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Is this theory or from Oda?
It's not from Oda. Don't get caught up here it's just a theory and despite including pictures and lots of references to real mythologies, it's not well made but borderline fanfiction and might include deliberate misinformation.
 

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It's not from Oda. Don't get caught up here it's just a theory and despite including pictures and lots of references to real mythologies, it's not well made but borderline fanfiction and might include deliberate misinformation.

Not a theory. It's just an analysis. And it's not a fanfiction! Because it's real! So those are spoilers for Elbaf arc!
 

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Tenguyama Hitetsu is of the same race as king

There may even be a further connection to them

They have similar features: large wings, they both wears masks, have similar eyes, both carry swords

When the anime opening showed King with white wings, it was a miscommunication between with the animation team, which accidentally spoiled something
 

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As you all know that, this is my only one and BIG BANG THEORY about the whole history of One Piece.

To know all these things, that happened back then, we have to travel back into time...





BY 5000 YEARS.



Laugh Tale/Raftel - The Original Place of the Ancient Kingdom​


Long ago, on a far away kingdom, there were been 3 brothers. The 3 brothers had to accomplish an ordeal, which was made by their father, the old king of the Ancient Kingdom.

Just like in Naruto, the story about Hagoromo, who was had to give to his sons an ordeal, to decide, which one of the brothers would deserve that power. And exactly this was in One Piece too.

And when the king of the A.K. was made up his mind, he was chosen his middle son as the true inheritor of the Ancient Kingdom.

Because the youngest one was been too immature to lead a kingdom. And the king was known that his 1st son was hungered for the power.

And the king was had to resign of the throne due to the fact that he was old and sick. And this is why he's chosen his middle son, because he was had everything, that a true king needed:



  • Wisdom
  • Kindness
  • Courage
  • Honor
  • And Altruism.


But before the crowning ceremony would have been happened, the Eldest brother was planned a coup d'etait by killing his father (he poisoned him) and when the inheritor was been hurrying for the aid of his father, the Eldest brother was ambushed him, and beaten him to death. That nobody was seen it coming, except the youngest brother, who was been watching it over from the background.

So Oda was inspired by many events of the Holy Bible. Such events, as Cain killed Abel.


Cain kills Abel - This one's happened on Laugh Tale/Raftel too.
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So back to the crowning ceremony, the Eldest brother was crowned himself, as the next throne inheritor of the Ancient Kingdom. And he's bought the people for himself by his great acting skills.

During the ceremony, the Middle brother was warned the youngest brother with these words:




"Run. As fast as you can. Because our brother was completely lost his mind. He's totally insane. So leave this island with my people, ASAP. AND NEVER. EVER LOOK BACK!"



And this moment was been that moment, when somebody was promised to carry the other's will. And this is how the WILL OF D. was begun. Not to mention about that, he was even married to the wife of his brother. And he's (SETH) done it for the sake of his dying brother's last wish.

The Will of D. means a "Destiny" signed by God/Fate to fulfill it. Since God means DEUS in latin, DON in Spanish and DOM in Italian and the Deus Ex Machina means interruption by God.


So the Youngest brother was been about to expose his eldest brother, but he was already bought that story to the people of the A.K. that, the youngest brother was the responsible for everything.

He was even blamed the youngest brother for burning the entire city up, however the Eldest Brother did.



Roman Emperor Nero burns Rome up - He was blamed the christians for this.​


And then the king was taken everything to clean the world of the scum. In other words, the Youngest brother, the true inheritor of the throne.

So this moment was like the antithesis of Moses and Ramses, because Ramses was chased Moses and the jewish people back then. And as Moses, the youngest brother was the 1st one to hear the voice of all things during his dream. Just the way as Moses met with God himself.




Moses meets God - In the universe of One Piece, the Youngest brother had such vision like this, but he had seen the whole city burning, just like everyone and then he was heard the voice of the bush crying for help.​





So the chase was been lasting for 40 days without eat, drink and sleep. Only his followers were allowed to do these things. And the youngest brother prayed to lose the mad king and his foolish followers, and then his prayers were found listening. No wonder, why the ancient gods were punished the land of the ancient kingdom by making it disappear from the land surround it by a lot of mysterious weathers, like fogs, devastating vortexes and disappearing seas.







Moses separates the water by the request of God - This also happened during the great chase in One Piece, but here, the gods were angry and disappointed in the Ancient Kingdom. So the Ancient Gods made the whole island deceased from the world map.







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And in addition, they were been travelling the whole word in an arc, which was NOAH in fact. So the recordings are fake from King Neptune, because they don't know anything about the Ancient Kingdom at all and the real history!


Ark NOAH. Which was carrying the Youngest Brother and his followers till the Red Line.




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When they were lost the deadly army, then they were been sailing over 20 years in plus. And the arc was smashed into a huge, red rock. Which was caused its sinking deep down to 10,000 meter depth in the sea. The Youngest Brother was too old and tired to guide his people up to the huge, red hills. So his sons promised him that, they will do everything besides of him. And then the youngest brother died happily finding peace in the enormous sinking ark.






Moses guides the jewish people till the Mountains of Sion - So the Youngest brother guided the remained people till the border of Red Line
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Oda is often used to copy the real history into the Universe of One Piece, so don't be surprised on it, why did he put so much elements of the Holy Bible itself.



Just like, when the People have climbed up the Red Line, they were finally found a new home straight on the Grand Line, which was called...





THE HOLY LAND.
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Here the people could have done anything, they wanted to. Till that day, when the Ancient Kingdom have finally sieged the Holyland.





They have made the 1st poneglyphs by the time. Anyway, the Poneglyphs are the mixture of the Hieroglyphs and the 10 Commandments.




Hieroglyphs



The 10 Commandments
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Sadly, the first Poneglyphs were so instable, that they were lost till the era of Joyboy.



In the Void Century, there were 3 kings, who've visited a place within the Holy Land, to wonder the boy who was born in a barn. That was JOYBOY.



Joyboy was a young, zealous boy with the will of D. who was done enough pranks and fooled a lot of people. However, he was befriended with a Saint (Saint John, the christening), who was taught Joyboy and he gave everything to him to teach people wisely. Unfortunately he was caught by the Soldiers of the Ancient Kingdom and he was watching over his execution. As we know that, in the bible, "John" was beheaded. And Joyboy was about to teach people for everything that he learnt from that Saint.



Later, exactly when he was in his 30s, he had 12 disciples already (From all around the world - Even from the Fishmen Island too). Each disciples had the will of D. since they were formed the will of God, the Destiny by fate in different ways.



And before the day of the great battle, Joyboy was holding a last dinner for his disciples to explain everything.



The Last Dinner - "Joyboy's" Great plan to his disciples.
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Joyboy has done a final test to his disciples - There was also a mermaid among the disciples too! Who was actually one of the Ancient Weapons - THE POSSIEDON. Yes! This Mermaid Princess was with the same age as Joyboy, and she was moulted her flippers. The Mermaid Princess could have been similar to Mariah Magdalena, who was the wife of Jesus in secret. So did the Mermaid Princess do of Joyboy.



And during the final test in the last dinner, Joyboy has realized that, one of his disciples will betray him and he and the army of the Ancient Kingdom will come for him and capture him.



The other disciples were both laughed and shocked on this.



The descendant of the Eldest Brother was finally reached the rocks of the Red Line and he was been using the 2 other Ancient Weapons, the Pluton and the Uranus.
The kingdom of the Holyland was had the secret ancient weapon, the Posseidon and the so called DEVIL FRUITS.
They were almost won this battle over this 600 years, but as Joyboy said that, one of the Disciples will betray him with the other disciples.



Because the Void Century was been lasting for 600 years, just like the Crusader wars.


The Crusader Wars - As we know that both in the history and in the OPU was been for the reason of sieging the holyland.

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The crusades were a series of religious wars in western Asia and Europe initiated, supported and sometimes directed by the Catholic Church between the 11th and the 17th century. The crusades differed from other religious conflicts in that they were considered a penance by the participants that brought forgiveness for confessed sin. The scope of the crusades is debated: some historians restrict it to armed pilgrimages to Jerusalem, others expand it to all Catholic military campaigns with a promise of spiritual benefits, or to all Catholic "holy wars" or those with the main characteristic of religious fervour. The best-known crusades are those fought against the Muslims of the eastern Mediterranean for the Holy Land between 1096 and 1271. Crusades were also fought from the 12th century against the Iberian Moors, the Ottoman Empire and for a variety of other reasons. These included fighting pagans, the suppression of heresy and the resolution of conflict between Catholic groups.

In 1095 Pope Urban II proclaimed the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont. He encouraged military support for the Byzantine Emperor Alexios I against the Seljuk Turks and an armed pilgrimage to Jerusalem. The enthusiastic response across all social strata in western Europe established a precedent. Volunteers became crusaders by taking a public vow for various reasons: mass ascension into Heaven at Jerusalem, satisfying feudal obligations, the opportunity for glory and honour, or for economic and political gain. Four Crusader states were established, generally known collectively as the Outremer: the County of Edessa, the Principality of Antioch, the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the County of Tripoli. The crusaders were eventually pushed back, and after a mainland presence of nearly two centuries, the last city Acre fell in 1291.

The Reconquista, the struggle between the Christians and Muslims in the Iberian Peninsula, was proclaimed a crusade in 1123 and ended with the fall of Emirate of Granada in 1492. The Northern Crusades that brought the pagan tribes of north-eastern Europe under Christian German, Danish or Swedish control were considered crusades from 1147. Pope Innocent III began the practice of the papacy proclaiming political crusades against disobedient Christian rulers in 1199. From 1208 in Languedoc, crusading was used against heretics. This continued in Savoy and Bohemia in the 15th century and against Protestants in the 16th century. Crusading was used in response to the rise of the Ottoman Empire in the mid-14th century, only ending with the War of the Holy League in 1699.

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And in the 200 years exactly 20 kings were fought in that crusader wars!

  • Saint Bernat of Clairvaux
  • French King Louis VII.
  • I. "Redbeard" Frederick
  • Austrian Prince Henry II.
  • German-Roman Emperor "Barbarossa" Frederick I.
  • French King Philip August II.
  • English King "Lionheart" Richard I.
  • German-Roman Emperor VI. Henry
  • Austrian Prince Leopold V.
  • Hungarian King Andrew II.
  • Austrian Prince Leopold VI.
  • Emperor Frederick II.
  • French King "Saint" Louis IX.
  • Sicillian King Charles I.
  • And more!




1099 the Siege of Jerusalem began as largely French forces waged the First Crusade. Jerusalem was captured and the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem was born.​









So these kings were portrayed those 20 kings from each lands! Because the current King was pleased every Kingdom to take back the Holyland that is rightfully theirs.

So back in the great battle, The Descendant of the Eldest Brother found the Holyland, and then the traitor disciple was led the way to capture Joyboy.



The betrayal of "JOYBOY'S" disciple






"Joyboy's" Trial in front of the 20 kings - The sentence is: DEATH BY CROSS.



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As they have spoken everything, the Disciples were had to run away. But the Princess was about to see Joyboy once again, but she had to run. Which was forced her to stay deep down in the sea in 30,000 feet deep. Joyboy was made a promise to her, that he will take her and her people up to the surface and live a happy life together, but when she heard that Joyboy was died on a cross, not so far from the Holyland, she was been so sad that she was almost destroyed the whole Sea Dragon Castle on the Fishmen Island and caused so many destructions by the sea kings!



Meanwhile the victory of the Ancient Kingdom, the Traitor was wanted to reach into the kings' favors by giving Devil Fruits as a gift. The Kings were refused the offer, but the Traitor was holding a demo for them. And they have desired to have such powers like this. However, this traitor, who betrayed Joyboy, was gone too far by eating too many DFs at once and this caused the final nail into his coffin. In other words, he committed suicidal by this, Just the way like Judas did when he realized that he betrayed Jesus after Jesus died. And he was hanged himself up onto the nearest branch.



So this ancestor was the ancestor of MARSHALL D. TEACH. KNOWN AS...



BLACKBEARD.



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And the Ancestor knew that place of these DFs because he was the one who known the most, but since he's died by the gluttony, those kings were rather frightened on the scene, as the Ancestor was crying for death and crumbled like a statue into a million pieces.

So the origins of the Devil Fruits are portrayed by Tree Methuselah:

This tree exists in the real world too, however this Tree in One Piece is connected with all the waters in the world (Rivers, Lakes, Fountains, Seas, Oceans)




Tree Methuselah
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This tree is the eldest tree in the world. It's named by after the eldest man in the world, Methuselah. He lived 969 years, but this tree is over 4500 years old!

And this is where the Devil Fruits are grown on it. Which is also mean the National Treasure of Mariegeoise!





Tree Methuselah as the Devil fruit Tree 😂



Devil Fruits
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And after Joyboy's death the remained disciples were spreaded around the world, and they were been trying to take the Holyland back.

They were even been trying to take children to start a campaign against the Ancient Kingdom! And sadly it was real by the end of the Crusader wars (In 1211-13)




Campaign of Children

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The Children's Crusade was a failed popular crusade by European Christians to regain the Holy Land from the Muslims, said to have taken place in 1212. The crusaders left areas of Northern France, led by Stephen of Cloyes, and Germany, led by Nicholas. The traditional narrative is likely conflated from some factual and mythical events which include the visions by a French boy and a German boy, an intention to peacefully convert Muslims in the Holy Land to Christianity, bands of children marching to Italy, and children being sold into slavery. Many children were tricked by merchants and sailed over to what they thought were the holy lands but, in reality, were slave markets.
It was called the Children's Crusade. A young boy was had a vision that he will lead the army of children to victory, and he was been preaching these words to all children. And almost 30,000 children were been gathered from all over the world. Most of them were from Shantytowns. But as you know the history, this campaign was ended up faithfully. Most of the children were lost, deceased, captured, kidnapped, or run away. And after this hopeless, unsuccessful campaign was led to the total defeat of the D. Clan. And then by this horrors, the King of Alabasta was refused to live here. He's rather chosen the desert land.


And by the way these 19 kings and their families found the new home for their kingdom, which is now MARIEGEOISE.



Mariegeoise
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The descendants of these kings were the Celestial Dragons.



The Celestial Dragons​


As you know that, during the 12th century in the crusader wars, 13 members of the crusader knights were been holding a secret meeting in every year to discuss the problems of each countries. And to decide, which of them should rise or fall. This is how it works in our present day too! Which means that it's still in progress!

They were called...

THE VENETIAN BLACK NOBILITY.​


An anonymus prophet was foretold that, some people in incognito will have been meeting in a crumbled pub in the hearts of Venice. 9 of them were been trying to back off, but those 9 or the 4 of them were been silenced immediately.



And this was been progressing since the 12th century till present.

The “Black Nobility” are/were the oligarchic families of Venice and Genoa, Italy, who in the 12th century held the privileged trading rights (monopolies). The first of three crusades, from 1063 to 1123, established the power of the Venetian Black Nobility and solidified the power of the wealthy ruling class.

The Black Nobility aristocracy achieved complete control over Venice in 1171, when the appointment of the Doge was transferred to what was known as the Great Council, which consisted of members of the commercial aristocracy (among them the infamous de’Medici family). Venice has remained in their hands ever since, but the power and influence of the Venetian Black Nobility extends far beyond its borders, and today it is felt in every corner of the globe. (Don’t forget, our modern banking system originated in Italy.)

In 1204 the oligarchic family parceled out feudal enclaves to their members, and from this epoch dates the great building-up of power and pressure until the government became a closed corporation (don’t we know this from somewhere?) of the leading Black Nobility families. More of this can be found in the works of Dr. John Coleman, Black Nobility Unmasked World-wide, 1985; Conspirators’ Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300, 1992.

The Black Nobility earned its title through dirty tricks, so when the population revolted against the monopolies in government, as anywhere else (aren’t we), the leaders of the uprising were quickly seized and brutally hanged. The Black Nobility uses secret assassinations, murder, blackmail, the bankrupting of opposing citizens or companies, kidnapping, rape and so on… hence their name.

Who are these families today?

Well, the most important ones are:

• House of Bernadotte, Sweden

• House of Bourbon, France

• House of Braganza, Portugal

• House of Grimaldi, Monaco

• House of Guelph, Britain (the most important one)

• House of Habsburg, Austria

• House of Hanover, Germany (the second most important one)

• House of Hohenzollern, Germany

• House of Karadjordjevic, Yugoslavia (former)

• House of Liechtenstein, Liechtenstein

• House of Nassau, Luxembourg

• House of Oldenburg, Denmark

• House of Orange, Netherlands

• House of Savoy, Italy

• House of Wettin, Belgium

• House of Wittelsbach, Germany

• House of Württemberg, Germany

• House of Zogu, Albania

• all the families you will find on the Windsor family tree


All the families listed are connected with the House of Guelph, one of the original Black Nobility families of Venice, from which the House of Windsor and thus the present Queen of England, Elizabeth II, descends. The Guelphs are so intertwined with the German aristocracy through the House of Hanover that it would take several pages to mention all their connections. All (almost) European royal houses originate from the House of Hanover and thus from the House of Guelph — the Black Nobility.

An example: the Hanoverian British King George I came from the Duchy of Luneburg, a part of Northern Germany, which had been governed by the Guelph family since the 12th century. Today the Guelphs (the Windsors) rule by dominating the raw materials market, and for years they have fixed the price of gold (a commodity they neither produce nor own). The House of Windsor also controls the price of copper, zinc, lead and tin. It is no accident that the principle commodity exchanges are located in London, England. Companies run by Black Nobility families are British Petroleum, Oppenheimer, Lonrho, Philbro and many many more.

Another Black Nobility family are the Grosvenors in England. For centuries this family lived, as most of the European families, on ground rent. Today the family owns at least 300 acres of land in the centre of London. The land is never sold, but leased on a 39 year leasehold agreement — the ground rent of the middle ages.

Grosvenor Square, in which the American Embassy is located, belongs to the Grosvenor family, as does Eaton Square. In Eaton Square apartments are rented out at 25,000 to 75,000 pounds a month (and that does not include maintenance costs). This is to give you an idea of the immense wealth the Black Nobility families garner from ground rents, and why families like the Windsors are not at all interested in industrial progress along with the excess population it supports.

This is the main reason why these ’noble’ families are behind most, if not all, of the wrong-headed pro-environmental movements of the world that ultimately and covertly (of course) aim to curb population growth. Prince Philip and Prince Charles are the most visible symbols of these movements, and both have often spoken with the utmost callousness about the need to rid the world of unwanted people.

The Black Nobility are the founders of the [modern] secret societies of our day from which all the others that are connected to the Illuminati originated from — the Committee of 300. The Club of Rome, the C.F.R., the R.I.I.A., the Bilderbergers, the Round Table… all originate from the Committee of 300 and therefore from the European Black Nobility families.


Venetian Black Nobility

They are controlling the banks, the media, everything! They were been financing all these wars during the history! (Napoleon's conquests, The Revolutions, WWI & WWII, etc.!)
And they are still working on the plan of the great cleansing!! Which means that, they want to exterminate the whole world in real life and leaving 500 million out of the bests! (Aristocracy) to work for them. Which was also mentioned in One Piece too!!!!!


The Great Cleansing - Our world is almost reaching it's 8 billion population. This is why they are creating so many viruses, so many wars and conflicts, because they are still dissatisfied with themselves. And they want to be on top, while others are living in misery!


And by the way, you already know that, why Oda used to be having some paranoid thoughts?! Why does he never used to show up in any interviews, and rather he confirms everything in his manga?! Because he's afraid of that they will realize everything, that this manga is about!! Not only just a fiction, but a curved mirror into the reality!!!!!!​
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Basically you got a lot of the right references and some good ideas but you still don't refrain from descending into fan-fiction.

Like this it is really bothersome to read. It is like when you are trying to learn something and you have everything collected in front of you, but someone next to you is yelling "lalalallalalalallalala" all the time. It hurts.

Also I have already seen a some of the parts in your theory before, so I am unsure of whether this is even entirely yours. What's really weird is how disconnected everything is.

It looks kind of like a commentary of Oro Jackson theories then spun together with your own fanfiction.

I don't really get the purpose of all this threads. You seem to have a good knowledge and you might actually be capable of finding something out if you make yourself open to possibilities.

But it seems once you picked up a narrative you don't let it go and just go wild with your thoughts instead of actually differentiating whether or not it could have any actual implication for the story or it is just a theme.
 

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And in the 200 years exactly 20 kings were fought in that crusader wars!

  • Saint Bernat of Clairvaux
  • French King Louis VII.
  • I. "Redbeard" Frederick
  • Austrian Prince Henry II.
  • German-Roman Emperor "Barbarossa" Frederick I.
  • French King Philip August II.
  • English King "Lionheart" Richard I.
  • German-Roman Emperor VI. Henry
  • Austrian Prince Leopold V.
  • Hungarian King Andrew II.
  • Austrian Prince Leopold VI.
  • Emperor Frederick II.
  • French King "Saint" Louis IX.
  • Sicillian King Charles I.
  • And more!
Also to add, you claim that there have been exactly 20 Kings participating in the Crusades of which I have serious doubts about it being true, but what doesn't help here is that your list is incomplete and also includes a Prince.

I think it's entirely made up.
 

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Also to add, you claim that there have been exactly 20 Kings participating in the Crusades of which I have serious doubts about it being true, but what doesn't help here is that your list is incomplete and also includes a Prince.

I think it's entirely made up.

No. It's real! I have made my research about the Crusader wars, so there were 20 kings fought in that war during these 2 centuries! If you have listened during history class.
 

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What fan-fiction?
You are taking things too far. It even ends with you telling me that Oda is paranoid...
No. It's real! I have made my research about the Crusader wars, so there were 20 kings fought in that war during these 2 centuries! If you have listened during history class.
It's easy to say "It's real". Proof it. List all twenty Kings involved here, sorted by crusade.

Quick Google research gives nothing, so don't act like this would be a "common known fact someone could have missed during history classes."

Crusades doesn't get tackled much in German history classes anyways, you spend like 45 minutes on it before moving on btw.
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two kings on your list are even the same person
 

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You are taking things too far. It even ends with you telling me that Oda is paranoid...


It's easy to say "It's real". Proof it. List all twenty Kings involved here, sorted by crusade.

Quick Google research gives nothing, so don't act like this would be a "common known fact someone could have missed during history classes."

Crusades doesn't get tackled much in German history classes anyways, you spend like 45 minutes on it before moving on btw.
Oda is paranoid. Because he doesn't like to be standing into cameras and he doesn'T want to get revealed.

But, I was looking for these kings on Wikipedia. LONG AGO!
 

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Oda is paranoid. Because he doesn't like to be standing into cameras and he doesn'T want to get revealed.

But, I was looking for these kings on Wikipedia. LONG AGO!
Bernard of Clairvaux isn't even a King.
You listed Friedrich Barbarossa twice.

See why this is so bothersome? It's so full of misinformation that people unfamiliar with it might get confused.

There are actually good ideas in this thread that pretty much fit my thoughts. You are knowledgeable but for some reason you ignore any kind of advice given to you in this past week.

I would actually like to argue with you about the content of your theory but I just don't really know what to do here.
 

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Oda is paranoid. Because he doesn't like to be standing into cameras and he doesn'T want to get revealed.

But, I was looking for these kings on Wikipedia. LONG AGO!
Yeah so paranoid that he allowed television to film the inside of his house and met Youtubers.

Most likely he just doesn't want to be in the spotlight that much.

You are suggesting Oda fears some kind of world conspiracy because of writing One Piece which is more than stretchy.
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As you all know that, this is my only one and BIG BANG THEORY about the whole history of One Piece.

To know all these things, that happened back then, we have to travel back into time...

BY 5000 YEARS.​
How do you get to this number? The only dates of importance are 800 years ago (end of the Void Century and birth of the WG) and 1000 years (Zunesha gets banished).
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Long ago, on a far away kingdom, there were been 3 brothers. The 3 brothers had to accomplish an ordeal, which was made by their father, the old king of the Ancient Kingdom.

Just like in Naruto, the story about Hagoromo, who was had to give to his sons an ordeal, to decide, which one of the brothers would deserve that power. And exactly this was in One Piece too.

And when the king of the A.K. was made up his mind, he was chosen his middle son as the true inheritor of the Ancient Kingdom.

Because the youngest one was been too immature to lead a kingdom. And the king was known that his 1st son was hungered for the power.

And the king was had to resign of the throne due to the fact that he was old and sick. And this is why he's chosen his middle son, because he was had everything, that a true king needed:
  • Wisdom
  • Kindness
  • Courage
  • Honor
  • And Altruism.
But before the crowning ceremony would have been happened, the Eldest brother was planned a coup d'etait by killing his father (he poisoned him) and when the inheritor was been hurrying for the aid of his father, the Eldest brother was ambushed him, and beaten him to death. That nobody was seen it coming, except the youngest brother, who was been watching it over from the background.

So Oda was inspired by many events of the Holy Bible. Such events, as Cain killed Abel.
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So back to the crowning ceremony, the Eldest brother was crowned himself, as the next throne inheritor of the Ancient Kingdom. And he's bought the people for himself by his great acting skills.

During the ceremony, the Middle brother was warned the youngest brother with these words:

And this moment was been that moment, when somebody was promised to carry the other's will. And this is how the WILL OF D. was begun. Not to mention about that, he was even married to the wife of his brother. And he's (SETH) done it for the sake of his dying brother's last wish.
Given that the idea of brothers is presented as something super important to us, I am with you here and also see these kind of stories such as Cain and Abel or Manu and Yemu (and its derivations) as myths that could very well be of importance for One Piece, however what is strange here is that you completely make up new characters instead of working with existing ones.

So the Youngest brother was been about to expose his eldest brother, but he was already bought that story to the people of the A.K. that, the youngest brother was the responsible for everything.

He was even blamed the youngest brother for burning the entire city up, however the Eldest Brother did.



Roman Emperor Nero burns Rome up - He was blamed the christians for this.​


And then the king was taken everything to clean the world of the scum. In other words, the Youngest brother, the true inheritor of the throne.
Now you descend into fan-fiction? Why Nero? Where is the connection to One Piece here???

So this moment was like the antithesis of Moses and Ramses, because Ramses was chased Moses and the jewish people back then. And as Moses, the youngest brother was the 1st one to hear the voice of all things during his dream. Just the way as Moses met with God himself.
Again the Exodus story seems like a good fit for One Piece considering a lot of matching themes. However...


Moses meets God - In the universe of One Piece, the Youngest brother had such vision like this, but he had seen the whole city burning, just like everyone and then he was heard the voice of the bush crying for help.
So the chase was been lasting for 40 days without eat, drink and sleep. Only his followers were allowed to do these things. And the youngest brother prayed to lose the mad king and his foolish followers, and then his prayers were found listening. No wonder, why the ancient gods were punished the land of the ancient kingdom by making it disappear from the land surround it by a lot of mysterious weathers, like fogs, devastating vortexes and disappearing seas.


Moses separates the water by the request of God - This also happened during the great chase in One Piece, but here, the gods were angry and disappointed in the Ancient Kingdom. So the Ancient Gods made the whole island deceased from the world map.

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And in addition, they were been travelling the whole word in an arc, which was NOAH in fact. So the recordings are fake from King Neptune, because they don't know anything about the Ancient Kingdom at all and the real history!

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Ark NOAH. Which was carrying the Youngest Brother and his followers till the Red Line.
... Here you descend into fan-fiction again. You are telling essentially just retelling Exodus with a completely made up character as main. Where is the actual connection to One Piece here?

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When they were lost the deadly army, then they were been sailing over 20 years in plus. And the arc was smashed into a huge, red rock. Which was caused its sinking deep down to 10,000 meter depth in the sea. The Youngest Brother was too old and tired to guide his people up to the huge, red hills. So his sons promised him that, they will do everything besides of him. And then the youngest brother died happily finding peace in the enormous sinking ark.


Moses guides the jewish people till the Mountains of Sion - So the Youngest brother guided the remained people till the border of Red Line
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Oda is often used to copy the real history into the Universe of One Piece, so don't be surprised on it, why did he put so much elements of the Holy Bible itself.
The thing is, Oda never just literally adapts a story 1:1, which is what you dohere. Oda puts things into a mixer, he is creating something original.

You just created a fanfiction out of something already written. What connects this to One Piece? Where are the hints in the text and artwork?
 

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Guys guys... Calm down!!

You all sound ridiculous and paranoid! So please don't fight!
 

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Guys guys... Calm down!!

You all sound ridiculous and paranoid! So please don't fight!
I don't think anyone is upset here. But if he puts these theories up here he makes them open for discussion. It just doesn't help then that he dodges every argument with a two-liner.

With the last post I wanted to clarify what is lacking here and I actually hope he picks it up because there are points worth discussing here. I definitely don't want to pick up a fight.

Mainly I am very confused here.
 

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I don't think anyone is upset here. But if he puts these theories up here he makes them open for discussion. It just doesn't help then that he dodges every argument with a two-liner.

With the last post I wanted to clarify what is lacking here and I actually hope he picks it up because there are points worth discussing here. I definitely don't want to pick up a fight.

Mainly I am very confused here.
I'm just joking.

This thread is called Crazy Theories for a reason. So all of us who post here sound somewhat ridiculous and crazy, I guess.

But still I get your point :-).
 

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Yeah so paranoid that he allowed television to film the inside of his house and met Youtubers.

Most likely he just doesn't want to be in the spotlight that much.

You are suggesting Oda fears some kind of world conspiracy because of writing One Piece which is more than stretchy.
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How do you get to this number? The only dates of importance are 800 years ago (end of the Void Century and birth of the WG) and 1000 years (Zunesha gets banished).
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Given that the idea of brothers is presented as something super important to us, I am with you here and also see these kind of stories such as Cain and Abel or Manu and Yemu (and its derivations) as myths that could very well be of importance for One Piece, however what is strange here is that you completely make up new characters instead of working with existing ones.

Now you descend into fan-fiction? Why Nero? Where is the connection to One Piece here???

Again the Exodus story seems like a good fit for One Piece considering a lot of matching themes. However...


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... Here you descend into fan-fiction again. You are telling essentially just retelling Exodus with a completely made up character as main. Where is the actual connection to One Piece here?

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The thing is, Oda never just literally adapts a story 1:1, which is what you dohere. Oda puts things into a mixer, he is creating something original.

You just created a fanfiction out of something already written. What connects this to One Piece? Where are the hints in the text and artwork?

But what am I talking about, my posts never used to go to any kind of fanfictions, because that void century is based off on different histories and cultures, like Egyptian, Herbrew, Roman, Celtic, Aztec, Asian, Christian, usw. cultures. So I tried to make synonymes.

Here's an example:

Prince of Egypt by Dreamworks that tells a real story about Moses who've led the jewish people till the border of Israel, because Pharaoh Ramses I had a lot of problem against the jewish people during the history and he started exterminate them. And then, his son, Pharaoh Ramses II has stepped into his father's footsteps that he was been raising up with Moses and those 2 were like brothers. However Ramses has felt the same antipathy against the jews, and he's stood into the line. So he chased Moses till the red sea, and God ordered Moses to put his staff into the water, which in consequence the sea was splitted into half. And when Moses has managed to lead the people till the border to Israel, the holyland, then he wasn't had any strength to go with them. He's rather looked a place to rest in peace. So this is why I meant the "YOUNGEST BROTHER."


And the other example is where the 3 brothers "Cain, Abel & Seth" in Ancient Kingdom were had to take an ordeal, because in the Holy Bible, God has denied the immolation of Cain. But he's accepted Abel's. And due to the jealousy, Cain has killed Abel and then his brother, Seth has carried Abel's will. So this is why the will of D. was inspired Oda.
And remember: Oda & Kishimoto are close friends. Oda was inspired a lot from Kishimoto too, because if you watch Hawkins, he's the fusion of Hidan & Kakuzu.


And this is why I meant by the Eldest brother burning up the entire city on Raftel/Laugh Tale, because it's a synonym to the history where Nero burnt Rome and then he blamed the christians for that. And there's also a reference for that. Just like, when Doflamingo has claimed himself as the hero, when King Rick Doldo II was going "insane" on Dressrosa, but in fact he was under Doflamingo's Parasite Thread.

So again, on Raftel, it is a reference, why the Youngest one had to run away. And the burning bush as a future vision, which was the dream of MOSES where he meets God first, he warned him about the upcoming danger. Where in the Universe of One Piece the Burning bush was about the people's shrieking from severe pain and help. And the voice of all things is like a sign by Fate/God.

Source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreuzzug
 
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I have this crazy theory about the stronger haki slices never stop bleeding, something like "your willpower destroying the rivals from within." Thus, Kaido was almost dying after his battle with Oden and BigMom had to save him transferring part of Oden's soul to Kaido, and that would be the actual debt.
 

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I have this crazy theory about the stronger haki slices never stop bleeding, something like "your willpower destroying the rivals from within." Thus, Kaido was almost dying after his battle with Oden and BigMom had to save him transferring part of Oden's soul to Kaido, and that would be the actual debt.
OOOHH that is a pretty interesting theory
 

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If you have already played with the 2 Middle Earth Shadow games, then you're going to love this analysis!


First of all, during gameplay, a really nice idea hit me and I'm here to tell what is Brook's awakened form in fact.

The Respawn Respawn or Revive Revive or Resurrect Resurrect Fruit (Yomi Yomi no Mi) nvm. allows to the user to get back into life again and again after it's being killed.

It's a fun fact that Talion, the main anti-hero of Middle Earth - Shadow of Mordor & Shadow of War has the same ability as Brook. But the difference is, Talion's got a ring and Brook's got a Devil Fruit.



Talion


Brook
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So once, Brook has completely awakened his Devil Fruit, then he will be able to...

1. Create Soul Clones and performing faster attacks

Brook is used to have some problems when he's about to separate his soul over his dead body. But when he will completely awaken his DF, He won't need to struggle with this problem. Because he can create a doppelgänger by his wraith form, which is working like a stand from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, so his enemies will have a really hard time by surprising him for real.



Talion's Fast Attack - Brook will be also able to do it once he's awakened it.
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2. Soul Domination


Brook's soul domination be like
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Obviously you know that why can do Brook dominate over the people's souls. And it's already proven by Fishmen Island arc during the Gyonkord Plaza Battle. He was dominated over their souls through his music. So what will he do when he awakens his DF and there's no any instrument?

BTW, he can be able to make his enemies into his allies.

3. Freezing, Poisoning, Cursing and Torching techniques

As we have already experienced it, Brook can be able to freeze his enemies. But not only Freezing is that ability that he can do. He can be able to Poision, Curse or even TORCH the enemy's soul by a single cut. How dope that can be!?


4. NECROMANCY




Brook's Necromancy be like
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He will be able to resurrect fallen allies or enemies and making them into his puppets. One of the most unforgivable technique of the Yomi Yomi no Mi, that might cost into its user's life. You know, something for something rule.
 

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I have this crazy theory about the stronger haki slices never stop bleeding, something like "your willpower destroying the rivals from within." Thus, Kaido was almost dying after his battle with Oden and BigMom had to save him transferring part of Oden's soul to Kaido, and that would be the actual debt.
Didn't Mihawk cut a few people in the story (Zoro, Luffy, Daz Bones)?

Also Roger, Whitebeard and Oden got a few injuries from each other in chapter 966. They are small, but wouldn't they bleed to death nonetheless? :p
 
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