Doesn’t matter if erza was holding back the fact of the matter is the full spam heaven wheel that her strongest armor I mean she used it on acno that alone should show u unless u believe that erza was holding back .
I can argue that Laxus was too, but it doesn't matter. Erza eventually stopped holding back and the result is still what we see here. If you're arguing that Erza used her strongest attack and still held back...Well, that doesn't make any sense at all. Either the true benisakura slash was stronger or heaven's wheel was. If you're going to claim true benisakura was stronger, then it would have dealt more damage than Erza's final attack. Which means heavens wheel isn't enough to finish Laxus off, especially since Laxus wasn't even really hit by it. He countered the attack with his imperial red lightning, and only got minor cuts and scratches from the resulting explosion.
Erza projected every weapon she possessed against Acnologia. That's not me claiming it. That's words from Erza's own mouth. If you don't believe that Erza spammed every one of her weapons at Acnologia, that means she would have had to gotten hundreds of heaven wheel swords and purposely chose to spam them instead of every weapon in her arsenal, and then lie about it to a person that doesn't even care to listen. Now she may not have spammed every weapon against Laxus when she used Blumenblatt, but the fact that she exhausted herself only means that it's because she didn't have enough MP to project the rest of her weapons.
You believe that Laxus' imerial red lightning is his strongest attack right? You also believe heaven's wheel is her weakest attack right? So that means Erza matched Laxus' strongest attack with her weakest attack.
You also believe that Erza's true benisakura is her strongest attack right? Well Laxus matched true benisakura with regular punches in red lightning mode.
You believe that Laxus' imerial red lightning is his strongest attack right? You also believe heaven's wheel is her weakest attack right? So that means Erza matched Laxus' strongest attack with her weakest attack.
You also believe that Erza's true benisakura is her strongest attack right? Well Laxus matched true benisakura with regular punches in red lightning mode.
Laxus' imperial red lightning is his strongest
pretty much, laxus used this with pof to defeat wahl
to refute this is as similar as saying nakagami isnt erza strongest in tartaros arc
Heaven wheel is erza weakest. since all opponents erza ever came against countered it literally in the start of the battle
Laxus' imperial red lightning is his strongest
pretty much, laxus used this with pof to defeat wahl
to refute this is as similar as saying nakagami isnt erza strongest in tartaros arc
Heaven wheel is erza weakest. since all opponents erza ever came against countered it literally in the start of the battle
i dont like it
but that what it is
i even mentioned that i didnt like it way back when it happened.
but blumblatt is weakest attack erza has, it is equivilant to base natsu roar or base laxus roar
i am not gonna chnage the entire fairy tail for one confusing moment
Laxus' imperial red lightning is his strongest
pretty much, laxus used this with pof to defeat wahl
to refute this is as similar as saying nakagami isnt erza strongest in tartaros arc
Heaven wheel is erza weakest. since all opponents erza ever came against countered it literally in the start of the battle
Can you show me that panel where they cancelled each other out? Like as an equal thing? Cause I remember seeing Laxus disintegration of her swords than an explosion. Maybe I missed something.
Laxus' imperial red lightning is his strongest
pretty much, laxus used this with pof to defeat wahl
to refute this is as similar as saying nakagami isnt erza strongest in tartaros arc
Heaven wheel is erza weakest. since all opponents erza ever came against countered it literally in the start of the battle
Neither of these comments make sense, sounds like you already started making stuff up.
1) MF:RL isn’t his strongest attack. This statement doesn’t even hold water. It’s a regular lightning spell enhanced to red lightning. He can now enhance every single one of this spells with RL, the entirety of his arsenal. RL: Dragon’s Jaw, and Roaring Thunder are unquestionably stronger spells. It’s not even up for debate, look at how it’s been expressed to work.
2) This is one of her strongest base spells dude. An what I mean by that, is out of the original armors that she showcased, this is her biggest original attack. An one of her only major spells. I mean she used it against Acno for crying out loud. So don’t try and pretend it’s some pathetic piece of spell work.
Erza and Laxus were both running low on magic. An had time for one last ditch spell. They both used familiar spells, like casting cantraps in D&D. An even using those the power difference between them showed in the clash.
You’re misunderstanding. Nobody is saying he’s stronger just because of that, we are pointing to his being last to fall, and first to rise as the final nail in the tie argument. Since the board is broken up into essentially two camps on this matter.
Camp Laxus: Laxus clearly held the upper hand during the battle and Erza admits her defeat. Glad Laxus survives the red pants and cements what we already knew, and pleasantly surprised by how well the fight was handled for Erza and acknowledging the pyrrhic victories she gets out of this.
Camp Erza: It was a tie, Erza showed she’s always been even with Laxus. Laxus’ said he needed to take her serious, and that she needed to take him seriously (was holding back on that big sword attack), an that he was out of magic. Laxus collapsed too, so they are clearly equals.
Personally, the fight was literally perfect. Laxus got almost an entire chapter of slapping Erza around to justify what I’ve always felt about the power difference. On top of that, we have Laxus showing exactly how much he’s grown since Tenrou. He acknowledges Erza, and treats her as an equal. I think he’s 100% right, Erza ain’t no damn joke and nobody to play with. She will pull an underdog victory out ha muthafuckin a$$ real quick. Also, I like that he was still Laxus. She showed a new spell, he one upped that shit, just to show the power difference was real. At the same time Erza pulled some trump cards out her ass and they were all fucking realistic and made sense for her damn character. (I want a Laxus RLD spear to be the center piece of her replacement Lightning armor, but that’s just me) An we have never seen somebody force Laxus to admit he’s out of magic, that’s a big deal. Not enough to make a loss a tie, but still big. The fact it’s been this long and folks are still debating it so hotly is what I want for FT. Can’t wait for EZ to hit the same stride.
Imo the Erza and Laxus fight was made to make the powerlevels clear.
Laxus is stronger than Erza : he collapsed last and woke up before her.
They are in the same tier : The fact that he still passed out (he was defenseless, the blade thot almost ate him) means that though she is clearly inferior to him, she is still close to him. I don't know how some could think he is >> her. If that was the case he wouldn't have passed out.
I appreciate the effort Mashima put in that fight. I personnaly liked it a lot, and it gave a clear portrayal on their respective strength. Laxus>Erza. Not >> nor =
Anyway why y'all arguing when all that matters is that they both are >> to Mira
Imo the Erza and Laxus fight was made to make the powerlevels clear.
Laxus is stronger than Erza : he collapsed last and woke up before her.
They are in the same tier : The fact that he still passed out (he was defenseless, the blade thot almost ate him) means that though she is clearly inferior to him, she is still close to him. I don't know how some could think he is >> her. If that was the case he wouldn't have passed out.
I appreciate the effort Mashima put in that fight. I personnaly liked it a lot, and it gave a clear portrayal on their respective strength. Laxus>Erza. Not >> nor =
Anyway why y'all arguing when all that matters is that they both are >> to Mira
Can you show me that panel where they cancelled each other out? Like as an equal thing? Cause I remember seeing Laxus disintegration of her swords than an explosion. Maybe I missed something.
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Neither of these comments make sense, sounds like you already started making stuff up.
1) MF:RL isn’t his strongest attack. This statement doesn’t even hold water. It’s a regular lightning spell enhanced to red lightning. He can now enhance every single one of this spells with RL, the entirety of his arsenal. RL: Dragon’s Jaw, and Roaring Thunder are unquestionably stronger spells. It’s not even up for debate, look at how it’s been expressed to work.
2) This is one of her strongest base spells dude. An what I mean by that, is out of the original armors that she showcased, this is her biggest original attack. An one of her only major spells. I mean she used it against Acno for crying out loud. So don’t try and pretend it’s some pathetic piece of spell work.
Erza and Laxus were both running low on magic. An had time for one last ditch spell. They both used familiar spells, like casting cantraps in D&D. An even using those the power difference between them showed in the clash.
if laxus attack was stronger than erzas then erza would have been blown away.
check out natsu attack over powering twin dragon combine attacks
is that not the same attack he used with pof to defeat wahl, if yes then its his strongest attack
erza seems to only have one projectile attack, this one, and it has never taken out anyone, it is pathetic as laxus roar is
but not by much
gmg laxus could knockout gmg jura
current laxus cant knockout current erza
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if laxus attack was stronger than erzas then erza would have been blown away.
check out natsu attack over powering twin dragon combine attacks
is that not the same attack he used with pof to defeat wahl, if yes then its his strongest attack
erza seems to only have one projectile attack, this one, and it has never taken out anyone, it is pathetic as laxus roar is
Why? It could just as easily destroy all her swords and detonate. Which is exactly what it looks like happened. Funny you mention the roar attack, as that’s exactly what Raiko hitting her Swords reminded me off.
Yes, it is. The new magic that he gained during his boost. An again, provide something that supports its being his strongest spell? I mean it’s a simply lightning enhanced spell, he can now RL enhance his entire DS arsenal. What suggests that it’s superior to them?
Erza also has her bow, the spear she shot at the moon, and her sword angel armor from Alvarez. She has options. An she used as a final attack against Hades, and it certainly dealt Acno enough of a blow to be bragged about by all her fans. Now suddenly it’s not impressive?
Why? It could just as easily destroy all her swords and detonate. Which is exactly what it looks like happened. Funny you mention the roar attack, as that’s exactly what Raiko hitting her Swords reminded me off.
Yes, it is. The new magic that he gained during his boost. An again, provide something that supports its being his strongest spell? I mean it’s a simply lightning enhanced spell, he can now RL enhance his entire DS arsenal. What suggests that it’s superior to them?
Erza also has her bow, the spear she shot at the moon, and her sword angel armor from Alvarez. She has options. An she used as a final attack against Hades, and it certainly dealt Acno enough of a blow to be bragged about by all her fans. Now suddenly it’s not impressive?
then why wasnt erza hurt. why did the two attack cancel each other. why are saying only laxus attack destryed the church, not erzas, if only laxus attack destryed the church why wasnt the remaining attack (after overpowering erza blumblatt) directed at erza. why were they in the same state after it
whether you like it or not, the two attacks canceled out eeach other and the back lash of these two, destroyed the church. stop following silly policy of when in doubt give more feats your favorite
which shown laxus attack is stronger than reiko
what did irene do to that attack, what about ajeel, kagura, azuma, midnight, ikagura did to that attack. other than aria can you name one character taken out by blumblatt.
She was, it literally brought her to her knees. It did more to her than anything any other character in the manga has done to her bar Eileen.
As for Blumenbatt, what's your point? You're going out of you're way to say the attack is weak, why? How does that reflect on Laxus? You saying his peak offense is weaker than Erza's "weakest" attack? That it? That his offense is shit? Ajeel's offense>>>Laxus'?
then why wasnt erza hurt. why did the two attack cancel each other. why are saying only laxus attack destryed the church, not erzas, if only laxus attack destryed the church why wasnt the remaining attack (after overpowering erza blumblatt) directed at erza. why were they in the same state after it
whether you like it or not, the two attacks canceled out eeach other and the back lash of these two, destroyed the church. stop following silly policy of when in doubt give more feats your favorite
which shown laxus attack is stronger than reiko
what did irene do to that attack, what about ajeel, kagura, azuma, midnight, ikagura did to that attack. other than aria can you name one character taken out by blumblatt.
Cause she was able to weather the explosion. Though the energy it took to do so was the end for her. I mean it clearly shows the swords disappearing into Raiko: RL, then the explosion. Swords don’t explode. So I’m not sure what about that you aren’t sure about. She cast a spell, He cast one in response. Laxus spell disintegrates the sword and explodes, so it’s not like it hit her dead on. They weathered the same blast that sent Kiria flying. Just at ground zero.
It’s not a silly policy because I’m not just assigning feats lol. Honestly I’ve acknowledged more positive attributes for Erza than you have for Laxus. Im not the one trying to rewrite what happened. I don’t really need too. An I really don’t get why Erza fans are so bothered by his victory. Gildarts is stronger than Laxus, that’s a fucking fact. An if Laxus had literally the exact same fight with Gildarts that he just had with Erza only with a reversal, I’d be over the damn moon! An it would still be a loss on Laxus part. An it would still be his most impressive feat so far. It would be a symbolic victory and nothing more.
He fled because of uncertainty that he could win the battle vs the strauss siblings. It's literally shown they weren't able to defeat each other. other DE's going down was obviously a factor but he still states that he doesn't know if him and madmole could defeat them lol
He fled because of uncertainty that he could win the battle vs the strauss siblings. It's literally shown they weren't able to defeat each other. other DE's going down was obviously a factor but he still states that he doesn't know if him and madmole could defeat them lol
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