Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[perroloco]

@Mankichi Togawa:
Sure, the decision is up to you. You can remove Lost Canvas OR add Soten no Ken to keep the list consistent, but keep in mind Soten No Ken isn't the only anime that's a spin off of a series that used to run in WSJ.. Out of the top of my head I imagine Mazinger has had lots of crazy spin offs too haha.

Also, have you considered including live action/ real movie adaptations? If you do I could help you with the list It could even be a list of its own.

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

That Yuuna thing made realize.., when is the next Jump Giga issue coming out?

 

[Tamil]

Resurrecting and updating this:

-1969: Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho
-1972: Dokonjo Gaeru
-1973: Mazinger Z, Kouya no Shonen Isamu, Samurai Giants
-1981: Dr.Slump, Shin Dokonjo Gaeru
-1982: Cobra
-1983: Captain (Play Ball ''spinoff''), Kinnikuman, Stop! Hibari-kun, Cat's Eye, Captain Tsubasa, Hadashi no Gen (movie)
-1984: Wingman, Yoroshiku Mechadoc, Hokuto no Ken
-1985: High School Kimengumi
-1986: Dragon Ball, Ginga Nagareboshi Gin, Saint Seiya
-1987: Kimagure Orange Road, City Hunter, Tsuide ni Tonchinkan
-1988: Sakigake!! Otokojoku, Moeru! Oni-san
-1989: Dragon Ball Z, Fuuma no Kojirou (OVA), Baoh Raihousha (OVA)
-1990: Magical Taruruto-kun, Circuit no Ookami (OVA)
-1991: Dragon Quest: Dai no Daiboken
-1992: Video Girl Ai, Bastard!, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rokudenashi Blues (movie)
-1993: Jungle no Oja Tar-chan!, Slam Dunk, JoJo (OVA)
-1994: Tottemo! Luckyman, DNA2, Captain Tsubasa J
-1995: Ninku
-1996: Ruroni Kenshin, Dragon Ball GT, Midori no Makibao, Jigoku Sensei Nube, Kochikame, Harenchi Gakuen (OVA)
-1997: Hareluya II BOY
-1998: Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoiyo!! Masaru-san, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Hanasaka Tenshi TenTen-kun, Seikimatsu Leader-den Takeshi! (OVA)
-1999: Hoshin Engi, Karakurizoshi Ayatsuri Sakon, One Piece, HunterxHunter
-2000: Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters
-2001: Shaman King, Hikaru no Go, Captain Tsubasa Road to 2002, Prince of Tennis
-2002: Kinnikuman II Sei, Whistle!, Naruto
-2003: I''s, BoBoBo
-2004: Bleach, Ring ni Kakero
-2005: Ichigo 100%, Eyeshield 21, Play Ball, Black Cat
-2006: Gintama, Busou Renkin, Death Note, D.Gray-man, Katekyo Hitman Reborn!
-2007: Naruto Shippuden, Majin Tantei Nogami Neuro, Pyuu to Fuku! Jaguar (short videos)
-2008: To Love-Ru!
-2009: Dragon Ball Kai, Hatsukoi Limited, Chinyuki (OVA)
-2010: Nurarihyon no Mago, Bakuman
-2011: Level E, Beelzebub, Sket Dance, Toriko, HunterxHunter 2011, One Piece New World
-2012: Medaka Box, Kuroko no Basket, JoJo
-2013: Saint Seiya Omega, Hana no Keiji
-2014: Nisekoi, Haikyuu, World Trigger
-2015: Assasination Classroom, Shokugeki no Soma, Dragon Ball Super
-2016: Boku no Hero Academia, Saiki Kusuo no Psi-nan
-2017: Boruto, Black Clover
-2018: Hakyuu Hoshin Engi, Captain Tsubasa 2018, Muhyo to Rouji, Yuragi-so no Yuuna-san, Hinomaru Zumo
-2019: The Promised Neverland, Kimetsu no Yaiba, We Never Learn, Dr.Stone
-2020: Dragon Quest Dai no Daiboken 2020
-No date: Jujutsu Kaisen

Youre missing Toriko's OVA...dont blame you cuz a lot of people forget it when they bring up Kimetsu as being Ufo's first WSJ adaptation.

Edit: You missed out OP/HxH/BC OVA's so Im guessing you're not including OVA's for series that eventually got an anime?

 

[yadayada]

Youre missing Toriko's OVA...dont blame you cuz a lot of people forget it when they bring up Kimetsu as being Ufo's first WSJ adaptation.

Edit: You missed out OP/HxH/BC OVA's so Im guessing you're not including OVA's for series that eventually got an anime?

The jojo ovas are on the list though

 

[lazybones1717]

The jojo ovas are on the list though

Maybe because they adapted a "sizable" amount of the story (as opposed to just one/part of a chapter)?

 

[Tamil]

Maybe because they adapted a "sizable" amount of the story (as opposed to just one/part of a chapter)?

The Takeshi OVA adapted some of the first chapter so I don't think so but generally there's so many OVA's to keep track of.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Shiibashi moving to Jump Plus is too predictable, sad, another talent lost by WSJ...

Damn, that one image looks more interesting that literally all of Yui Kamio.

Why? it's a military blond bishounen guy looking like it came out of a yaoi magazine, despite this is just a image kkkkk

 

[Rain Spectre]

Shiibashi moving to Jump Plus is too predictable, sad, another talent lost by WSJ...

How? Yui bombed badly, it's only reasonable he'd be thrown to the side.

 

[lazybones1717]

Shiibashi moving to Jump Plus is too predictable, sad, another talent lost by WSJ...

Why? Jump+ isn't some sort of dead end for authors, it's a great environment for them to foster more unique personal works that might not find success in print magazines otherwise.

Many authors that struggled in more mainstream magazines like WSJ and SQ have ended up successful on the platform. Just look at Tatsuya Endo, Yuuji Kaku, and KAITO, and those are the obvious examples.

Moving to Jump+ might be the best thing to happen to Shiibashi. Even if he creates another flop, he'll still have much more room to experiment with it than he could in WSJ. Even underperforming series on Jump+ are given ample to time wrap up and explore the themes they set up, Curtain's up, I'm off is a good example of this.

(Also, he's hardly a "talent lost by WSJ", both publications work in the same space, and even have an overlap in editors.)

 

[Bodoro]

Agravity is almost at 2k followers on twitter, that's pretty fast. Do Mitama and Yozakura have a twitter pages, and if they do how many followers do they have?

 

[lazybones1717]

Agravity is almost at 2k followers on twitter, that's pretty fast. Do Mitama and Yozakura have a twitter pages, and if they do how many followers do they have?

Neither of them have one, unfortunately . UNDEAD UNLUCK has about 3,600 though (over a slightly longer timeframe).

 

[Bodoro]

Neither of them have one, unfortunately . UNDEAD UNLUCK has about 3,600 though (over a slightly longer timeframe).

Yeah, Undead Unluck got that twitter page pretty fast. Do you think Jump is taking the JPN impression poll into consideration, because Undead and Agravity are pretty high on there, and maybe trying to promote them further because of that?

 

[Thehoennhippo]

Yeah, Undead Unluck got that twitter page pretty fast. Do you think Jump is taking the JPN impression poll into consideration, because Undead and Agravity are pretty high on there, and maybe trying to promote them further because of that?

Probably less that they're taking that specific poll into account and more that the poll (or at least Undead and Agravity's positions on it) are indicitive of general response Jump has been seeing in Japan. They must have a variety of reasons to assume promoting these titles at this point will be worthwhile.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Yeah, Undead Unluck got that twitter page pretty fast. Do you think Jump is taking the JPN impression poll into consideration, because Undead and Agravity are pretty high on there, and maybe trying to promote them further because of that?

It's possible, but unless someone can break into Nakano's house and steal his search history, no one will ever know.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

How? Yui bombed badly, it's only reasonable he'd be thrown to the side.

It didn't "bombed badly" if it was the case wouldn't have survived for 36 chapters, the rankings weren't even terrible too, it was just a flop (And don't bring the "its a famous author", Shiibashi isn't really a big name)

Why? Jump+ isn't some sort of dead end for authors, it's a great environment for them to foster more unique personal works that might not find success in print magazines otherwise.

I'm not saying Jump Plus is a dead end but that WSJ is losing another talent for the platform because their more than flawed system when it comes to veterans, but this is too much of a complex topic for the moment.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I'm not saying Jump Plus is a dead end but that WSJ is losing another talent for the platform because their more than flawed system when it comes to veterans, but this is too much of a complex topic for the moment.

How does Jump have a "flawed system" for treating veterans? Or are you arguing they mistreated Samurai 8?

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

How does Jump have a "flawed system" for treating veterans? Or are you arguing they mistreated Samurai 8?

Are you seriously asking me how Shonen Jump has a flawed system for veterans? kkkkk

 

[Rain Spectre]

Are you seriously asking me how Shonen Jump has a flawed system for veterans? kkkkk

That's not an answer.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

That's not an answer.

You really need a answer for this? kkkkk

 

[Rain Spectre]

You really need a answer for this? kkkkk

Yes? Because I literally have no idea what you're complaining about. Shiibashi and Kishimoto launched new series, those series were not well received, those series died. I fail to see where the fault is.