Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

If Irene is indeed purposely transforming back into her human form, then it's most likely because she has a massive cut on her neck and doesn't want to bleed out. Not because she thought Erza was done and was taking her lightly.

Dragon Irene would break even df natsu

I still have hard time swallowing how df can be stronger than an actual dragon
Shouldn't it be
Base dragon Slayer << dragon force dragon Slayer << dragon of that dragon slayer

You mean break his bones? Maybe. Irene can maybe break all of Natsu's bones like she did to Erza. But Natsu would be able to blast a hole in Irene the same way he vaporized Zeref's body. It would still be a better trade for Natsu.

Not all dragons are equal. When Natsu uses dragon force, he takes on some of the physical attributes of Igneel. At a certain percentage of Igneel's strength, you start becoming stronger than dragons weaker than Igneel.

 

[Jko]

You mean break his bones? Maybe. Irene can maybe break all of Natsu's bones like she did to Erza. But Natsu would be able to blast a hole in Irene the same way he vaporized Zeref's body. It would still be a better trade for Natsu.

Not all dragon force is equal because not all dragons are equal. When Natsu uses dragon force, he takes on some of the attributes of Igneel. At a certain percentage of Igneel's strength, you start becoming stronger than dragons far weaker than Igneel.

Natsu only vaporized Zeref bcs Zeref allowed him too. We have seen Zeref tank two attacks far greater than DF Natsu in power. Also Natsu's attack in DF is easily avoidable.

DF Natsu should be coming in the next couple or so chapters so we can see how effective is against a God tier. I'm not seeing Natsu vaporizing FH Zeref as a God tier level feat tho since we have seen Natsu use far stronger attacks that Zeref tanked or wasn't vaporized by.

 

[Axiomus]

Natsu only vaporized Zeref bcs Zeref allowed him too. We have seen Zeref tank two attacks far greater than DF Natsu in power. Also Natsu's attack in DF is easily avoidable.

DF Natsu should be coming in the next couple or so chapters so we can see how effective is against a God tier. I'm not seeing Natsu vaporizing FH Zeref as a God tier level feat tho since we have seen Natsu use far stronger attacks that Zeref tanked or wasn't vaporized by.

I agree that vaporizing FH Zeref isn't a god tier feat, but Irene isn't FH Zeref. She's more vulnerable to dragon slaying magic than he is, and she can't simply rewind time to undo the damage. As for Zeref allowing DF Natsu to vaporize him? Sure. It doesn't change the physical durability of his body. Tbh I'm not even too interested in how DF Natsu stacks up against Irene. My original point was that Natsu with Ignia's flames would beat Irene, and this scales to just one of Ignia's attacks.

 

[Ramen]

At most, DF and FDK should put a small dent in Aldoron. Dudes a physical monster. Might be above Acno in that category.

Just because he did it to Zeref doesn't mean anyhting. Aldoron>>Zeref.

He's gonna need some next level shit to hurt Aldo

 

[aymen24]

It is clear that Aldron is physically above all the dragons
he needs a dragon of his level or above to influence him

 

[Demon Hunter]

DF Natsu >>>> IgNatsu


IgNatsu is overwanked.

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Nah. Dragon Eileen was knocked out of dragon form by a single attack from broken bones Erza.

Maybe it's because slayer magic gives a boost to damage output?
In pure power, I agree.

nah, she purposely transformed back to her human form for some reason

either she is dumb asf or she was knocked out.

obviously it's the latter.

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Dragon Irene would break even df natsu

I still have hard time swallowing how df can be stronger than an actual dragon
Shouldn't it be
Base dragon Slayer << dragon force dragon Slayer << dragon of that dragon slayer

well Acno was killing them without going DF and Dragon form.

 

[Zelefomavis]

DF Natsu >>>> IgNatsu


IgNatsu is overwanked.

Obviously!! I mean DF Natsu vaporised Zeref. The Zeref !!


IgNatsu got nothing on him, he can't even hope to compare

 

[Demon Hunter]

Obviously!! I mean DF Natsu vaporised Zeref. The Zeref !!


IgNatsu got nothing on him, he can't even hope to compare

yeah, LoL.

sorry about your boy though.

he got trashed by Hiro hard.

 

[Verter]

Acnologia said that Irene's magic power was impressive for someone taught by Zeref. She's still nowhere near his level and would get oneshotted by any of the God Dragons, or Acnologia himself if he was in his dragon form.

You may talk it endlessly, but facts are facts.
Until Irene face DG.. who knows result.

Some ppl stupidly show their hate. butthurt or something near it with Ireve vs Erza+Wendy.
That fight was rare BS with "hidden" parental feelings and apex of "she is Erza".Easy example - check Erza with one "working" bone and Mira after Heine & Juliette. Mira and Erza should be ~ at par (even with Erza stronger). but...
But yeah, fact is fact - Irene lost.

Irene vs Acnologia. Fact is fact also. Acno lost, It's reality. About which oneshotts you're dreaming ?!
You may endlessly say about "Acno was not serious", someone may endlessly say - "Irene was not serious versus Erza".
It's broken way.

By the way - Acno did not oneshotted Jellal as well. It's fact also.

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About DG - we saw full fight with just one - that Merc did not oneshot anyone in team of Natsu.
Nebal defeated Wendy.
Residual power of Irene actually defeated with one spell dragonized!Nebal.

Feel logic? So stop make pornography dreams with DG (at least with Merc). If he failed to oneshot at least any one from team Natsu. how he will oneshot someone who stronger ?!

 

[Ramen]

rene vs Acnologia. Fact is fact also. Acno lost

Acno lost against Irene? LOOOOL, she had to re arrange the landscape because of how much of a threat he is.

About DG - we saw full fight with just one - that Merc did not oneshot anyone in team of Natsu.
Nebal defeated Wendy.
Residual power of Irene actually defeated with one spell dragonized!Nebal.

Are you still on about this? @Axiomus already proved you wrong. Merc is far above anyone in the main series aside from Acno himself

 

[grey matter]

Acno lost against Irene? LOOOOL, she had to re arrange the landscape because of how much of a threat he is.



Are you still on about this? @Axiomus already proved you wrong. Merc is far above anyone in the main series aside from Acno himself

I was gonna respond, but that entire post was aids lmao. I've given up

 

[Ramen]

I was gonna respond, but that entire post was aids lmao. I've given up

There always has to be that one guy eh?........lol

 

[Verter]

Acno lost against Irene? LOOOOL, she had to re arrange the landscape because of how much of a threat he is.

Technically, yes. He lost.
I can make reverse absurd - Irene won against Erza + Wendy. But instead finishing them, commit suicide.

Are you still on about this? @Axiomus already proved you wrong. Merc is far above anyone in the main series aside from Acno himself

ho? Are you, or maybe someone will say about "almighty" Wraith as well?

Merc did not defeated ANYONE, on which basis you gave him such credits ?

 

[Axiomus]

You may talk it endlessly, but facts are facts.
Until Irene face DG.. who knows result.

Some ppl stupidly show their hate. butthurt or something near it with Ireve vs Erza+Wendy.
That fight was rare BS with "hidden" parental feelings and apex of "she is Erza".Easy example - check Erza with one "working" bone and Mira after Heine & Juliette. Mira and Erza should be ~ at par (even with Erza stronger). but...
But yeah, fact is fact - Irene lost.

Irene vs Acnologia. Fact is fact also. Acno lost, It's reality. About which oneshotts you're dreaming ?!
You may endlessly say about "Acno was not serious", someone may endlessly say - "Irene was not serious versus Erza".
It's broken way.

By the way - Acno did not oneshotted Jellal as well. It's fact also.

***

About DG - we saw full fight with just one - that Merc did not oneshot anyone in team of Natsu.
Nebal defeated Wendy.
Residual power of Irene actually defeated with one spell dragonized!Nebal.

Feel logic? So stop make pornography dreams with DG (at least with Merc). If he failed to oneshot at least any one from team Natsu. how he will oneshot someone who stronger ?!

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here.

But Irene didn't beat Acnologia. At best, she came up with a very elaborate way to avoid having to really fight him, one that takes prep work to begin with. Everyone and their moms have admitted that they are no match for Acnologia in an actual fight. August, Zeref, and Irene herself all agree that the entire Empire cannot take Acnologia without first obtaining Fairy Heart.

This is going right beside "Dragon Eaters can beat God Dragons" on the list of claims that have hurt my soul.

 

[grey matter]

I can make reverse absurd - Irene won against Erza + Wendy. But instead finishing them, commit suicide.

That's absurd? That's the only sensible sentence in your last two posts lmao. Eileen most likely (more than 90% chance) would've won there if she didn't commit suicide.

I think we have very different definitions of win and loss

 

[Verter]

This is going right beside "Dragon Eaters can beat God Dragons" on the list of claims that have hurt my soul.

Did not Master of DE guild sent them to bring him meat of DG ?

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I think we have very different definitions of win and loss

Win or lose are final results

Like example from soccer - R.Madrid may play vs 5th grade team from England village, but that team 1 time for entire time cross their half of field, one time hit ball and win 1-0.

It will be "won". But anyone in clear mind say that team stronger then R.Madrid.

 

[Axiomus]

Also, Mercphobia was about to kill Natsu if not for Ignia. This is leagues upon leagues better than beating up Wendy. Ignia also stated that Mercphobia would kill the rest of team Natsu if Natsu didn't hurry up and eat his flames, which is why Natsu ate his flames.

Did not Master of DE guild sent them to bring him meat of DG ?

Yes, and? They weren't successful.

 

[Verter]

Yes, and? They weren't successful.

They still don't abandon their task and still have chances, so?

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Also, Mercphobia was about to kill Natsu if not for Ignia. This is leagues upon leagues better than beating up Wendy. Ignia also stated that Mercphobia would kill the rest of team Natsu if Natsu didn't hurry up and eat his flames, which is why Natsu ate his flames.

I did not see any proves it could kill Natsu. Actually.

But i see result - anyone form team Natsu (who were tired after DE) received serious damage. GG Merc, really "o-lo-lo great power" = paper dragon,

 

[Ramen]

ho? Are you, or maybe someone will say about "almighty" Wraith as well?

This makes literally no sense. Gramatically too.

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Lol I guess Wendy Belserion >>>>Mercuphobia lol

 

[Verter]

This makes literally no sense. Gramatically too.

For 2nd part, I still have time to catch up xD

It has sense, but need not put rose-colored glasses.. firstly.
Feats should be shown. Words are not feats. As well - "oooh cool ability!!! if I had it... I could...".
Manga has a lot of characters with more hax abilities, but all of them already have lost.
Nor Merc nor Wraith did not prove their hype.