Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Samael Morningstar]

Ok ok .
Are you really being serious or just trolling because if I remember correctly a few months before you were telling that no one in FT goes beyond multi continental or something and now you're telling they're universal lmao

 

[WoWfan]

His fire is is magic and the doll is magic that is connected to Lucy and so his magic did combine with Lucy, thus Lucy Fire. when did she use her own magic? Darkness is exclusive to Black Magic and Curses, although I can see that is the reason for the seeds growth despite the dragon antibodies keeping him from growing into a dragon since he had the demon seed as well. Irene did not show any darkness which is a contradiction as to how it works. It does as Invel makes the darkness of the heart connected to Black Magic, that is how it works, anyone being that it causes black magic to rise. seeds of darkness are not black magic and do not work that way. Irene is just strong and Acnologia eats magic. Zeref and Hades has black magic, that resentment and guilt has nothing to do with magic she has learned overtime. Hades did not teach tartaros magic, Gray uses black magic via Devil Slayer Magic.

 

[WoWfan]

Ok ok .
Are you really being serious or just trolling because if I remember correctly a few months before you were telling that no one in FT goes beyond multi continental or something and now you're telling they're universal lmao

That was before looking much more closely as to the details of the series and doing calcs, and even Etherion is much stronger than you realize.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Still universal is a big stretch you keep it, I'm fine with planetary FT

 

[atlantisreturns]

I don't know why even bother doing such stupid calculations for FT , or any shounen for that matter , shounen authors don't think about such stuff while writing the stories which leads to inconsistencies since they don't follow that pattern. If they don't follow the tiering pattern , it should be obvious to us that the feats in shounen aren't meant to be calculated like that.

Originally the tiering system was invented for comic books like DC and Marvel where the authors write comics while actually keeping scientific tiering in mind. If we apply tiering for shounen manga then you get some ridiculous BS like universal Sasuke and multiversal Yhwach and it just makes you look like a wanker.

 

[WoWfan]

if you are referring to the stats system, shonen do the same thing with their own statistics books, etc..

 

[Axiomus]

Making rain is still requires energy, and has the characteristics of real rain as well, Magic is part of nature as well since both their spirit and nature emerged together to form magic. Besides, the storm that formed around them covered the entire sky, as well as generated earthquakes. Again, quality over quantity, he skills above the Phoenix which would have burned the entire world.

I think you fail To realize just how much power is behind it, the mass of storm clouds covering the entire sky is and the speed to cover it

.5*10083259300000*6666.66666667^2= 224072428889112961318 joules = 53 gigatons (Island Level)

and i never said she was Erza level, just that she was not at full power and weakened

and your images are broken as well

Oh, you're ridiculous.

Makarov and Jose making a bunch of clouds swirl is island level? I guess Arlock is stronger the god of war he summoned, and Acnologia's eternal flare too.

Spoiler

 

[WoWfan]

Clouds cover the entire sky, thunderclouds, as well as earthquakes, and your image is broken. Acnologia scales to/above Phoenix which would destroy the entire world, nice try

 

[atlantisreturns]

if you are referring to the stats system, shonen do the same thing with their own statistics books, etc..

No , they do that with relative to their in verse characters , they don't keep stuff like continent level and hypersonic speed in mind , and especially not FT

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Oh, you're ridiculous.

Makarov and Jose making a bunch of clouds swirl is island level? I guess Arlock is stronger the god of war he summoned, and Acnologia's eternal flare too.

Spoiler

You don't know bro, it's CaLcS stuff

 

[WoWfan]

No , they do that with relative to their in verse characters , they don't keep stuff like continent level and hypersonic speed in mind , and especially not FT

It is not like Comics are guiltless of inconsistency’s as well with ridicul showings, like Spider-Man webbing Thanos who could react to faster than light characters. Or Batman punching Darkseid.

 

[Axiomus]

Clouds cover the entire sky, thunderclouds, as well as earthquakes, and your image is broken. Acnologia scales to/above Phoenix which would destroy the entire world, nice try

If your only excuse is that you can't see my images, you need to try harder. Anyways Arlock made more clouds swirl than Makarov and Jose combined when he was summoning Ikusatsunagi. I guess Arlock had more attack power than Iksuatsunagi actually splitting mountains and Acnologia's eternal flare too.

Eternal flare scales to above base Acnologia's attacks lmao. You tried to claim Makarov and Jose making the clouds swirl, creating a lightning bolt, and making some waves is more impressive than Eternal literally blowing up multiple islands with small cities on them.

 

[WoWfan]

You’re not want to talk with your excuses, at least I am not alone in not seeing you images , get off my back, Those clouds are not the same mass as ones Makarov or Jose summoned, they are small. And base Acno has higher AP attacks than EF, which he already scales above world destroying feats

 

[Verter]

Semi-offtopic, but need to mention ppl here underestimated Ikusatsunagi, only because Natsu so easily defeat it.

Well it was pre-Alvares Natsu, not current nerfed one (100 YQ),

 

[atlantisreturns]

It is not like Comics are guiltless of inconsistency’s as well with ridicul showings, like Spider-Man webbing Thanos who could react to faster than light characters. Or Batman punching Darkseid.

Oh no , never said that they don't have inconsistencies of their own , they too have characters which job on a regular basis. It's that they basically follow the tiering system of vs battle wiki for judging their characters' strength. If they want to show a character as more powerful than another one , they'll actually bust stuff , not just statements. They'll actually show a universe being destroyed as compared to a planet , they'll actually destroy shit according to the scale as mentioned by the wiki. Shounen autbors on the other hand couldn't care less whether a planet or a continent gets busted , in fact they don't pay attention to such stuff at all. All they care is who is more powerful in their respective verses. So you've to rely on the story to understand who's stronger. Because someone busted a island doesn't automatically mean he's stronger than someone who busted a mpuntain in shounen , in comics it does.

That's also the same reason why the Goku vs Superman debate always leads to nowhere.

 

[Hexbend]

RoT Acno should be continental considering he should be well above Etherion

As cloud thing, moving or clearing thunderstorm clouds is indeed impressive. Natsu clearing the clouds above Iku when he used demo fist should be island lvl

 

[Axiomus]

His fire is is magic and the doll is magic that is connected to Lucy and so his magic did combine with Lucy, thus Lucy Fire. when did she use her own magic? Darkness is exclusive to Black Magic and Curses, although I can see that is the reason for the seeds growth despite the dragon antibodies keeping him from growing into a dragon since he had the demon seed as well. Irene did not show any darkness which is a contradiction as to how it works. It does as Invel makes the darkness of the heart connected to Black Magic, that is how it works, anyone being that it causes black magic to rise. seeds of darkness are not black magic and do not work that way. Irene is just strong and Acnologia eats magic. Zeref and Hades has black magic, that resentment and guilt has nothing to do with magic she has learned overtime. Hades did not teach tartaros magic, Gray uses black magic via Devil Slayer Magic.

Natsu's magic was on Lucy's body. Natsu's magic did not combine with Lucy's magic. Lucy didn't even have magic at that time.

Darkness isn't exclusive to black magic and curses. It's the source of their power. That's like saying apples is the source of food for human beings, and therefore no other animal can use apples as food. Invel literally said it's a source of power available to any human being. Zeref had darkness, which was his rage and sorrow. Irene had darkness, which is why her dragon seed grew. Same with Acnologia. There was plenty of pain and suffering that they would have felt to cause this. Hades had darkness, believed that darkness was the source of magic, and taught everyone in Grimoire Heart their magics.

 

[WoWfan]

Usually statements have weight to them if they are actually doing it or did it without interruption or actual happening. It actually does, a separation between feats that are actual power than that of hax

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RoT Acno should be continental considering he should be well above Etherion

As cloud thing, moving or clearing thunderstorm clouds is indeed impressive. Natsu clearing the clouds above Iku when he used demo fist should be island lvl

Etherion is well above that, and Base Acnologia is well above the Phoenix which was going to destroy the world

 

[WoWfan]

I did not say combined with Lucy’s magic, just combined with her, difference there. Darkness is exclusive as that is how it makes Black Magic born and powered. Zeref has BM, Irene never utilized black magic, same with Acno, again, did not bring BM to the table, Hades used BM, only one of the kin has black magic which is lost magic too

 

[Axiomus]

You’re not want to talk with your excuses, at least I am not alone in not seeing you images , get off my back, Those clouds are not the same mass as ones Makarov or Jose summoned, they are small. And base Acno has higher AP attacks than EF, which he already scales above world destroying feats

I shouldn't even have to post these images in the first place btw. It should just be obvious to anyone that's read the manga once that eternal flare has better attack power than Makarov and Jose making clouds swirl. Not being able to see my images doesn't make it better dude. Anyways, Arlock's clouds cover a larger area than what Makarov's and Jose's clouds have shown. And more importantly, they also cause lightning and earthquakes. In fact, Makarov and Jose didn't really even cause earthquakes. They just made the water in the lake create some waves. Summoning of Ikusatsunagi actually caused the ground to crack.

You think base Acnologia had higher attack power than Eternal Flare? OK. I'm done.