Kimetsu No Yaiba Chapter 195 Spoiler/Discussion Thread

[levi12]

Well, he WAS blessed by the Sun God as per his mothers wishes. That’s probably why only him, Michikatsu, and Tanjirou along with Tanjurou are the only ones with the flaming marks. Worship and honoring the Sun God is probably the only thing that’s gets that for you.

Aside from that though, it’s interesting to see a little bit of Muzan’s human side. Even HE believes in Buddha and God.

And didn’t Mitsuri already prove her worth? She was literally the only person that didn’t activate her mark, but was still keeping up relatively well. She also got some good hits in on him, it’s just that Muzan’s regeneration is crazy fast. Kanao was absolutely shitting on the 3 boys before they went pillar training, plus she was instrumental in the fight against Douma. I’m sorry, but everyone complaining about the treatment the girls got in the series is crazy. Tamayo has consistently been getting brought up as being instrumental in getting all this done, Shinobu was also, since she added the aging drug. Kanao seemed like the brains of the operation when her, Inosuke, and Zenitsu joined the battle against Muzan, plus she was the only one that managed not to get taken out by Muzan when he got more serious. Nezuko no one complained about so ok.

Have you seen how much screentime all Females have besides Nezuko when their alive? You should know this question but I answer it anyway

Shinobu besides fighting older spider demon didn t do much on screen. We didn t see her long whole time. Next time she appear she fought douma and got kill thats really minuscle timescreen. Her fight with Douma only Last two or three chapter. Too be Fair If other pillar fought Douma one on one they would be kill with only Himejima,Tanjiro( with All see through) and Muichiro capable holding their own Rest would be kill as easily as Shinobu.

Kanao hack shit Besides Fighting Douma she only has cameo appearances and appearrance that just briefly. I wonder wether Gotouge loves keeping her at sideline or just don t like her.

Tamayo besides creating medicine to turn demon into a human and telling to gather blood from twelve demon moon. She hardly have timescreen then she got kill by Muzan now.

Kanroji better than the three above as her fight against Hatengu was good. But they skip her fight against Nakime and she got trounced by Muzan worse than others. Now she join benchwarming role.

 

[Laminariales]

Have you seen how much screentime all Females have besides Nezuko when their alive? You should know this question but I answer it anyway

Shinobu besides fighting older spider demon didn t do much on screen. We didn t see her whole time. Next time she appear she fought douma and got kill thats really minuscle timescreen. Her fight with Douma only Last two or three chapter. Too be Fair If other pillar fought Douma one on one they would be kill with only Himejima,Tanjiro( with All see through) and Muichiro capable holding their own Rest would be kill as easily as Shinobu.

Kanao hack shit Besides Fighting Douma she only has cameo appearances and appearrance that just briefly. I wonder wether loves keeping her sideline or just don t like her.

Tamayo besides creating medicine to turn demon into a human and telling to gather blood from twelve demon moon. She hardly have timescreen then she got kill by Muzan now.

Kanroji better than the three above as her fight against Hatengu was good. But they skip her fight against Nakime and she got trounced by Muzan.

I guess tomioka is female then :P

That's the format this manga been following since the beginning, all pillars got like one fight where they are the main (except tomioka), which after they take a more adjunctive role. Honestly if mitsuri joined she'll die same as her blacksmith arc fellow soldiers, alas that might not happen courtesy of iguro. Tamayo and yushiro are supporting staff as established, yet they were utilized to the best their capabilities

And honestly shonobu vs douma is my 2nd favorite fight without the addendum with kanao and inosuke, just like akaza vs rengoku direct and futile, short with substance is better than drawn out. Inosuke by they way is sidelined quite a lot which doesn't matter bc it's the story not the character, if they have business they'll appear. My shinazugawa had not sustained any new injury and is still yet to come back, well it give iguro his time

I mean if you want to complain about screen times sure but it's not an issue with female characters. This series is finely tuned where only necessary scenes are added, luckily there are novels

 

[levi12]

I guess tomioka is female then :P

That's the format this manga been following since the beginning, all pillars got like one fight where they are the main (except tomioka), which after they take a more adjunctive role. Honestly if mitsuri joined she'll die same as her blacksmith arc fellow soldiers, alas that might not happen courtesy of iguro. Tamayo and yushiro are supporting staff as established, yet they were utilized to the best their capabilities

And honestly shonobu vs douma is my 2nd favorite fight without the addendum with kanao and inosuke, just like akaza vs rengoku direct and futile, short with substance is better than drawn out. Inosuke by they way is sidelined quite a lot which doesn't matter bc it's the story not the character, if they have business they'll appear. My shinazugawa had not sustained any new injury and is still yet to come back, well it give iguro his time

I mean if you want to complain about screen times sure but it's not an issue with female characters. This series is finely tuned where only necessary scenes are added, luckily there are novels

Nope Tomioka already has good timescreen you can thank Muzan for that. His battle with Akaza and Muzan was good enough. He is done good enough already. Besides Tomioka,Obanai never had one on one fight don t forget that and Sanemi amd Himejima. Tomioka isn t only one.

The fact you haven t made any reason to justify why all this females in KNY except Nezuko have crap time screen is the fact I am right. Even Sanemi have more you can thank Muzan and kokushibo for that. Obanai is only one lacking but he is getting it now.

My complain on lack females timescreen in KNY is spot on see all four I mention.

And I am not talking about impact and influence on plot. its about screentime and appearing more.

I fail too see how you think Giyu is lacking screentime combine the fight between Akaza and Muzan he has good enough already.

You can disagree with me thats fine and no problem for me but they deserve better In my opinion Kanroji,Kanao,Tamayo and Shinobu

Obanai is getting more he should be getting better. So no reason for anyone to complain about him.

 

[Gallon]

According to the translation, the wounds that Yoriichi inflicted keep moving as to indicate the locations of the hearts and brains. I like Kimetsu no Yaiba, but come on, that's way too convenient and illogical.
Iguro and Tanjiro's teamwork is excellent, but the fight against Muzan has been far too one-dimensional and reliant on multiple conveniences thus far. It's... very average.

Oh, also, Iguro's noting that Muzan does not act on emotion... dude, Muzan is an emotional manchild.

 

[Gladiolus]

We can all agree that Iguro is the MVP of this arc (along with Tamayo and Yoriichi), right? I liked him from the beginning, so I'm glad Gotouge is finally making him shine at the end.

It seems Muzan is an adept user of the secret Joestar technique.

 

[revo]

Chapter is out here

 

[Gladiolus]

I don't like how Nezuko is approaching the battelfield. I'm b4 Muzan pulls a Kars, eats Nezuko and becomes inmune to the sunlight, making all this battle useless.
On the other hand, since Nezuko is turning human, maybe she will turn into a full human before Muzan reaches her and his plan will crumble.

I love Iguro more and more each chapter it passes, but I sadly think he's definitely going to die.

 

[levi12]

According to the translation, the wounds that Yoriichi inflicted keep moving as to indicate the locations of the hearts and brains. I like Kimetsu no Yaiba, but come on, that's way too convenient and illogical.
Iguro and Tanjiro's teamwork is excellent, but the fight against Muzan has been far too one-dimensional and reliant on multiple conveniences thus far. It's... very average.

Oh, also, Iguro's noting that Muzan does not act on emotion... dude, Muzan is an emotional manchild.

Yoriichi bots is inhuman and crazy. It hard to believe this guy is human. I am not suprise about that. But yeah it is way too convenient.

We can all agree that Iguro is the MVP of this arc (along with Tamayo and Yoriichi), right? I liked him form the beginning, so I'm glad Gotouge is finally making him shine at the end.

It seems Muzan is an adept user of the secret Joestar technique.

Not really everyone have done their part. Everyone deserve best part equally. If one had miss even one part of their task Muzan and twelve demons would have win this war.

Tanjiro and Giyu renposible for Akaza defeat by pushing him to his limit leading to his own death.

Shinobu,Kanao and Inosuke renposible Douma death and Shinobu alone also renposible for Muzan weakning right now with collabaration with Tamayo on aging medicine

Tamayo is the cause of Muzan weakening of aging drug from collabaration with shinobu

Himejima,Sanemi,Muichiro and Genya together kill Kokushibo though it thanks to Genya they win but other three are all needed to defeat kokushibo Genya alone couldn t have done it.

Yushiro cause indirectly Nakime death,Heal Tanjiro and going to heal rest pillars now.

Murata for saving Tanjiro live

Iguro Save Tanjiro twice and take in part in cornering Muzan

Yoriichi the cause of Muzan wounds,His passing of breath style to kamado and many more.

Zenitsu cut down Kaigaku by himself though any pillar could cut down Kaigaku he was no nowhere level of Himejima,Giyu,Sanemi and Iguro.

Everyone have been useful except sadly Kanroji who is literally have done nothing to contribute plus Nezuko hasn t contribute at all in this arc yet.

 

[Sato-san]

Yoriichi bots is inhuman and crazy. It hard to believe this guy is human. I am not suprise about that. But yeah it is way too convenient.

Not really everyone have done their part. Everyone deserve best part equally. If one had miss even one part of their task Muzan and twelve demons would have win this war.

Tanjiro and Giyu renposible for Akaza defeat by pushing him to his limit leading to his own death.

Shinobu,Kanao and Inosuke renposible Douma death and Shinobu alone also renposible for Muzan weakning right now with collabaration with Tamayo on aging medicine

Tamayo is the cause of Muzan weakening of aging drug from collabaration with shinobu

Himejima,Sanemi,Muichiro and Genya together kill Kokushibo though it thanks to Genya they win but other three are all needed to defeat kokushibo Genya alone couldn t have done it.

Yushiro cause indirectly Nakime death,Heal Tanjiro and going to heal rest pillars now.

Murata for saving Tanjiro live

Iguro Save Tanjiro twice and take in part in cornering Muzan

Yoriichi the cause of Muzan wounds,His passing of breath style to kamado and many more.

Zenitsu cut down Kaigaku by himself though any pillar could cut down Kaigaku he was no nowhere level of Himejima,Giyu,Sanemi and Iguro.

Everyone have been useful except sadly Kanroji who is literally have done nothing to contribute plus Nezuko hasn t contribute at all in this arc yet.

Like someone said, it seems like Mitsuri might end up having her own clutch moment with the recent cover page showing her being healed. Plus Nezuko is gonna need that help since her powers are half gone right now. So I’m assuming we’re gonna get a pissed off, marked Mitsuri right when Muzan is about to get his hands on Nezuko after dealing some heavy damage to Tanjirou and Iguro. Someone else predicted that also. I’m sorry for not being able to remember as I’m typing this.

 

[XXGenesis]

Yes the cover page with Mitsuri provides hope, at best some redemption for her character. Kanao also wasn't critically wounded. She needs to join back in on the fight.

The other Pillars are finished their too injured to fight. Maybe Zenitsu & Inosuke will get back up but I highly doubt it.

 

[levi12]

Like someone said, it seems like Mitsuri might end up having her own clutch moment with the recent cover page showing her being healed. Plus Nezuko is gonna need that help since her powers are half gone right now. So I’m assuming we’re gonna get a pissed off, marked Mitsuri right when Muzan is about to get his hands on Nezuko after dealing some heavy damage to Tanjirou and Iguro. Someone else predicted that also. I’m sorry for not being able to remember as I’m typing this.

Hopefully Kanroji does something useful As she hasn t done anything useful even Red shirts demon slayers did more than her. As for Nezuko justified she is in hiding and protect most of this arc but I am not sure she might be human or as speculation say half human and demon.

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Yes the cover page with Mitsuri provides hope, at best some redemption for her character. Kanao also wasn't critically wounded. She needs to join back in on the fight.

The other Pillars are finished their too injured to fight. Maybe Zenitsu & Inosuke will get back up but I highly doubt it.

Agree about kanroji but I don t think you can count Giyu and Sanemi out their injuries aren t as bad. Well Giyu may been in really bad shape I think he can adapt to one left handed swordmanship as long as he can get healed and all those wounds stich up. Sanemi doesn t seem to suffer any loss limbs type of injury except his fingers he should be able to be back in shape in no time as long as he is heal.

Himejima is only confirm out of this fight for good as Yushiro claim.

 

[XXGenesis]

Giyu in Ch.190 lost his sword blocking Muzan tentacle, half a chapter before he recieved the cure from the cat. He's missing an entire arm.

Sanemi also received too much damage from his fight before and now, he's still only human.

Gyomei imo is who I wanna see raise from the dead, and still fight off balance.

 

[Gladiolus]

Gyomei imo is who I wanna see raise from the dead, and still fight off balance.

They said that even if Himejima manages to survive his injuries, he wouldn't be able to fight. That being said, considering the death flags he has been pulling through this arc, I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow manages to return to the battle and has a last stand against Muzan before dying.

Why iterate the manga to me mate? What I wrote is clearly what I personally desire as a fan, I quoted the manga also I know and understand the current situation with the characters.

Don't need to get so deffensive, my intention wasn't to call you an ignorant or anything. What I was trying to say was that, even if his condition is bad (as stated in the manga), I wouldn't be surprised if your wish comes true and he does something before the end of the battle. Just that.

 

[levi12]

Giyu in Ch.190 lost his sword blocking Muzan tentacle, half a chapter before he recieved the cure from the cat. He's missing an entire arm.

Sanemi also received too much damage from his fight before and now, he's still only human.

Gyomei imo is who I wanna see raise from the dead, and still fight off balance.

I guess will see But I believe Giyu and Sanemi can comeback. Their also one of strongest of current pillars of Current demon slayers.

 

[XXGenesis]

They said that even if Himejima manages to survive his injuries, he wouldn't be able to fight. That being said, considering the death flags he has been pulling through this arc, I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow manages to return to the battle and has a last stand against Muzan before dying.

Why iterate the manga to me mate? What I wrote is clearly what I personally desire as a fan, I quoted the manga also I know and understand the current situation with the characters.


@levi12
I would vote that Iguro has stolen the #2 spot from Sanemi/Muichiro. His performance so far has honestly been better than Himejima surprisingly, ni he isn't stronger just saying he's been the most helpful against Muzan. Probably because he was the least battle worn and injured and as shown a easy candidate for #2 strongest demon slayer.

 

[levi12]

Why iterate the manga to me mate? What I wrote is clearly what I personally desire as a fan, I quoted the manga also I know and understand the current situation with the characters.


@levi12
I would vote that Iguro has stolen the #2 spot from Sanemi/Muichiro. His performance so far has honestly been better than Himejima surprisingly, ni he isn't stronger just saying he's been the most helpful against Muzan. Probably because he was the least battle worn and injured and as shown a easy candidate for #2 strongest demon slayer.

I disagree he isn t stronger than Sanemi here look my reason

Sanemi would be second strongest pillar not counting Tanjiro I think It kinda shown in the fight against Muzan unless Iguro can use all see through. He held his own pretty well and never got kill that whole time despite being grieviously injure from his battle against koku. Iguro nearly got kill by Muzan only to be save kanao,zen and Inosuke and Giyu nearly got kill by Muzan got save by Iguro and Himejima. Sanemi never got in that situation despite his injuries

Himejima and Sanemi never come close to being kill that whole time.

Also remember Giyu and Sanemi are in bad shape even before fight. That makes them more impressive. While Iguro was more fresh and not injure along with Kanroji

Sanemi organs were spill out before he close it and Giyu have severe wounds. They both fight top three moons to the death. Iguro didn t receive any injury against Nakime.

I think my list would been like this for Top pillars.

1. Himejima

2. Sanemi

3. Iguro/Giyu(opinion varies)

You guys seems to be forget Iguro is not battle worn unlike all pillars,Tanjiro,Zen,Inosuke and Kanao except for Kanroji who isn t battle worn.

Obanai fought much weaker Muzan Alonside Tanjiro

Obanai was very useful against Muzan when pillars was all active landing blows on him. But he nearly got kill in process as well it werent rescue by his comrades

Muzan try to kill everyone equally yet Himejima and Sanemi were only one who wasn t rescue by anyone at that fight.

If you are gonna say Tanjiro got beaten by Muzan quickly first time. Was because Tanjiro was so battle worn and suffer big injury. He didn t even use water style,Dotg style and all see through then he got poison.

 

[XXGenesis]

I disagree he isn t stronger than Sanemi here look my reason

Sanemi would be second strongest pillar not counting Tanjiro I think It kinda shown in the fight against Muzan unless Iguro can use all see through. He held his own pretty well and never got kill that whole time despite being grieviously injure from his battle against koku. Iguro nearly got kill by Muzan only to be save kanao,zen and Inosuke and Giyu nearly got kill by Muzan got save by Iguro and Himejima. Sanemi never got in that situation despite his injuries

Himejima and Sanemi never come close to being kill that whole time.

Also remember Giyu and Sanemi are in bad shape even before fight. That makes them more impressive. While Iguro was more fresh and not injure along with Kanroji

Sanemi organs were spill out before he close it and Giyu have severe wounds. They both fight top three moons to the death. Iguro didn t receive any injury against Nakime.

I think my list would been like this for Top pillars.

1. Himejima

2. Sanemi

3. Iguro/Giyu(opinion varies)

You guys seems to be forget Iguro is not battle worn unlike all pillars,Tanjiro,Zen,Inosuke and Kanao except for Kanroji who isn t battle worn.

Obanai fought much weaker Muzan Alonside Tanjiro

Obanai was very useful against Muzan when pillars was all active landing blows on him. But he nearly got kill in process as well it werent rescue by his comrades

Muzan try to kill everyone equally yet Himejima and Sanemi were only one who wasn t rescue by anyone at that fight.

If you are gonna say Tanjiro got beaten by Muzan quickly first time. Was because Tanjiro was so battle worn and suffer big injury. He didn t even use water style,Dotg style and all see through then he got poison.

Appreciate your post. I'm gonna respond to it in the tank the Pillars thread, since it can get this thread off topic pretty quickly.

 

[Triok]

I have been wondering, just how the fuc* did tanjirou's ancestor memorized the sun breathing just seeing it once, even if he memorize all the movement, how did he learn about the breathing???

 

[levi12]

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I have been wondering, just how the fuc* did tanjirou's ancestor memorized the sun breathing just seeing it once, even if he memorize all the movement, how did he learn about the breathing???

He has photographic memory I think.

 

[sterben.]

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He has photographic memory I think.

based on info so far, i guess sumiyoshi's peculiar sensory is sight. there are peculiar senses attributed to each character, like tanjiro's sense of smell and zenitsu's sharp hearing even he's asleep/unconscious. the chapter says "he starred/looked into every single detail, not wanting to miss anything; burning it vividly into his memory". i guess this indirectly suggest that "somehow", sumiyoshi might have unknowingly entered the see through world. remember what tanjiro/himejima/tanjiro's father said on how to activate it?; you focus on your peculiar sense, and close all other senses, and in that state you will be able to see through things. remember, yoriichi knew michikatsu's instructor's breathing pattern via see through world.

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hmm, by the way, there might be a chance that gyomei and giyu will be able to enter the battle again. nezuko can reconnect her body parts even if she were to be sliced and diced just like in daki and gyutaro fight. imagine if she can reconnect their (pilar's) amputated limbs with her blood demon art. that would be another story