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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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I'm pretty sure someone's gonna bring Watsuki's pedo stuff anyway so might as well be the first to do so.. So this question just popped into my mind.. Oda knows Watsuki because he was his assistant and he worked alongside Shimabukuro who also had problems with lolis and law.. So like do you think Oda knew of Watsuki's pedo stuff? Also I heard lolicon stuff like magazines with actual girls was legal in Japan like 5 years ago or something, so maybe Oda just didn't care?
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I heard somewhere that all the leaks of the color pages of WSJ came early (wednesday/thursday) because they're from places in Japan that have the Jump before monday's release, like specific places or island or idk. Is it true? In that case is it legal/illegal to share it?
This is just anecdotal, as it's a memory I have of an almost 10 year post which isn't even verifiable but I do remember it was posted by a trustworthy member which apparently read that in 2ch.. So I guess it's kinda reliable..

So.. And my memory might be a bit fuzzy here, but a long time ago (I'm talking probably 2007-ish) we used to get chapters for OP, Naruto and BLEACH scanlated (or maybe just RAWs I don't really remember) as early as Tuesday, yeah, almost a week in advance from the street date.

And I remember this was posted around the time of the Tohoku earthquake (2011) and I think the source is 2ch, I'm not gonna check my post history from back then.. but anyway someone said that apparently the person that used to leak WSJ RAWs always bought them from a liquor store, and he/she had to like go to this liquor store in a random town in the middle of a rural place in Japan.. This is where things get fuzzy because I think it was in the middle of a storm?

I don't remember but I'm pretty sure this person that used to scan old WSJ Raws got them from a liquor store that sold WSJ almost a week before street date , very likely a friend of his/her that sold it exclusively to him/her in advance..

And this mysterious leaker apparently provided the RAWs this one week where NO ONE expected the RAWs to be scanned because of a natural disaster (That's why I assume it was the Tohoku Earthquake.. But I honestly don't remember if it was a typhoon or something like that).

I deeply remember this because I thought to myself. "Holy sh*t! Thanks, kind stranger, thanks to you I can read my favorite manga this week, but really.. Just be safe lol."
 

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I'm pretty sure someone's gonna bring Watsuki's pedo stuff anyway so might as well be the first to do so.. So this question just popped into my mind.. Oda knows Watsuki because he was his assistant and he worked alongside Shimabukuro who also had problems with lolis and law.. So like do you think Oda knew of Watsuki's pedo stuff? Also I heard lolicon stuff like magazines with actual girls was legal in Japan like 5 years ago or something, so maybe Oda just didn't care?
Why you're doing this? -_-
 

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Why you're doing this?
I'd like to read about other's opinions on this, maybe some user knows something I don't, etc. I think I understand where you are going with your post, "It's something that's not provable", still it's interesting to speculate, maybe someone knows something Oda said a certain week in a TOC.. Some weird trivia I didn't know.., Idk dude lol but yeah I get your point, if you don't want to continue my train of thought then just don't.
 

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Not so fun fact: Oda has two daughters, one is currently around 13-14 years old, which means she falls smack-dab into the range of underage girls that Watsuki likes, as he told the police that he "liked girls in late elementary school to around the second year of middle school."

While of course Oda most likely wouldn't start to shun his old mentor, one would think that this may cause Oda to at least rethink doing promotional stuff like this with Watsuki, but apparently not. Figures.
 

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I'd like to read about other's opinions on this, maybe some user knows something I don't, etc. I think I understand where you are going with your post, "It's something that's not provable", still it's interesting to speculate, maybe someone knows something Oda said a certain week in a TOC.. Some weird trivia I didn't know.., Idk dude lol but yeah I get your point, if you don't want to continue my train of thought then just don't.
There's a worlds difference between debating some minor trivial detail...and asking if Oda was complicit in the circulation of underage pornography.

Not so fun fact: Oda has two daughters, one is currently around 13-14 years old, which means she falls smack-dab into the range of underage girls that Watsuki likes, as he told the police that he "liked girls in late elementary school to around the second year of middle school."

While of course Oda most likely wouldn't start to shun his old mentor, one would think that this may cause Oda to at least rethink doing promotional stuff like this with Watsuki, but apparently not. Figures.
I mean, Oda had Sanji (21) going heart eyes over Pudding (16), so make you own conclusions.
 

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Yeah, I won't lie, that's really bothersome to me. I would hope Oda wouldn't have anything to do with Watsuki anymore, but that's not the case.
 

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Hold up, didn't bnha reach 26m back in December?
 

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There's a worlds difference between debating some minor trivial detail...and asking if Oda was complicit in the circulation of underage pornography.



I mean, Oda had Sanji (21) going heart eyes over Pudding (16), so make you own conclusions.
Where did I even imply he was complicit in the circulation of cp lol? chill out dudes..

This is the one part of my post where I talked about it:
So like do you think Oda knew of Watsuki's pedo stuff?

Besides, again, one more time, a little thing I wrote in my original post:
Loli magazines (As in cp) was legal in Japan until 2014 Oda was assistant to Watsuki during Ruroken's run, and he started OP in 1997 so he probably was Watsuki's assistant from around 1994ish-1996ish, hence Watsuki's magazines weren't illegal at the time of Oda being his assistant. Even if Oda knew about those magazines.. Heck even if Oda Idk bought magazines for Watsuki, like you know an errand boy would do, "Ey Oda-kun go buy me this week's CP" that would have totally been legal.

I don't even know if I'm allowed to post dark humor here lol.. Don't want any snowflakes to get mad.

Anyway.. I'm gonna rephrase my question, "Do you think maybe Eiichiro Oda knew of Watsuki's cp collection (which at the time would have been something completely legal), btw this is the same Eiichiro Oda who in 2004 actively promoted his just released out of prison for violating child prostitution laws dear friend Shimabukuro's new work Ring (TOC April 12, 2004).

I mean at this point it's pretty clear that Oda is "cool" with what Shimabu did, he's one of the few mangakas that still called him a friend and gave him shout-out in WSJ, which I guess in a sense I kind of "admire" Oda's loyalty..

I really don't think it's that far-fetched that if Oda knew of Watsuki's cp he would have been "cool" with it, I mean he's certainly Ok with collaborating with these two regardless of their actions.

But you know what guys just put me on silence because maybe my posts are not for you, I always make crazy "what if"scenarios and ask weird questions that are just based on assumptions. Let's just keep talking about this week manga.
 

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Oda knows Watsuki because he was his assistant and he worked alongside Shimabukuro who also had problems with lolis and law..
What Shimabu did doesn't fall into the loli category, though.

Anyway, your post is a stretch that Luffy would be impressed by.
 

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Hold up, didn't bnha reach 26m back in December?
It did. This isn’t really news, but It’s weird that we didn’t get new print numbers.

Also, is this discussion gonna swerve into whether loli content is pedophilia or not? We already have governments debating this, I’d rather not do it here.
 

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I mean at this point it's pretty clear that Oda is "cool" with what Shimabu did
He tried to hire a prostitute.

There's no evidence Shimabu actually knew the girl was underage.

And even assuming he did (which, again, there's no evidence of) the girl was just barely (less than a year, IIRC) under the age of consent.

So really, the only thing Shimabu is definitively guilty of is wanting to have sex with a prostitute.
 

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I mean, Oda had Sanji (21) going heart eyes over Pudding (16), so make you own conclusions.
I know why you have a problem, since one character is a minor. However, that's still just 5 years of difference.

I would have a lot more problems with early Dragon Ball (Master Roshi and Bulma).
 

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I don't even know if I'm allowed to post dark humor here lol.. Don't want any snowflakes to get mad.
Are you saying people aren't allowed to object you arguing that Oda was involved in trafficking CP?

Also, never, ever say "snowflakes". Especially in this context.
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I know why you have a problem, since one character is a minor. However, that's still just 5 years of difference.

I would have a lot more problems with early Dragon Ball (Master Roshi and Bulma).
Trust me, I don't like Roshi, but I'm able to see it as akin to the racist jokes in old theatrical animations, it's a form of comedy we have thankfully tried to move beyond. Kinda.
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Seems Hatomune's gone and uploaded another chapter onto twitter to promote Vol 2.
 
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