 30 chapters or so it being said multiple times “can’t release too much power or the administrators will interfere...” This applies to anybody not strong enough to kill an admin or anybody who isnt an axis...
That is why Zahard has “minions” and no matter his contracts he’s still BELOW Enryu no matter how it’s sliced, and Enryu isn’t even an axis.
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Zahard is NO god.... He wishes he were though. I guarantee you that!
Gathering around Baam has been the inevitability since he got caught in FUG’s plans.
White will have his moment within the new FUG but if I’m being honest he over estimates himself far too much. Gustang showed he’ll be a bug not matter how much he desires to ascend.
Because he still can’t do what the admins don’t ALLOW.... He cannot just warp to Baam and kill him. Baam is a regular therefor is protected by the rules of the tower and admins...
Haven’t you seen in the last 30 chapters or so it being said multiple times “can’t release too much power or the administrators will interfere...” This applies to anybody not strong enough to kill an admin or anybody who isnt an axis...
That is why Zahard has “minions” and no matter his contracts he’s still BELOW Enryu no matter how it’s sliced, and Enryu isn’t even an axis.
100% agree that Enryu is more powerful than Zahard - at least the Enryu that fought on the FoD. There's a distinct possibility he was de-powered, died, shot his load, or was sealed in thorn (or made into it), or any other possibility that makes him a fraction of his former self (why he's in hiding or didn't go after Zahard directly).
That said, why can't Zahard do whatever he wants? He is, after all, king of the tower. Why can't he teleport to any floor exactly? What rule prevents that? Why can't he fight Baam in any environment like any other ranker that fights Baam? Particularly when Baam side-steps the safety of being a regular by being in certain areas or going extracurricular on the floor. At the very least admin have turned a blind eye to rankers fighting Baam even if that's somehow in violation of the rules - though that doesn't seem to be the case depending on the area of the floor.
Seems if Zahard was going to kill Baam he'd do it while he is still weak enough that Zahard DOESN'T have to exert enough power to gain the attention of the floor admin, if the admin would even worry about a tower king doing tower king things (he probably gets certain latitudes other tower inhabitants don't get, ranker or not)?
There has to be some other reason - Zahard isn't 'complete' or cannot move or something we can't even imagine.
We know Zahard himself went to go fight a younger Khell to shut him down. So what is preventing him from taking on this new upstart in Baam?
100% agree that Enryu is more powerful than Zahard - at least the Enryu that fought on the FoD. There's a distinct possibility he was de-powered, died, shot his load, or was sealed in thorn (or made into it), or any other possibility that makes him a fraction of his former self (why he's in hiding or didn't go after Zahard directly).
That said, why can't Zahard do whatever he wants? He is, after all, king of the tower. Why can't he teleport to any floor exactly? What rule prevents that? Why can't he fight Baam in any environment like any other ranker that fights Baam? Particularly when Baam side-steps the safety of being a regular by being in certain areas or going extracurricular on the floor. At the very least admin have turned a blind eye to rankers fighting Baam even if that's somehow in violation of the rules - though that doesn't seem to be the case depending on the area of the floor.
Seems if Zahard was going to kill Baam he'd do it while he is still weak enough that Zahard DOESN'T have to exert enough power to gain the attention of the floor admin, if the admin would even worry about a tower king doing tower king things (he probably gets certain latitudes other tower inhabitants don't get, ranker or not)?
There has to be some other reason - Zahard isn't 'complete' or cannot move or something we can't even imagine.
We know Zahard himself went to go fight a younger Khell to shut him down. So what is preventing him from taking on this new upstart in Baam?
I mean, I’ve already answered that he is still under the power of the admins...
He is a “king” but not a god....
It is probably the same reason he has “princes” and “princesses” to enforce his will and directive where he cannot just appear...
Phanta and Enryu being the only two who can disobey an admin.
Enryu had a specific mission and he completed its initial stages. He has no side in the war. He is following the behest of his god.
I suspect you know all this already. So what are you really asking?
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Jubei if he “fought Khell” he wouldn’t be alive. He merely showed him he was so far below him and his schemes elementary.
I doubt he exerted any actual power. Khell didn’t live at the wall so how are you aware of which floor he encountered Zahard on? Or Khell being a RANKER instead of a REGULAR being the difference in his appearance.
Baam isn’t side skirting anything he has the obviously explicit help of Evenkhells admin..
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He has tried to kill Baam, once in the presence of his mother (Arlene) and again as he encountered him on the Data Floor. It was then he issued the station orders!
You and I both know if he could he would, so whether due to contracts, regulars admin protection, or for some other ambiguous reason. Does it matter? We know in regards to Baam’s story he said if “he’s worthy he’ll stand before me” which indicates Zahard will do all in his power to prevent that. If Zahard cannot prevent Baam from reaching him then he is “worthy”....
The reason matters not, only what Zahard is going to do to prevent Baam from climbing. Save for Zahard appearing before him because it is apparent he cannot.
I think this is due to the fact that he could not control them. As it seems there are more than Karaka and Wangnan with the appearance of “Boss”... Yet, Boss (like modern Wangnan and Karaka) isn’t explicitly acting in “Zahards” interest. Which was probably their purpose, being that Zahard could neither control nor trust them he banished them as “failures”...
It would seem Zahard expected them to be extensions of himself, yet he bore entirely new entities with motives all their own...
with portions of his powers!!!! Would be deemed a failure.
Could the sin be as part of his admin contract he can’t have descendants? Yet, He circumvented that?
“Sin” in the tower isn’t stuff like murder, deceit etc... That is the way of the tower! It has to be a taboo against the Tower to be considered a sin...
