Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Xzone]

US was from my experience.

Experience without a proof means nothing tbh.

 

[yadayada]

US was from my experience.

Let me check if it was France or some other country that sold that much cause I remember it selling that much just that confused with the country stuff.

I've seen good reviews from Germany never sure if it's not big market or anything

Those numbers come from nowhere. Even if you added the sales it did WORLDWIDE it wouldn't be 70k in 2 days.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Like the Act-age and Chainsawman polls, we can vote

 

[yadayada]

Like the Act-age and Chainsawman polls, we canvote

If smug Anya doesn't win you're all trolling, just saying

 

[Xzone]

Like the Act-age and Chainsawman polls, we canvote

Seeing this, what other jump or jump+ would you like to have to have a poll about certain character's facial Expressions ?
PD:I know Yonagi will be the answer most people will choose.

 

[Koni]

Like the Act-age and Chainsawman polls, we can vote

I've yet to read this manga, but those are some crazy facial expressions coming from her. Not what I would expect, tbh. I like a lot of these, so I dunno what to choose. I can see why this got a popularity poll.

EDIT: Actually nvm, we're all just going to colletively band together as a community and vote for #20.

 

[4Eyes]

Like the Act-age and Chainsawman polls, we canvote

So we can vote too?

 

[James Rye]

Like the Act-age and Chainsawman polls, we can vote

OH SNAP!
This is actually really really hard to chose from! This might be a much harder poll than the AA and CSM poll recently. Like the new chapter came out today and I got instant 3 new Anya expression I wanna put all on Nr.1 spot and then some more. XDDD

I know we are not supposed to talk about SxF here (I think) but I just gotta say this: The name Anya chose for her dog was the best name you could pick for a dog of a spy family and I am ashamed I did not had the idea myself when discussing it with others. <3

 

[Thundercat27]

It's okay to talk about jump+ here, matey.

 

[James Rye]

Spoiler: Long Anya poll - Question about the sentences below each pic

Here is a pic of all the 56 choices and interestingly enough each got their own sentence below and I am curious if anybody here knows enough moon runes to translate those for us. I am not trusting Google translate. If it's not too much work ofc.

Also voted for 20. Gonna vote for other expressions the next days though. <3

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It's okay to talk about jump+ here, matey.

Even the not WSJ stuff?

 

[Halloween]

Even the not WSJ stuff?

I allow discussion of mangaplus/Jump+ because they're essentially the digital platforms for WSJ, with added series.

However, the new topicality rule still applies.

 

[Koni]

Speaking of digital WSJ platforms, new chapters are out on MangaPlus! Things might've been a bit confusing due to Daylight Fucking Savings Time.

We Never Learn: And that's an ending. Not gonna lie, I was a little excited about the prospects of seeing everyone as I was reading this, mainly Fumino and to a lesser extent Sensei. Though, at the same time, it comes at the cost of making this ending feel a bit cheap, not gonna lie.

My Hero Academia: I'm kind of confused about something, but otherwise a solid chapter featuring a character I wasn't expecting to get some spotlight.

 

[OtterBrigade]

saying "it's up to the reader to decide the true ending" makes me think each character will get a volume dedicated to them rather than just a couple chapters each

 

[Koni]

saying "it's up to the reader to decide the true ending" makes me think each character will get a volume dedicated to them rather than just a couple chapters each

This is what I'm thinking. If Tsutsui wants each ending to be convincingly considered as canon, he'll probably have to give the same amount of content that he gave to Uruka here. Since Chapter 150 ends a volume, and this arc has been 9 chapters long, we can reasonably expect that the other four girls' endings will be the same amount of chapters. Perhaps to really hammer it home, the ending volumes could all be the same number, just featuring different girls. Or it could just brand itself as We Never Learn If or something.

Essentially, with this decision, WNL might've bought a ticket to 2021...though, I don't see it going past January. This idea is quite novel, and I'm hoping that the other sides of the story are relatively well executed. There's pros and cons, but I think this is what WNL will be known for at the end of the day. Maybe other stories like this can implement this type of ending for popular characters that were never going to win.

Also apparently the Bokuben sub is praising Tsutsui now for what he's doing and I find that absolutely fucking hilarious. People were really only salty that they didn't get their Sensei end, and I'm seeing people taking the decision as him wanting the Sensei end the most. xD I'll wait for that, since I'm honestly curious about how that'll play out, and also the Fumino end arc as well.

 

[Stivie]

has anyone else seen the reference to bloodborne in yozakura?

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This is what I'm thinking. If Tsutsui wants each ending to be convincingly considered as canon, he'll probably have to give the same amount of content that he gave to Uruka here. Since Chapter 150 ends a volume, and this arc has been 9 chapters long, we can reasonably expect that the other four girls' endings will be the same amount of chapters. Perhaps to really hammer it home, the ending volumes could all be the same number, just featuring different girls. Or it could just brand itself as We Never Learn If or something.

Essentially, with this decision, WNL might've bought a ticket to 2021...though, I don't see it going past January. This idea is quite novel, and I'm hoping that the other sides of the story are relatively well executed. There's pros and cons, but I think this is what WNL will be known for at the end of the day. Maybe other stories like this can implement this type of ending for popular characters that were never going to win.

Also apparently the Bokuben sub is praising Tsutsui now for what he's doing and I find that absolutely fucking hilarious. People were really only salty that they didn't get their Sensei end, and I'm seeing people taking the decision as him wanting the Sensei end the most. xD I'll wait for that, since I'm honestly curious about how that'll play out, and also the Fumino end arc as well.

Nine chapters for each girl are long and dull. two chapters would be better for each one so it covers an entire volume.

 

[Koni]

has anyone else seen the reference to bloodborne in yozakura?

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Nine chapters for each girl are long and dull. two chapters would be better for each one so it covers an entire volume.

That would make more sense, but remember: Tsutsui wants each of these endings to be able to be considered “canon.” If he goes all out on the Uruka ending and then only does two chapters for the other four girls, then readers will still think that Uruka was the canon end and the others are just alternate endings. Which would be terrible because now you have the worst of both worlds: Uruka ending feels cheaper and salty fans aren’t satisfied.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Nine chapters for each girl are long and dull. two chapters would be better for each one so it covers an entire volume.

it depends what he does. Obviously the 9 chapters Uruka had can't just switch her out for the next heroine so they do have to be different. This is probably basically Nisekoi's ending arc everyone was whining about not having except instead of rejecting them one by one he dates them then time reset.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #15 (2020) - VOTING​

Both polls for issue #15 are open for voting, the first poll is HERE and the "Top 3" is HERE

 

[Stivie]

That would make more sense, but remember: Tsutsui wants each of these endings to be able to be considered “canon.” If he goes all out on the Uruka ending and then only does two chapters for the other four girls, then readers will still think that Uruka was the canon end and the others are just alternate endings. Which would be terrible because now you have the worst of both worlds: Uruka ending feels cheaper and salty fans aren’t satisfied.

but giving 9 chapters to each girl is also bad.
first you know what the ending will be, that is to say there is no surprise, because this is the girl's route.
the author of btoom did not spend 300 chapters after he made the good ending to make the bad ending.
you will practically read a story already knowing how to finish. That's call the fan an idiot.

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it depends what he does. Obviously the 9 chapters Uruka had can't just switch her out for the next heroine so they do have to be different. This is probably basically Nisekoi's ending arc everyone was whining about not having except instead of rejecting them one by one he dates them then time reset.

Again, you're practically going to read a story already knowing how to end it. That's call the fan an idiot.

 

[savethecat]

Amazon and twitter isn’t exactly an indicator of how well something is doing. But S8 seems to be doing well based on it being a top sell briefly, and the amount of people I see posting it on twitter.

Obviously a top selling manga in the US isn’t nearly as big as a top selling manga in Japan. But it appears to be doing well for US standards