Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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Well, it's your rights to keep dreaming.
It's a fact.

You don't have an argument btw. Lucy even said that Ignia's flames was the first time she felt scared by Natsu's flames, and guess what? Lucy had a front-row seat when he fought Animus. Mercphobia is simply stronger than Animus. But nice try.
 

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Yeah....Irene used up all of her remaining power to beat Nebal. Definitely suggests she could give a God Dragon a good fight. Try harder.

The flames from one of Ignia's attacks made Natsu stronger than Mercphobia. Ignia's attack > Mercphobia > Irene.
Aldoron's orbs alone solo'd the White Witch. White Witch is on Zeref's level, and stronger than Irene. Aldoron > Zeref > Irene.
Selene could take away the White Witch's power without even being close to her. Again, White Witch is on Zeref's level and stronger than Irene.

Only Dragon God here that doesn't have feats to suggest they would stomp Irene is Mercphobia, and even he has better feats than Irene because he can tank Dragon Slaying Magic far better than Irene can.
 

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Strange line.

I posted real facts from manga. Vice versa you're making line like "pikachu stronger then charizard" because he defeated him like Cana "defeated" Brandish.

Aldoron > Zeref
Keep dreaming (c)

Yeah....Irene used up all of her remaining power to beat Nebal. Definitely suggests she could give a God Dragon a good fight. Try harder.
Dragon eaters stronger then fake!God dragons, no?
 

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That does not put Kain in the same level as Gajeel who struggled against fodder especially when he showed feats stronger than before. There is a difference between a gag joke and an actual attack, which Lucy Fire is the later. Wendy does destroy The structure, the same way as the dragons were. Face is hax and does not do anything to strengthen the structure other than drain the magic around it. Just as long as you admire Dragon Gods are roughly the same level, even then, Irene would put up a challenge for them just like how she managed to challenge base Acno.
 

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That does not put Kain in the same level as Gajeel who struggled against fodder especially when he showed feats stronger than before. There is a difference between a gag joke and an actual attack, which Lucy Fire is the later. Wendy does destroy The structure, the same way as the dragons were. Face is hax and does not do anything to strengthen the structure other than drain the magic around it. Just as long as you admire Dragon Gods are roughly the same level, even then, Irene would put up a challenge for them just like how she managed to challenge base Acno.
Are you saying Kain is stronger than Gajeel lmao?

Lucy Fire is a gag joke.

Wendy only destroyed the structure of face. This did not stop face. It wasn't until Carla caused the magic power to self destruct that face was stopped. The dragons had to actually destroy the magic behind face to put a stop to it, and each face had enough magic power to cause a city-level explosion.

Irene only faced human Acnologia, and he wasn't even serious.
 

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He wasn't serious because when he's serious he goes into his dragon form.
So, he was serious versus Jellal and was not serious versus Irene ?
 

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Strange line.

I posted real facts from manga. Vice versa you're making line like "pikachu stronger then charizard" because he defeated him like Cana "defeated" Brandish.



Keep dreaming (c)



Dragon eaters stronger then fake!God dragons, no?
The fact that you think Natsu defeating Mercphobia is in any way equivalent to Cana defeating Brandish speaks volumes about your lack of objectivity. You have been consistently wrong in just about everything you posted so far, and don't think I haven't noticed that you're making posts to bait me. Unless you post something relevant to the discussion, I'm just going to delete those posts as spam.

Obviously the God Dragons stomp the dragon eaters. That's why your point about Irene beating Nebal is absurd. You posted the passage where Irene used up all of her residual magic power to beat DF Nebal, and then pretended that this proves Irene would give a God Dragon a good fight. It does not. Ignia-powered Natsu would oneshot Nebal.

Aldoron's orbs overloaded the White Witch with so much power, and basically allowed Happy to defeated her. White Witch is on Zeref's level.


So, he was serious versus Jellal and was not serious versus Irene ?
He was stronger against Jellal than he was Irene, merely by the fact he used his dragon form. Whether or not he was serious is up for debate. He only got serious against Igneel, and that was in his dragon form. He can be in his dragon form and not be serious, but if he's in his human form then he's not serious at all. Also, yeah....He was more serious against Jellal than Irene. Because there was a dragon slayer he wanted to kill.
 

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You posted the passage where Irene used up all of her residual magic power to beat DF Nebal, and then pretended that this proves Irene would give a God Dragon a good fight.

Aldoron's orbs overloaded the White Witch with so much power, and basically allowed Happy to defeated her. White Witch is on Zeref's level.

That was sarcasm. Obviously god Dragons stomp the dragon eaters. That's why your point about Irene beating Nebal is absurd.



He was stronger against Jellal than he was Irene, merely by the fact he used his dragon form. Whether or not he was serious is up for debate. He only got serious against Igneel, and that was in his dragon form. He can be in his dragon form and not be serious, but if he's in his human form then he's not serious at all.
You so impressive with my "passage", so comment it for 2nd time?

- Kyria said she can alone defeat someone like Dragon God. Dragonized Nebal > Kyria, why you so disagree ?

- Aldoron orbs do not mean anything, because someone so supreme strong like Mest easily destroyed it. Mest stronger then WW ?!
I don't think so, just WW for some tricky reasons is not able to deal with them herself.

- Ashman turned Merc water attacks into ash.... easily turned it into ash. At same time Natsu after his nerf wasnt able to boil regular water.
I did not see any realistic basis why Dragon Eaters could not defeated Dragon Gods.

- So, on Tenrou island, Acno was serious too, right ?
 

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You so impressive with my "passage", so comment it for 2nd time?

- Kyria said she can alone defeat someone like Dragon God. Dragonized Nebal > Kyria, why you so disagree ?

- Aldoron orbs do not mean anything, because someone so supreme strong like Mest easily destroyed it. Mest stronger then WW ?!
I don't think so, just WW for some tricky reasons is not able to deal with them herself.

- Ashman turned Merc water attacks into ash.... easily turned it into ash. At same time Natsu after his nerf wasnt able to boil regular water.
I did not see any realistic basis why Dragon Eaters could not defeated Dragon Gods.

- So, on Tenrou island, Acno was serious too, right ?
Yeah, I'm honestly blown away at how absurd your logic is. It warranted a second statement.

  • Kyria obviously cannot solo a god dragon. Kyria was overpowered by Erza, and beaten badly by Laxus. She never said she can solo a god dragon either btw.
  • Aldoron's orbs seal his magic power, and when White Witch touched them his power overflowed into her. This took her out for a while. How do you suppose that White Witch is going to white out Aldoron if she can't even handle the orbs? Mest isn't stronger than the White Witch, but White Witch is much weaker than Aldoron. Even if you ignore the orbs, there's the obvious portrayal of the God Dragons being on Acnologia level, and White Witch being on Zeref level. There's the obvious fact that White Witch needs to weaken Aldoron in order to white him out too.
  • By the way, since you take issue with Aldoron > Zeref. Please explain to me Zeref can match or beat an Acnologia-level dragon carrying 5 cities on it's back when he can barely even dominate a fight against base Natsu.
  • Mercphobia was nerfed when Skullion fought him. Skullion even sensed that Mercphobia didn't have his power anymore. Also, Mercphobia was in his dragon form. This is obviously different from when White Witch returned Mercphobia's power to him, and he turned back into a dragon.
  • No Acnologia wasn't serious on Tenrou Island, because Gildarts said that he wasn't as serious as when he fought him before. Acnologia tried even less against Irene.
 
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Well since Gajeel struggles and was out against fodder, and fodder stated Kain is stronger, that is a fact that Kain is stronger, Lucy Fire is an attack, just like how the gag joke of Natsu's junk did not defeat Jacob. Does not matter, Wendy destroyed a fact regardless of outcome, yet the magic did not self destruct so it does not matter still. Acno does not take opponents seriousl’y by not talking to them, since talked to her, he was somewhat serious. Even acknowledge her magic is impressive
 

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We already have marked our positions, so if you're not against, i will comment only your 3rd and 4th statements.

- As canon said + suggested Acnologia stronger then Zeref, but Zeref with FH can deal with Acnologia.
Acnologia is Arcane dragon so he is able to consume every type of magic.
Fairy Heart is endless essence of magic,
Acnologia after consuming another huge source of magic (RoT) was divided to 2 entities (his soul and his body). It was because he was not able to consume so much magic at same time.

If sum all of it, FH Zeref should defeat Acnologia because he will produce more magic per 1 sec then Acno could safely consume.

Dragon Gods was just losers who run with fear from their home (their nightmare was Acno, if someone forget).
Why you think these Dragon Gods in similar time span got stronger then Acno ? (in raw magic force).
Why you suggest their magic will be enough to be at same level with Acno ?
Someone said?! Well, Kyria said she can cun everything (!), and ?

On other hand Zeref (even w.o. FH) has huge magic power - he simply tanked Natsu attacks with dead Igneel magic (even notice that kind of magic was super effective against him like dragon slayers magic against dragons).
With high magic power and durability Zeref also has strong and "pain in ass" own magic and curses.
I hardly believe these DG will be able to survive real power Death waves. Mere shadow of them destroyed Ultear orb of Time.

- Hm, but did you say before Acno serious when he is his dragon form ? Or you determine so incorrect ? (well, it's your headcanon about serious or not, after all).
 

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At least this thread reached 600 pages with all this back and forth arguments
 

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Irene would get stomped by the DGS why is this being debated?
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Any DGS would stomp Irene and FH Zeref cannot beat Acnologia, that is a fact.
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real power Death waves.
Literally Elfman and Evergreen outran his Death waves, the DGS can too lol
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Zeref with FH can deal with Acnologia.
No he can't. Zeref said he would use FH to go back in time and stop Acnologia from existing by killing him before he became a monster. Not that he would fight him with it. Zeref with FH lost to Natsu no way he can deal with Acno
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@Axiomus They're trolling right?
 

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Well since Gajeel struggles and was out against fodder, and fodder stated Kain is stronger, that is a fact that Kain is stronger, Lucy Fire is an attack, just like how the gag joke of Natsu's junk did not defeat Jacob. Does not matter, Wendy destroyed a fact regardless of outcome, yet the magic did not self destruct so it does not matter still. Acno does not take opponents seriousl’y by not talking to them, since talked to her, he was somewhat serious.
Do you think Lucy fire can take out Gajeel? Natsu calling Lucy fire an "ultimate attack" means nothing. Lucy fire is no different than if Happy grabbed Natsu by his back and flew him in for a kick.

Destroying the physical structure of face means nothing. You have to destroy the magic itself to stop face. Wendy cannot do this. Grandeeney can.

Nowhere is it stated that Acnologia takes his opponents serious by talking to them. He talked to all of the Dragon Slayers, and made it explicitly clear that he wasn't taking them seriously. If Acnologia isn't in his dragon form and using his best attacks, then he's not serious. He's only ever gotten serious against Igneel.

We already have marked our positions, so if you're not against, i will comment only your 3rd and 4th statements.

- As canon said + suggested Acnologia stronger then Zeref, but Zeref with FH can deal with Acnologia.
Acnologia is Arcane dragon so he is able to consume every type of magic.
Fairy Heart is endless essence of magic,
Acnologia after consuming another huge source of magic (RoT) was divided to 2 entities (his soul and his body). It was because he was not able to consume so much magic at same time.

If sum all of it, FH Zeref should defeat Acnologia because he will produce more magic per 1 sec then Acno could safely consume.

Dragon Gods was just losers who run with fear from their home (their nightmare was Acno, if someone forget).
Why you think these Dragon Gods in similar time span got stronger then Acno ? (in raw magic force).
Why you suggest their magic will be enough to be at same level with Acno ?
Someone said?! Well, Kyria said she can cun everything (!), and ?

On other hand Zeref (even w.o. FH) has huge magic power - he simply tanked Natsu attacks with dead Igneel magic (even notice that kind of magic was super effective against him like dragon slayers magic against dragons).
With high magic power and durability Zeref also has strong and "pain in ass" own magic and curses.
I hardly believe these DG will be able to survive real power Death waves. Mere shadow of them destroyed Ultear orb of Time.

- Hm, but did you say before Acno serious when he is his dragon form ? Or you determine so incorrect ? (well, it's your headcanon about serious or not, after all).
Yeah, no. I'm not giving you an inch here. Your argument is predicated on the nonsense that the Dragon Eaters can take down the God Dragons. Kyria cannot take down a god dragon by herself. Kyria cannot even take down Laxus, whom she obviously cannot cut.

Aldoron is stronger than Zeref. There are plenty of reasons for this. The most obvious reason being Aldoron has the reputation of an Acnologia level dragon, and he has literal cities on his back. Aldoron has technically tanked every single attack that hit the ground this arc. This includes stuff like Irene's attack btw. Think of the cities on Aldoron's hands like armoured gauntlets. Irene's attack couldn't even penetrate deep enough into the pavement to touch Aldoron's skin. How does Zeref even hurt Aldoron if he raises a hand to block with a literal city as a shield? Zeref's black magic was being burned by Igneel's power. Ignia's flames are hotter. He's not killing anybody with his death waves, which don't even happen if he doesn't value life.

I wasn't even talking about Fairy Heart btw. I was just talking about base Zeref. However, since you mentioned it....Fairy Heart Zeref couldn't even beat Natsu. Acnologia eats him whole for a power-up, and even if he splits up that still counts as a victory. Zeref might not die, but Acnologia just passes him through his digestive track until the end of time.

God Dragons are around Acnologia's level, not stronger. Being around Acnologia's level already puts you league above Zeref.

@Axiomus They're trolling right?
I suspect Verter is. WoWfan is probably serious.
 
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It is Natsu’s power combined with Lucy and with Happy’s speed, Gajeel struggled against fodder so yes it can. Destroying face means everything because Hax is hax and nothing else, there is nothing special about it beside’s it’s draining of magic. Yes it did, it was made a comparison to how not talking to them and not using all your power is the same as humans not payin attentions to bugs, he stated Irene’s magic is impressive, stated and a fact.
 

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Irene would get stomped by the DGS why is this being debated?

Any DGS would stomp Irene and FH Zeref cannot beat Acnologia, that is a fact.

Literally Elfman and Evergreen outran his Death waves, the DGS can too lol
- Really ? xD One who can cast world-class magic would get stomped by the DGS ?

- Really ? xD (x2) Who said FH Zeref can not beat Acno, manga clearly stated he could. FH Zeref should reset entire universe. About which fact you're daydreaming. Show prove on manga or stop troll so bad.

- Ho? Actually it accidentally killed Igneel scales

That's why they survived (scales on scarf took all damage on itself (like Laxus absorb all particles with his lungs during Tartatus arc)
 
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