Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Vis]

because she was weakened before, you don't care because it is not part of your headcannon. for Sitri, that depends if she actual went all out. this is from the official translation. She was weakened and she did not even put all her power behind it. because she did not put everything she had left into it. It is no excuse where even statements have shown in the past she she was not even strong like her former self, it took until GMG to be atleast strong or stronger than her top tier self

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about now, but I don't care not because it's not part of my headcanon, but because it's not relevant to what I was discussing with the person I was talking to before you responded to me.

The argument is that Mirajane has always had inferior performance than Erza, no matter what arc is in question. The person I was speaking to said Mirajane had comparable performance to Erza in Tenroujima (and Tartaros, but we're not talking about that); same arc where Mirajane lost to Azuma because she didn't have enough magical power to take him out whereas Erza was able to beat a stronger version of Azuma then went on to help fight Hades.

Whatever defensiveness or reasons you have against that is really irrelevant and not something I'm interested in hearing about. If Mirajane admits to being incapable of beating Azuma; then she's incapable of beating Azuma. By extension, she has definitively worse performance than someone who can beat a superior version of Azuma.

Unless you can bring up a valid point on why Mirajane did perform on a similar level to Erza, then you're bringing up a strawman argument.
Because yes, by GMG, Mirajane may have arguably caught up to Erza at the beginning of the series, but at this point, Erza has also improved significantly. You can call Sitri level 'top tier' all you want, but it was still massively inferior to Erza who beat up someone superior to the person who stomped Sitri. So the gap was still there, if anything, it was getting bigger. Does this change the fact that Erza performed way better than Mirajane in Tenroujima? No. Does it change the fact that Erza performed way better than Mirajane in Tartaros? Also, no.

 

[WoWfan]

I am not arguing that Mira is not inferior to Erza, but the fact that in most of her battles (Including with Skullion) she does not go all out. Again, she is incapable of stopping him because of being weakened and not going all out. She has had that flaw in the beginning of the series. Sitri is only top tier if she gives it her all. that is all

 

[Axiomus]

It is tho... It literally combines into one attack. And no natsu and gajeel didn't combine thiers against laxus. they just fired it at the same time and it hit him from two different angles.

So you saying WSD silk can beat base natsu? Can you prove this?

His attack disappeared long b4 he was even affected by the motion sickness. In one page natsu and acno are charging at each other with their attacks. it cuts to the outside for a few pages and when it comes back both of their attacks are gone. Most likely there was supposed to be some kind of exchange here but mashima cut it out and the anime couldn't find time to add it in. But in terms of the last attack acno was only rendered immobile. Nothing happened to his durability.

I mean that's just how it is. There's a lot of things that the mages of fairy tail and their enemies could be doing that would make them a lot more effective. I.e natsu carrying a lighter and some wood around with him to refill when he's empty. It simply doesn't happen cause the author doesn't want it to happen.

That's just the roars mixing together. That doesn't make it an unison raid. Natsu and Gajeel's roars mixed together too. You can see in the middle panel, Natsu's flames and Gajeel's iron are swirling around the beam, just like it does when they combined it with Wendy later.

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Base Natsu easily overcame Flash Fang with his exploding flame blade. Jiemma was supposedly stronger than the other 9 demon gates, and Natsu couldn't put down Tempester with exploding lightning blade (which is the LFD version of the attack that overpowered Flash fang). Also future Rogue used it to beat Natsu.

Motion sickness wasn't the reason his magic dissappeared. Motion sickness was just there to make sure he was easier to capture in Fairy Sphere. He could actually still move within the Fairy Sphere, and he was actually body slamming the Sphere to crack it. Spirit Acnologia's magic was unaffected at this point. Then Melody came in and linked the entire continent to Lucy, which made Fairy Sphere stronger. It was only at this point that Acnologia was sealed to the point where he couldn't move, and subsequently his spirit form's magic attack also disappeared.

Spoiler: Fairy Sphere powered with everyone's magic prevents Acnologia from moving

Spoiler: Acnologia's magic attack dissappears, and he realizes he can't move

 

[WoWfan]

Motion sickness is the reason he could not move with Fairy Sphere because that is how slayers lose their immunity

 

[Aurelius]

Official Translation

Fairy Tail Vol.26 Chapter 220: Fairy Sisters

Read Fairy Tail Vol.26 Chapter 220: Fairy Sisters Page 15; A young celestial mage, Lucy Heartfilia, runs away from home and travels to the land of Fiore to join the magical Fairy Tail Guild. Along the way, she meets Natsu Dragneel, a teenage boy looking for his foster parent, a dragon named...

mangapark.net

Confused on this site it says maybe, but on four other sites all says she used her full power.
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[WoWfan]

Confused on this site it says maybe, but on four other sites all says she used her full power.

Those sites do not have the official translation then, Panda and Fox either the same translator or from different sites, besides I do not trust them, especially the late MS

 

[Aurelius]

Those sites do not have the official translation then, besides I do not trust them, especially the late MS

Additionally on the same site, version panda and fox both translate to her saying she used her full power. So that’s six places now that says full power

 

[WoWfan]

Panda and Fox either the same translator or from different sites,

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again, Official Translation

 

[Aurelius]

Panda and Fox either the same translator or from different sites,

Why should I trust the one who posted when I found six other sources that all say she used her full power, especially 2 on the same site you showed me?

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Like I am generally curious, lol

 

[WoWfan]

again, Official translation, I even have the volume itself that said "Maybe" nothing about her giving it her all

 

[Axiomus]

Motion sickness is the reason he could not move with Fairy Sphere because that is how slayers lose their immunity

No. It's not. Acnologia was body slamming while he was on the boat and actually breaking the Fairy Sphere. He would have broken free if not for the fact that Melody came in and linked everyone's magic to Lucy, making the spell stronger. It was only after Acnologia was fully sealed that his spirit form's magic attack disappeared.

 

[Aurelius]

again, Official translation, I even have the volume itself that said "Maybe" nothing about her giving it her all

But where does it show official translation on version Rock. And I don’t know you so I can’t take your word on this,lol

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@Axiomus can you confirm that the one site @WoWfan posted is the official translation?

 

[WoWfan]

But where does it show official translation on version Panda. And I don’t know you so I can’t take your word on this,lol

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@Axiomus can you confirm that the one site @WoWfan posted is the official translation?

Panda does not have official, MangaRock does

 

[Aurelius]

Oops that’s what I meant

 

[WoWfan]

No. It's not. Acnologia was body slamming while he was on the boat and actually breaking the Fairy Sphere. He would have broken free if not for the fact that Melody came in and linked everyone's magic to Lucy, making the spell stronger. It was only after Acnologia was fully sealed that his spirit form's magic attack disappeared.

So? Natsu, Sting and Gajeel can move too while they are motion sick, that does not mean they have their immunity, Fairy Sphere would not be strong enough with just FT because Acno is just that strong, he is still removed of his immunity

 

[Axiomus]

But where does it show official translation on version Panda. And I don’t know you so I can’t take your word on this,lol

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@Axiomus can you confirm that the one site @WoWfan posted is the official translation?

It is. But it doesn't matter. Mirajane is saying "Maybe if I put all of my power into it...." and then after considering it for a moment, she says that she's not strong enough. I don't see how anyone can possibly interpret this as Mirajane saying she could have taken Azuma.

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So? Natsu, Sting and Gajeel can move too while they are motion sick, that does not mean they have their immunity, Fairy Sphere would not be strong enough with just FT because Acno is just that strong, he is still removed of his immunity

Natsu is still resistant to fire while he is on a train.

 

[WoWfan]

She is not strong enough because she is not at her full power, she even said as she is now she could not win

No, Phantom Lord confirms he cannot resist fire while Motion Sick, and he did not tank fire on a train

 

[Aurelius]

Thanks @Axiomus and @WoWfan, sorry about that. You got my trust regarding translations.

Damn I feel deceived, lol

 

[Axiomus]

She is not strong enough because she is not at her full power,

No, Phantom Lord confirms he cannot resist fire while Motion Sick

Dude. Natsu never even got motion sick in Phantom Lord. He can still set his hands on fire without burning himself on a moving train.

Spoiler

 

[WoWfan]

Thanks @Axiomus and @WoWfan, sorry about that. You got my trust regarding translations.

Damn I feel deceived, lol

No need to feel that way

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Dude. Natsu never even got motion sick in Phantom Lord. He can still set his hands on fire without burning himself on a moving train.

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he did, when he fought Totomaru, he even stated that in his condition he cannot be resist fire spells, even Natsu was nervous because he would be in trouble. I said resist fire, not project fire, why would his own flames hurt him?