Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ramen]

I say it's both. He says being outnumbered wasn't a factor and the only reason they retreated because Mira and Elfman. That's legit wrong.

 

[WoWfan]

it is simply because they were stronger than they expected and retreated because of it, numbers are irrelevant with fodder, and it is proven how DE can effortlessly take them down

 

[Ramen]

No it isn't. Laxus, Jellal, Gray, Erza, Elfman, Natsu, Wendy, Gajeel aren't fodder. They literally say they are too strong and they are outnumbered. There's only three of them. Skullion knows that even if he beats Mira and Elfman he has to fight the others so he retreats due to strength and him being outnumbered.

 

[WoWfan]

I never said they weren't, in fact, since all their battles are 1v1 or 2v2, no there were 5 of them, against 5 individuals. It is confirmed to be strength, outnumbered is speculation

 

[Ramen]

I never said they weren't, in fact, since all their battles are 1v1 or 2v2, no there were 5 of them, against 5 individuals. It is confirmed to be strength, outnumbered is speculation

How is it speculation when Skullion says it? And what 5v5? There are only 4 DES but Nebal eventually goes down so it's only 3

 

[WoWfan]

It is confirmed in later pages that it is that they are stronger than expected. no, totally there are 5 DE, which each of them took on one individual, and they were defeated, so they were not outnumbered.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Skullion literally calls the fight a stalemate and states they are leaving after he could not come to a conclusive battle with Mira and Elf. If being outnumbered was the reason to leave the fight then he would have dipped after Wraith and Kiria were dropped which was 5 chapters prior to when he wanted to leave. He only left because the battle bcs he did not know if he could've won and they left Draseal bcs they were outnumbered by powerful FT mages which is why they called the big guns of their guild.

Skullion said they couldn't take Mira and co out at the time but he also says he will settle the score with Mira. Look at my post, I clearly say one of the REASONS he left was being outnumbered. Him having the numbers advantage is always a big thing hence why he fled the first time. Stop ignoring what he said.

EDIT: I just noticed you said they were outnumbered in your own post....

 

[Ramen]

It is confirmed in later pages that it is that they are stronger than expected. no, totally there are 5 DE, which each of them took on one individual, and they were defeated, so they were not outnumbered.

They are stronger than expected AND outnumbered. Wraith goes down and Kyria is ko'ed. Nebal gets Ko'ed so by the time they retreat, it's only Skullion, Madmole, and Kyria. That's three

This debate is pointless, you're literally arguing against the manga

 

[Crimson Ice]

both groups were in the same condition, their injuries are the same, just their clothing covered it up. Then that means Skullion was a moron if he intentionally became tangible making him the worse enemy ever in any series. He clearly had the advantage when he became ash, he was cancelled out when Wendy used her magic for Natsu to hit him, Gray counters Juvia, ice counters water, it is as simple as that. Cat fight as in not using any magic, both of them, turning into water is magic, thus debunking your theory, because Lyon helped fight her too, he did when he said sorry Juvia. Does not change the fact that Gajeel made him tangible regardless, iron was still there to make him tangible, that was just luck, he does not catch him off guard, that is not a factor. Gray uses his ice regardless that counters that.



He said they underestimated their enemies, nothing about being out numbered, that was just speculation, that is fact, you love your state of denial huh?

Skullion literally brings up being outnumbered, you must be illiterate. It makes sense that all your posts stink.

 

[Ramen]

My last point since ya'll literally debating against the manga to boost Mira lmao.

Mira and Elfman stalemated Skullion and Madmole and they retreated because not only is FT too strong for them, but also because they are outnumbered. If they had their s-class, they obviously wouldn't have left

 

[WoWfan]

Skullion literally brings up being outnumbered, you must be illiterate. It makes sense that all your posts stink.

he only said that as a speculation which was confirmed in later pages that FT wizards are just that strong, So you are just in denial

It is simple that the manga supports Mira being strong

 

[Crimson Ice]

he only said that as a speculation which was confirmed in later pages that FT wizards are just that strong, So you are just in denial

It is simple that the manga supports Mira being strong

Two things can be true idiot. All of Skullion's words are printed as speculation because he doesn't know what happened to Kyria and Wraith.

Nowhere did I say Mira isn't powerful. You're just arguing the same points as JKO but in a worse fashion, so I'm done here, I'll just respond to him.

 

[WoWfan]

Two things can be true idiot. All of Skullion's words are printed as speculation because he doesn't know what happened to Kyria and Wraith.

Nowhere did I say Mira isn't powerful. You're just arguing the same points as JKO but in a worse fashion, so I'm done here, I'll just respond to him.

and he later confirmed that it was simply they are strong, and since he sensed they were defeated, there was no reason to continue the fight all this time after such time passed.

I wasn't talking to you about that part, besides, he clearly has common sense, unlike you and your clear bias and limited intelligence.

 

[sharkai]

She was, it literally brought her to her knees. It did more to her than anything any other character in the manga has done to her bar Eileen.

As for Blumenbatt, what's your point? You're going out of you're way to say the attack is weak, why? How does that reflect on Laxus? You saying his peak offense is weaker than Erza's "weakest" attack? That it? That his offense is shit? Ajeel's offense>>>Laxus'?

sometime you should dial down your laxus wank, man
i mean, are you saying blumblatt put laxus to sleep? seriously!
reiko and blumblatt canceled eachother out, resultant explosion destroyed everything. then erza and laxus fell, because of zero mp. laxus finally managed to prove he is superior to erza, in only stamina sure but still



i have no point, other than blumblatt is her weakest attack. there are peope here who are now calling her strongest attack, even though it had literally taken no one out

Cause she was able to weather the explosion. Though the energy it took to do so was the end for her. I mean it clearly shows the swords disappearing into Raiko: RL, then the explosion. Swords don’t explode. So I’m not sure what about that you aren’t sure about. She cast a spell, He cast one in response. Laxus spell disintegrates the sword and explodes, so it’s not like it hit her dead on. They weathered the same blast that sent Kiria flying. Just at ground zero.

It’s not a silly policy because I’m not just assigning feats lol. Honestly I’ve acknowledged more positive attributes for Erza than you have for Laxus. Im not the one trying to rewrite what happened. I don’t really need too. An I really don’t get why Erza fans are so bothered by his victory. Gildarts is stronger than Laxus, that’s a fucking fact. An if Laxus had literally the exact same fight with Gildarts that he just had with Erza only with a reversal, I’d be over the damn moon! An it would still be a loss on Laxus part. An it would still be his most impressive feat so far. It would be a symbolic victory and nothing more.

Ok, proof it’s his strongest?

Didn’t i just name 2?

look at the panel. smoke is covering both laxus and erza. the blast wasnt from laxus, it was from both. that why they were both yelling. that how you literally show two equal attacks

yes you are rewriting the entire thing. there is no indication in the manga anywhere, that the entire damage done was by laxus. laxus got same amount of backlash as erza got

i am not bothered by anything in the manga, i have been proven correct, laxus has always been around erza.
laxus wank from laxus fans annoys me though, i mean calm down to atleast mira level wank, atleast mira fans arent as cult like or as unreasonable as laxus fans are



sigh, laxus wank never stops unlike gildarts and laxus case
laxus was never said to be stronger than erza, ever.





Ok, proof it’s his strongest?
he used it in last arc as his strongest move, has no feats above that. you are basically saying tartaros erza strongest move is not nakagami.

Didn’t i just name 2?
no you suggested they are, with no proof. all those attack have no feats being even around reiko

till he shows something, with feats only then can one make that claim

 

[Axiomus]

There's no Laxus wank going on here. Ever since Laxus was introduced, he was always hyped as the strongest wizard after Gildarts.

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Laxus was stronger than Erza from the beginning of the series. During the Grand Magic Games arc, Erza received second origin and that put her closer to Laxus' level. Now they're on the same level, with Laxus still edging her out.

 

[LaGOAT]

Skullion aided her, yet still cannot fight, you have to look at her personality as well, if she did not fight, she could not fight, like Gray said



Again, whoever is left, 3 vs 3, not outnumbered

Aided her how? He just saved her that’s it.
Show me a panel where kyria disobey skullion?
her personality? She was ready to rumble again https://mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail-100-years-quest-mashima-hiro/i1784205/c16/14
And skullion said ya they were outnumbered 3vs5

 

[sharkai]

There's no Laxus wank going on here. Ever since Laxus was introduced, he was always hyped as the strongest wizard after Gildarts.

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Laxus was stronger than Erza from the beginning of the series. During the Grand Magic Games arc, Erza received second origin and that put her closer to Laxus' level. Now they're on the same level, with Laxus still edging her out.

nice try
he was always hyped as the strongest wizard after Gildarts.

you give one example and say always
i dont even know the context of this
and even in this panel happy is still saying probably, meaning its not a sure thing even to him.


and no laxus wasnt introduced as the strongest wizard. he was introduce as a powerful s class wizard, nothing more (one who hyped himself more sure)

gmg made no real difference
laxus got three months training, erza got SO. almost same boost


and i am not even talking about this
i am talking about @Seven777 saying reiko did more to erza than anyone else bar irene. one attack did that much. but ofcourse he is on your side of the aisle that is why you wont correct him and saying erza fell because of low mp.

or @GL_Nova saying i should be happy erza give laxus an extreme diff fight because he would be if laxus did the same with gildarts. even though gap between gildarts and everyone else had been stated like alot, but gap between laxus and erza isnt even mentioned

 

[Axiomus]

nice try
he was always hyped as the strongest wizard after Gildarts.

you give one example and say always
i dont even know the context of this
and even in this panel happy is still saying probably, meaning its not a sure thing even to him.


and no laxus wasnt introduced as the strongest wizard. he was introduce as a powerful s class wizard, nothing more (one who hyped himself more sure)

gmg made no real difference
laxus got three months training, erza got SO. almost same boost


and i am not even talking about this
i am talking about @Seven777 saying reiko did more to erza than anyone else bar irene. one attack did that much. but ofcourse he is on your side of the aisle that is why you wont correct him and saying erza fell because of low mp.

or @GL_Nova saying i should be happy erza give laxus an extreme diff fight because he would be if laxus did the same with gildarts. even though gap between gildarts and everyone else had been stated like alot, but gap between laxus and erza isnt even mentioned

What more do you need? They were talking about how strong Laxus is, and Happy literally says that Laxus is probably the strongest wizard in the guild after Gildarts. If you truly want more examples, then Laxus outscored Erza in all stats on the GMG cards. Mirajane was uncertain if she and Erza combined could take Jura, and then Laxus went ahead and beat Jura. Erza literally obtained another container of magic with second origin. 3 months is nothing compared to that. More time passed from Harvest Festival to Tenrou Island.

Laxus was first introduced when Mystogan put everyone to sleep. Only Makarov and Laxus were strong enough to resist his sleep magic. So the dude literally made his entrance by resisting something that put Erza to sleep.

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Then like a chapter later, when Natsu went off to Galuna Island, Makarov says that Laxus is the only one that has the power to bring Natsu back by force.

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@Seven777 is right. Imperial red lightning did do more to Erza than any other character except Irene. What other attack has forced Erza to completely exhaust her MP and pass out? Oh right, I remember that you think Erza's true benisakura sword uses more MP. I guess these random unnamed attacks did more than imperial red lightning, and caused Erza to spend most of her MP.

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Are you not happy Erza gave Laxus and extreme difficulty fight? What's the issue here? How is @GL_Nova saying he would be happy if Laxus gave Gildarts an extreme difficulty fight amount to him wanking Laxus?

 

[sharkai]

What more do you need? They were talking about how strong Laxus is, and Happy literally says that Laxus is probably the strongest wizard in the guild after Gildarts. If you truly want more examples, then Laxus outscored Erza in all stats on the GMG cards. Mirajane was uncertain if she and Erza combined could take Jura, and then Laxus went ahead and beat Jura. Erza literally obtained another container of magic with second origin. 3 months is nothing compared to that. More time passed from Harvest Festival to Tenrou Island.

is this ff arc? if so, its standard enemy hype. like marakrov told natsu not to fight zancrow. nothing more.
again happy is not sure, he based it on how fast laxus beat natsu.
for this you would need laxus vs natsu and erza vs natsu. but you have a bully laxus on one side and caring but strict bid sister on the other side

laxus gmg stats compared to pre skip erza stats mate

markarov was certain non one could fight the springgan, so do you belive neinhart >>> laxus or not? (that your mira hype)

they are the same
pre ts natsu= pre ts gajeel
gmg natsu=gmg gajeel

More time passed from Harvest Festival to Tenrou Island.
whats your point

Laxus was first introduced when Mystogan put everyone to sleep. Only Makarov and Laxus were strong enough to resist his sleep magic. So the dude literally made his entrance by resisting something that put Erza to sleep.

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Then like a chapter later, when Natsu went off to Galuna Island, Makarov says that Laxus is the only one that has the power to bring Natsu back by force.

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lol
how do you know laxus wasnt sleep?
you do releaze laxus did reserch on mystogan right? you do realize he has freed right?

@Seven777 is right. Imperial red lightning did do more to Erza than any other character except Irene. What other attack has forced Erza to completely exhaust her MP and pass out? Oh right, I remember that you think Erza's true benisakura sword uses more MP. I guess these random unnamed attacks did more than imperial red lightning, and caused Erza to spend most of her MP.

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Are you not happy Erza gave Laxus and extreme difficulty fight? What's the issue here? How is @GL_Nova saying he would be happy if Laxus gave Gildarts an extreme difficulty fight amount to him wanking Laxus?

not surprising that you cant even recognize your own wank
so entire fight had no effect what so ever? i mean i guess laxus was taken out by just blumblatt nothing else. i should just go around now saying erza one shot laxus with blumblatt. unbelievable

are you that blind, na just the wank

but dont worry, i will follow your advise
once natsu give a high diff fight to erza, i will go around saying you should be happy, i will be too, if erza did the same with aconologia

get over yourself
gap between gaildart and laxus was huge
the gap between laxus and erza is non exsistant

 

[Axiomus]

is this ff arc? if so, its standard enemy hype. like marakrov told natsu not to fight zancrow. nothing more.
again happy is not sure, he based it on how fast laxus beat natsu.
for this you would need laxus vs natsu and erza vs natsu. but you have a bully laxus on one side and caring but strict bid sister on the other side

laxus gmg stats compared to pre skip erza stats mate

markarov was certain non one could fight the springgan, so do you belive neinhart >>> laxus or not? (that your mira hype)

they are the same
pre ts natsu= pre ts gajeel
gmg natsu=gmg gajeel

More time passed from Harvest Festival to Tenrou Island.
whats your point


lol
how do you know laxus wasnt sleep?
you do releaze laxus did reserch on mystogan right? you do realize he has freed right?


not surprising that you cant even recognize your own wank
so entire fight had no effect what so ever? i mean i guess laxus was taken out by just blumblatt nothing else. i should just go around now saying erza one shot laxus with blumblatt. unbelievable

are you that blind, na just the wank

but dont worry, i will follow your advise
once natsu give a high diff fight to erza, i will go around saying you should be happy, i will be too, if erza did the same with aconologia

get over yourself
gap between gaildart and laxus was huge
the gap between laxus and erza is non exsistant

Any reason to doubt Happy here? He's being pretty accurate, and it's not like he's biased against Erza (not like you are against Laxus). Makarov had no idea how strong Fairy Tail got because he hadn't seen them for a year. Not the case when he says Laxus is the only one with the power to bring Natsu back by force.

"Pre-timeskip Erza" is the exact same as Erza without second origin. So, thank you for proving my point. Laxus was stronger than Erza until she received second origin. In fact even now after she received second origin, he's still stronger. Also, second origin is way more of a power-up than 3 months of training. The example you provided doesn't even work, because Gajeel wasn't on the same level as Natsu. This was actually pointed out to him twice.

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Pretty obvious that Laxus wasn't asleep because he knows what Mystogan is like. Others don't because Mystogan puts them to sleep all the time. It's the whole point of that interaction. What did you think Mystogan just chose to show Laxus his face because he felt like it? They don't even like each other. Also, if Mystogan could put Laxus to sleep, you'd think he'd do it in the fight.

I just gave you like 5 examples of why Laxus has been portrayed as stronger than Erza since the beginning of the series. Including one you did not address: Mirajane lacks confidence that she and Erza combined can take on Jura, whom Laxus beat. Your only response to this is to simply call this wank. None of this is wank. Saying red lightning did more to Erza than any of Erza's previous opponents except for Irene is not wank. Saying that you would be happy if Laxus gave Gildarts an extreme diff is not wank. @GL_Nova is not even saying he thinks Laxus can give Gildarts an extreme difficulty fight. He's just saying he would be happy if he could. Wank is pretending that Erza held back against Laxus because Laxus' wounds healed quickly.