Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ramen]

How? That attack overpowered Mercphobia's serious roar and then proceeded to knock him down.

He had Ignia's power up though. Ignia's power up changes things, a regular brilliant flames isn't ko'ing Irene

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Ya'll don't understand the power of PoF Erza

 

[Demon Hunter]

Acno respected Irene's power so she is strong, though on Base Acno/5DG level? no, though she would put up a fight

yeah, because he thought she learned from Fodder Zeref who is the only wizard Acno ever talked to.

@Jean Grey yeah, her sword stores all her magic power into attack power

oh that, sure.

 

[WoWfan]

yeah, because he thought she learned from Fodder Zeref who is the only wizard Acno ever talked to.



oh that, sure.

That did not stop him from talking to her, who he still acknowledged her magic power

 

[Aurelius]

Ya'll don't understand the power of PoF Erza

Have to agree. Then on top of that the things only she can do because she is Erza.

 

[Demon Hunter]

That did not stop him from talking to her, who he still acknowledged her magic power

pretty sure he acknowledged her type of magic rather than her MP.

 

[Verter]

1. August >>> human Eileen, August ~ Dragon Eileen

2. Nebal is fodder.

3. Merc no sold all Dragon Slayer attacks, in spite of slayer advantage, while not even being at half power. Ignia flames Natsu was needed to take him down

Ho?
(I'm serious, just to mention)
1. Where you got this? Same "technical" information as about DG says they're equal.
Irene in human form knocked ppl (like Mira) just my her magical pressure, while August in wargod form wasn't able even to kill Lucy and Happy.
But I didn't say Irene >>> August.
Dragon Queen form is another story. It's not actually right to compare with non-slayer type of mage.
2. That fodder defeated Wendy, and that fodder stronger then DE trio, who defeated team of Natsu. no?
3, So, insufficient part of Ignia flames was enough to deal with Merc ? (insufficient - because I didn't remember Ignia fall out of magic).

 

[Axiomus]

Also Irene can't possibly scale to half of Acno, because Acno is above the entire Alvarez Empire. He's above Zeref, August, Irene, plus the rest of the Spriggans. Even if Irene and August was equally as strong as Zeref and the rest of the Spriggans are worth virtually zero, the math would still add up to Irene being less than 1/3rd the level of Acno.

He had Ignia's power up though. Ignia's power up changes things, a regular brilliant flames isn't ko'ing Irene

Yes. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying if Ignia fed Natsu his flames, then Natsu could probably end the fight with Irene with FDK Brilliant Flames. The FDK demolition fist that he later went on to use wiped out all of Mercphobia's magic power for the rest of his life. That's overkill.

 

[Xzilerate]

She was against PoF Erza and Deus Ex Machina Wendy........

Merc is not Acnologia Tier. What we saw would get stomped by Acno

Which can't be remotely measured. Feats can and Irene falls behind in that regard and significantly so at that. What feats does she have that compares to Merc stomping Natsu, Erza, Wendy, Lucy, and Gray even when they're enchanted with DS magic? Her only fight was her losing to both Wendy and Erza and knocking human Acnologia back that resulted in no damage whatsoever, which even freaking Jellal did. Is Jellal now comparable to 50% Merc?

 

[Demon Hunter]

btw, @August_Lightning hate for Gray is something else

 

[Ramen]

Just to put this out there, the Mercuphobia that we saw was no where near Acnologia tier

 

[grey matter]

No, he didn't. He stated she was still a Dragon.

Dragon Irene got hit by a PoF empowered Erza that was getting buffed by PoF Wendy and she stood there and took the attack. This the same Erza while not buffed by Wendy that could smack RoT Acno out of the sky with Blumenblatt....

POF Erza is still Erza. And she had broken bones, so not even peak POF

Pushing Acno isn't something to be hyped for. Makarov, Jellal (who you think is Romeo level) and BP ship did it to conscious Acnologia

Also she was never "oneshotted" as she clearly had to "kill" herself in order to be stopped.

She was one shotted out of her DRAGON FORM.
How is it hard to understand? wtf

 

[Ramen]

Which can't be remotely measured. Feats can and Irene falls behind in that regard and significantly so at that. What feats does she have that compares to Merc stomping Natsu, Erza, Wendy, Lucy, and Gray even when they're enchanted with DS magic? Her only fight was her losing to both Wendy and Erza and knocking human Acnologia back that resulted in no damage whatsoever, which even freaking Jellal did. Is Jellal now comparable to 50% Merc?

Like I said before, ya'll underestimating PoF Erza

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btw, @August_Lightning hate for Gray is something else

Wym? Clearly he's my favourite character

 

[Xzilerate]

Like I said before, ya'll underestimating PoF Erza

That's not an argument.

 

[Ramen]

That's not an argument.

Cause I'm not arguing. I'm saying my thoughts and don't really care if ya'll agree

 

[Jko]

I honestly don't see this any different than a Super Saiyan transformation.

you can beat the living snots out of Goku and he will revert back to his base form.

it's no different here IMO.

we know that a small boost can give you a huge power (Atlas Flame couldn't down Motherglare but when he gave his flame to Natsu he knocked out both Future Rogue and Motherglare iirc).


wut

How? We had whole subplot with Irene on why the human transformation is just a transformation and that she was still a Dragon lol.

Atlas was the strongest Dragon there and Natsu ate a lot of his flames from his body. Plus Natsu between them with a combo attack from Atlas.

Spoiler

Even then it was nowhere near the stomp Natsu did on Merc lol. Also MG did like no damage to Atlas either and Atlas didn't even try to use magic until the combo with Natsu.

 

[grey matter]

You don't have to downplay Irene to say some of the God Dragons oneshots her. Ignia's one attack gave Natsu the power to beat Mercphobia. Even if you say Irene was comparable to Mercphobia at half power (a whole debate can be had over this, but I digress), Ignia still oneshots. Natsu with Ignia's flames burned away Mercphobia's power for the rest of his life. The only way Ignia doesn't oneshot here is if Natsu with his flames couldn't beat Irene. Honestly, I don't think it would take Natsu as much effort to beat Irene as it did Mercphobia. I don't see Irene getting back up after the FDK Brilliant Flame.

Is there an argument for why Natsu WITHOUT any buffs couldn't one shot dragon Eileen, when Erza with broken bones could do it once she got DS magic?

 

[Xzilerate]

Cause I'm not arguing. I'm saying my thoughts and don't really care if ya'll agree

Throwing out a statement with no facts to back it up essentially makes that statement useless. Feel free to say what you want, but you're on an discussion forum so people are going to critique what you say.

 

[Ramen]

Throwing out a statement with no facts to back it up essentially makes that statement useless. Feel free to say what you want, but you're on an discussion forum so people are going to critique what you say.

It ain't useless if you replied to it lmao. Did I say my opinion was objective?

Critique my statements.........idrc

 

[Demon Hunter]

How? We had whole subplot with Irene on why the human transformation is just a transformation and that she was still a Dragon lol.

yeah, but she doesn't have a power of the dragon in her human form, you know, things like strength, durability etc.

Atlas was the strongest Dragon there and Natsu ate a lot of his flames from his body. Plus Natsu between them with a combo attack from Atlas.

Spoiler

Natsu did MAJORITY of the damage.

regardless, people underrate how much power can a human DS get from eating a special flame.

it can boost you to high heavens.

Even then it was nowhere near the stomp Natsu did on Merc lol. Also MG did like no damage to Atlas either and Atlas didn't even try to use magic until the combo with Natsu.

AF is almost immune to magic so it was a physical fight more or less.

they were basically equal until AF gave Natsu a boost.

 

[Axiomus]

Is there an argument for why Natsu WITHOUT any buffs couldn't one shot dragon Eileen, when Erza with broken bones could do it once she got DS magic?

I mean I do think Erza is stronger than Natsu without Dragon Force, but I also think that DF Natsu probably would have blasted a hole in Irene.