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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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Or maybe it was the plan all the time, the manga is even getting a color page for the Rizu route, it doesnt seem like something decided last week because some twitter complains.
It's definitely not some last minute thing. The last chapter of a series can't be moved so easily. If Tsutsui went to his editors a chapter or two before what was supposed to be his last chapter to ask for more chapters, they'd have little choice but to tell him no as the magazine would have already been making plans for future issues based on the fact that Bokuben would end then. That's not even considering the lead time needed. The deadline for issue #15 would have been right after the current issue went to print. Once #14 went on sale and they started getting feedback from actual paying customers, there'd be no time in which to agree on the plan and make the necessary changes to advertise a continuation. Much less to actually produce the additional chapters.

No, this has been planned for a while. Possibly their solution to Tsutsui's planned winner not being the most popular girl, while the most popular girl absolutely crushed the others in popularity. Or it could just be Tsutsui wanting to have VN style multiple endings.
 

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Or maybe it was the plan all the time, the manga is even getting a color page for the Rizu route, it doesnt seem like something decided last week because some twitter complains.
Clearly it was planned in advance. My major concern is people will ignore the girl who first won and had several chapters of build up and a lot of foreshadowing that she'd be picked, and instead will declare the "canon" winner to be one of the girls who literally get 1-2 chapters crammed in after the fact and no build up by comparison. Which is completely fine in their own mind, but that does not change the girl he ACTUALLY chose. That's all I wanted to be clear.
 

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Guardian of the witch will get extra pages in the next issue.
I don't know if that means it is well received, after all Agravity boys also had it and is at the botton.
I think this is a sign that the editorial team is supporting him, as well as supporting Undead unluck.
 

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Clearly it was planned in advance. My major concern is people will ignore the girl who first won and had several chapters of build up and a lot of foreshadowing that she'd be picked, and instead will declare the "canon" winner to be one of the girls who literally get 1-2 chapters crammed in after the fact and no build up by comparison. Which is completely fine in their own mind, but that does not change the girl he ACTUALLY chose. That's all I wanted to be clear.
The funny thing is, many fans argue that the actual winner wasn't built up all that well.
 

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The funny thing is, many fans argue that the actual winner wasn't built up all that well.
But she WAS built up to, is my argument. For most of the last volume and a half, or so. Unlike the other girls, who didn't have near as much going on recently. I didn't say it was a GOOD build up, I just said she actually HAD one.
 

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The funny thing is, many fans argue that the actual winner wasn't built up all that well.
She was build up well. The complainers just didn't paid enough attention and just salty their best girl didn't won.
It was kinda refreshing though, not the titular/first girl.
 

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Clearly it was planned in advance. My major concern is people will ignore the girl who first won and had several chapters of build up and a lot of foreshadowing that she'd be picked, and instead will declare the "canon" winner to be one of the girls who literally get 1-2 chapters crammed in after the fact and no build up by comparison. Which is completely fine in their own mind, but that does not change the girl he ACTUALLY chose. That's all I wanted to be clear.
Well, sorry but Uruka-who? Kirisu-sensei, here i go! :jir_thumb
 

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Well, sorry but Uruka-who? Kirisu-sensei, here i go! :jir_thumb
Oh, no, I never said it was wrong to like the other girls. I like all of them well enough and didn't particularly mind who won, I just think who DID win made the most sense in the context of the story and Yuiga's happiness.
 

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I'd bet, more than anything else like to satisfy fans or whatever, Tsutsui himself probably wants to draw alternate endings for each girl. When you've been writing a story for 3+ years every week you'd want every character to get their happy end (and WNL is heavy on the comedy side of romcoms, it's all about seeing happy and cute girls).

But does it specifically say 5 chapters anywhere or give an order to the alternate chapters? Since that'd be a weird number considering Uruka already has her ending, and there's 4 other main girls (unless it does a sister end??).
 

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I'd bet, more than anything else like to satisfy fans or whatever, Tsutsui himself probably wants to draw alternate endings for each girl. When you've been writing a story for 3+ years every week you'd want every character to get their happy end (and WNL).

Does it specifically say 5 chapters anywhere? Since that'd be a weird number considering Uruka already has her ending, and there's 4 other main girls (unless it does a sister end??).
I DON'T THINK A JUMP SERIES WOULD GO IN THAT DIRECTION
 

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Could also do a harem end chapter, though even To Love Ru didn't have the balls to actually go through with that despite building it so much.
 

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The "every girl gets a what if" win does feel like a really cheap cop out. In my mind, this in no way changes the fact that the first girl he picked is the canon one in my mind (or he wouldn't have shown it first), but I guess if it keeps people from sending the author death/suicide threats because their favorite fictional character didn't get with the MC, it's fine by me.
It's so his fandom will cooldown, cuz he know he would get backlashed for that 1 winner.
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... I will just say I'm glad I never liked WNL, so I don't really care... because that's honestly terrible to me. But eh, looking from the sidelines, I can just be amazed and laugh at it.
You spoke the words out my mouth
 

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I would've liked Nisekoi a bit more if they got Naoshi to do this so I can see my best girl in the most beautiful wedding dress ever. That, and it would've hit a million tankobon sales for the first and last time ever thanks to Y-san's efforts. (For the record, my waifu isn't Marika.)
 

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But she WAS built up to, is my argument. For most of the last volume and a half, or so. Unlike the other girls, who didn't have near as much going on recently. I didn't say it was a GOOD build up, I just said she actually HAD one.
Tbf, it's more like Uruka had the only build-up of all the harem girls involved. Rizu was pretty much a big titty cute squirrel through-out most of the series for the MC, Fumino committed romance suicide by always worrying more about Rizu and Uruka and less about her own feelings, Senpai had 0 chance and while Sensei is sex on legs and all in all a fun and exciting character which got many reasons why it gathered so many fans, she was far too responsible to date a student. That negation alone leaves only Uruka as sole end girl for Yuiga.
 
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I would've liked Nisekoi a bit more if they got Naoshi to do this so I can see my best girl in the most beautiful wedding dress ever. That, and it would've hit a million tankobon sales for the first and last time ever thanks to Y-san's efforts. (For the record, my waifu isn't Marika.)
All this discussion is making me think is that harem might be an inherently flawed genre on some level.
 

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I'd bet, more than anything else like to satisfy fans or whatever, Tsutsui himself probably wants to draw alternate endings for each girl. When you've been writing a story for 3+ years every week you'd want every character to get their happy end (and WNL is heavy on the comedy side of romcoms, it's all about seeing happy and cute girls).

But does it specifically say 5 chapters anywhere or give an order to the alternate chapters? Since that'd be a weird number considering Uruka already has her ending, and there's 4 other main girls (unless it does a sister end??).
That's actually a really good point. I'm all for seeing the cute girls be happy.
 
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