Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[King Moe]

Now after current chapter, how should we rate power of Selena, Moon Dragon God since it seems she was the one in charge of WW or has a hand in it?

 

[WoWfan]

Will is the same as all talk if she does not do anything, she had help before crashing but doesn‘t change that she could not fight. Saying something is not the same as doing it, hell even fodder avatar did more than her mouth ran, he had no proof that they were outnumbered, simply because they are strong, even during the fight had stated that the two of them are strong, thus rebuking that point

 

[Ramen]

Ok so clearly you can't read so let me out this in simple terms. Kyria was losing the fight and wanted to continue but Skullion would not let her. Even when they go back to the guild she's angry Skullion wouldn't let her continue. Madmole got up right after Purgatory and clearly could keep going. Skullion says they are outnumbered and that's why they left.

Skullion knows FT is on Aldoron so when he senses Kyria and Wraith were defeated, he calls rhe retreat but also comments on the Strauss siblings. He also comments on them being outnumbered.

You trying to say he only ran away because of them is legit wrong.

 

[WoWfan]

right after Skullion helped her out and still could not fight because clearly she could not take care of herself, she was even nervous when Gray made that remark, meaning that she had doubts herself, that or as a sign of fatigue from the fight she went through. She was a shoot first ask questions later person, the fact she did not tells a lot as to her not being able to fight. But then he commons on them being strong which is the case seeing as there is no evidence of being outnumbered in battle in every single instance.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Now after current chapter, how should we rate power of Selena, Moon Dragon God since it seems she was the one in charge of WW or has a hand in it?

nowhere

she might be the mastermind, sure, but we have no idea what powers she has.

 

[WoWfan]

Too bad the WW plot will end here

 

[Ramen]

His words: We are at a disadvantage with only us 3 that is.

That means them being outnumbered. Kyria is not ko'ed. She asked Skullion to put her down but he didn't.

They were clearly outnumbered.

 

[Axiomus]

that means they are simply that strong as Skullion said
Even at his peak he is not as strong as Mira back then and now. they did now, They simply countered his intelligibility, while the siblings could still hurt him regardles, even when Elfman is in base.

Gray was way stronger against Invel and END due to his emotions, and has better feats in those fights than Mirajane has in the entire series.

They didn't counter Skullion's intangibility. Wendy just blew away his ash magic, which distracted him. Then Natsu caught him off guard and punched him in the face. Half of his body was still sand when Natsu went to punch him in the face, and this was after Wendy blew away his sand magic. Skullion can be punched if he simply gets blitzed.

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Elfman was using his lion takeover throughout most of the fight, and it doesn't matter. Even if Elfman was in base, Mirajane was in Satan Soul...and Natsu's FDK Purgatory did more damage to Madmole than both. So no, Mirajane didn't show superior feats to Natsu, Gray, and Wendy. She showed superior feats to Gray. Natsu and Wendy showed superior feats to Mirajane and Elfman, and Natsu specifically has the best showings against Madmole out of everyone.

 

[WoWfan]

Even before that he said, they’re strong, until she actually proves it, she would just as well tumble over, the fact that she could not get away from him is evident.

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Gray was stronger than Invel with the darkness in his heart Power up, and could match that par partial END, Mira still matched that likes of a Spriggan. Ash, not sand, and no evidence of being distracted. And we see him without a take over which he still fought in, and still did not went down

Natsu one shotted him So that is not comparable, Mira was practically weakened while Gray was at peak state, and he still struggled after going all out, she is stronger than Gray

 

[King Moe]

nowhere

she might be the mastermind, sure, but we have no idea what powers she has.

It said Dragon Gods are Acnologia lol, so she can be very powerful to beat in the end.

 

[Demon Hunter]

It said Dragon Gods are Acnologia lol, so she can be very powerful to beat in the end.

sure but I don't believe in hype when it comes to villains in FT anymore

 

[WoWfan]

It said Dragon Gods are Acnologia lol, so she can be very powerful to beat in the end.

Acnologia is not a dragon god, unless I am missing something

 

[Axiomus]

Gray was stronger than Invel with the darkness in his heart Power up, and could match that par partial END, Mira still matched that likes of a Spriggan. Ash, not sand, and no evidence of being distracted. And we see him without a take over which he still fought in, and still did not went down

Natsu one shotted him So that is not comparable, Mira was practically weakened while Gray was at peak state, and he still struggled after going all out, she is stronger than Gray

Call it darkness or whatever. Gray was amped because of his feelings over Juvia's death. He didn't have this against Mirajane, and so wasn't performing at his peak. In this state, Gray brutalized Invel in his base form. END stomped Dimaria so hard she gave up being a mage, and became a farmer. Mirajane matching Jacob, whom Natsu already stomped with demolition fist, is pretty meh. Especially considering Jacob closed his eyes the whole time, and Natsu and Gray literally went through multiple fights by the time she concluded the fight.

Even if Wendy didn't distract Skullion, the simple truth of the matter is Natsu punched Skullion in the face while half his body was intangible. That right there proves that Wendy didn't negate his ability to turn intangible. Skullion simply got blitzed. Natsu and Wendy frustrated Skullion to the point he called for Madmole. Then Natsu overpowered Madmole with Purgatory, which basically blew Skullion's mind. Then afterwards Natsu and Wendy were still in good enough shape to do everything they did against Mercphobia, which means the likelihood of Gray soloing them is extremely low.

So really, all Mirajane has shown this arc is that she's superior to regular Gray.

 

[King Moe]

sure but I don't believe in hype when it comes to villains in FT anymore

Some are proving to be lasting. Diablo Guild isn't defeated in this and WW isn't over yet as well Selene's plans. There could be good stuff ahead. Don't lose hope. Erza has gotten her moments explain and did lost a fight legitly after all.

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Acnologia is not a dragon god, unless I am missing something

Didn't they said all Dragon God's were as powerful as Acnologia when given the mission?

 

[Demon Hunter]

Some are proving to be lasting. Diablo Guild isn't defeated in this and WW isn't over yet as well Selene's plans. There could be good stuff ahead. Don't lose hope. Erza has gotten her moments explain and did lost a fight legitly after all.

I didn't lose hope.

just saying I don't believe they will be stronger than Acnologia.

 

[WoWfan]

Well Gray has access to both darkness and PoF, and since he had to go all out, he would still go PoF on Mira for the sake of saving her even if he doesn’t do it in a manly fashion. Darkness is one of two of his peaks which is stronger than he did with Devil Slayer Magic and base form. END was still stronger than his DK spells anyway which Invel could freeze. Jacob who was incapable of fighting back and could not defend against in his state at that point. Wends did that so Skullion would not be intangible, that means he was back in that state when Wendy’s did her spell.

 

[Axiomus]

Well Gray has access to both darkness and PoF, and since he had to go all out, he would still go PoF on Mira for the sake of saving her even if he doesn’t do it in a manly fashion. Darkness is one of two of his peaks which is stronger than he did with Devil Slayer Magic and base form. END was still stronger than his DK spells anyway which Invel could freeze. Jacob who was incapable of fighting back and could not defend against in his state at that point. Wends did that so Skullion would not be intangible, that means he was back in that state when Wendy’s did her spell.

Gray didn't use POF or Darkness against Mirajane.

FDK is stronger than END powers. It has larger AoE, and Natsu's has used it to beat stronger opponents. Natsu's strongest attacks in the series are all FDK spells. Purgatory is an FDK spell. The attack that defeated Zeref was an FDK spell. The attack that he used in Dragon Force to blow apart Zeref's body was an FDK spell.

Invel never froze FDK flames. And no, creating a circle of fire on the ground doesn't prove Natsu was using FDK. I'm not about to go down this rabbit hole of nonsense with you again. Natsu is only using FDK flames if he says he is, either by entering the mode or using an FDK spell.

Jacob was burning up just being near Natsu. It doesn't matter that Jacob was in midair (not like being in midair prevents you from moving your arms to block anyways). No matter what position Jacob was in, the heat would still effect him.

At no point did Wendy ever manage to negate Skullion's ability to turn intangible. Right after she blew away Skullion's ash magic, half of Skullion's body was still intangible. Natsu went to punch Skullion in the face while he was still half intangible.

 

[LaGOAT]

that means they are simply that strong as Skullion said
Even at his peak he is not as strong as Mira back then and now. they did now, They simply countered his intelligibility, while the siblings could still hurt him regardles, even when Elfman is in base.

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She did win considering she could no longer fight and had outside help

No longer fight? Erza didn’t down her but don’t get me wrong erza would have won regardless.

 

[WoWfan]

It would have had Skullion not saved her and her nervousness and denial and lack of initiative is a common factor too

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Yes Gray did as it is stated he gave it his all, and PoF is part of his all. END is stronger than FDK powers as Invel proved, when he set the earth ablaze the same way he did with Zeref, that is what he did. Jacob was flying through the air unable to fight back. Well Natsu hitting Skullion based on Wendy’s instruction would say the contrary.

 

[Axiomus]

It would have had Skullion not saved her and her nervousness and denial and lack of initiative is a common factor too

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Yes Gray did as it is stated he gave it his all, and PoF is part of his all. END is stronger than FDK powers as Invel proved, when he set the earth ablaze the same way he did with Zeref, that is what he did. Jacob was flying through the air unable to fight back. Well Natsu hitting Skullion based on Wendy’s instruction would say the contrary.

Means nothing because it came from Juvia, who has literally never seen what Gray was like when he fought Invel enraged.

END isn't stronger than FDK. The spell that Natsu used to burn Fairy Heart and beat Zeref was an FDK spell. The dragon force spell that blew apart Zeref's body was an FDK spell. It was an FDK spell that did more damage to Madmole than anything else. Invel never froze FDK. He froze a circle of flames on the ground. Natsu can always set the ground on fire. He's been doing it since before the time-skip. It means nothing. Natsu eventually melted Invel's ice with just his regular flames. Obviously the flames that Natsu used to melt Invel's ice are nowhere near as strong as the flames in FDK Purgatory.

Spoiler: Natsu setting the ground of fire

Spoiler: Natsu breaking out of Invel's ice with regular flames

Natsu hitting Skullion because Wendy told him to doesn't prove that Wendy stripped away Skullion's intangibility because, spoiler alert, Skullion was still intangible. It just means that Wendy saw an opening for Natsu to attack.

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