Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Samael Morningstar]

Sure, post your AP chart. Where do you get the chart from? An who is the one who figure out the math for it? I did offer to look at it from a lowball standpoint so please, go right ahead.

Then do the math for Large Country & one for Continental while you’re at it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIBxAD&usg=AOvVaw2AImrbTu4-uiP8Bua8mzqT

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Here's the chart

 

[WoWfan]

His attacks do not even remotely resemble that of the FDK techniques, besides those are just the flames of a fire dragon especially like how he uses iron fist attack the same as Natsu, since you are Fan of using anime he does name is attacks, and he just names them regular Fire Dragon spells, nothing more to it. It is not at technique, it is just remaining magic power, which he released and had it sealed, he still Stated to use it before thus contradicting his later comments since they are the same thing. Again, immortal beings like Zeref are powered by gods, which is what is used against, so it does work like that. And you images are broken still. No, it was just more powerful than a god’s power, not a Spriggan’s power are not objectively gods, she even said only END could do that, so that means no one else is capable of moving in Stopped time. No, both gods were beaten by hax that does negate god powers, three when you count Anksarem, and God Slayer Magic was involved.

 

[Ramen]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIBxAD&usg=AOvVaw2AImrbTu4-uiP8Bua8mzqT

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Here's the chart

That link isn't working man.

 

[Axiomus]

Well since you are Fan of using anime he does name is attacks, and he just names them regular Fire Dragon spells, nothing more to it. It is not at technique, it is just remaining magic power, which he released and had it sealed, he still Stated to use it before thus contradicting his later comments since they are the same thing. Again, immortal beings like Zeref are powered by gods, which is what is used against, so it does work like that. And you images are broken still. No, it was just more powerful than a god’s power, not a Spriggan’s power are not objectively gods, she even said only END could do that, so that means no one else is capable of moving in Stopped time. No, both gods were beaten by hax that does negate god powers, three when you count Anksarem, and God Slayer Magic was involved.

I don't consider every anime filler canon. Just the ones where Hiro Mashima were confirmed to work on, such as the final season when he worked on Acnologia's backstory. Since you're a fan of saying the anime isn't canon, this shouldn't even matter to you.

Our entire conversation basically boils down to basic english.

• Fire =/= Magic power. Fire is fire, and magic power is magic power. Basic english.
• Natsu said that he could only use Igneel's magic power once. Basic english.
• Dimaria said that END had more power than a god. Basic english.
• Brandish said that ENd's power was far more powerful than any magic she has. Basic english.

Ikusatsunagi was beaten by Natsu using demolition fist, and Dimaria was beaten by Natsu using END's power. If you want to include Zeref in the list of gods, then he's been beaten by both Natsu and Ultear. Both without god slaying magic.

 

[Ramen]

I don't consider every anime filler canon. Just the ones where Hiro Mashima were confirmed to work on, such as the final season when he worked on Acnologia's backstory. Since you're a fan of saying the anime isn't canon, this shouldn't even matter to you.

Our entire conversation basically boils down to basic english.

• Fire =/= Magic power. Fire is fire, and magic power is magic power. Basic english.
• Natsu said that he could only use Igneel's magic power once. Basic english.
• Dimaria said that END had more power than a god, and makes absolutely no mention of it having special abilities to counter gods. Basic english.
• Brandish said that ENd's power was far more powerful than any magic she has. Basic english.

Ikusatsunagi was beaten by Natsu using demolition fist, and Dimaria was beaten by Natsu using END's power. If you want to include Zeref in the list of gods, then he's been beaten by both Natsu and Ultear. Both without god slaying magic.

Do you actually expect him to concede, or to admit that you have a point? Go watch paint dry instead.

 

[WoWfan]

I don't consider every anime filler canon. Just the ones where Hiro Mashima were confirmed to work on, such as the final season when he worked on Acnologia's backstory. Since you're a fan of saying the anime isn't canon, this shouldn't even matter to you.

Our entire conversation basically boils down to basic english.

• Fire =/= Magic power. Fire is fire, and magic power is magic power. Basic english.
• Natsu said that he could only use Igneel's magic power once. Basic english.
• Dimaria said that END had more power than a god. Basic english.
• Brandish said that ENd's power was far more powerful than any magic she has. Basic english.

Ikusatsunagi was beaten by Natsu using demolition fist, and Dimaria was beaten by Natsu using END's power. If you want to include Zeref in the list of gods, then he's been beaten by both Natsu and Ultear. Both without god slaying magic.

And Hiro confirmed worked on the previous anime as well since he is confirmed to work on Tartaros especially, even other anime seasons, even in the final season, he basically reaffirm that all the other seasons are indeed canon. Even the manga confirms their canon, So for you have to say either everything is canon or none of it is, there is no middle ground. Fire is Magic Power just like how LightNing is magic power that Natsu ate during Tenrou Arc, it is visibly lightning yet and said it is magic Power, there is no difference. Once as in it cannot be replenished, as he used it before with Iku. Dimaria said that as he can over come god hax abilities. that is Brandish’s Limitation not Dimaria’s

Zeref was not killed by Natsu who failed to do so with Savage Flames that are stronger than all his other powers bar Seven Flames, and Ultear beat a weakened Zeref and could not kill him, Zeref is not a god, but his curse is god based power.

 

[Axiomus]

@MUIMadara. Final post on the subject, I promise.

And Hiro confirmed worked on the anime as well since he is confirmed to work on Tartaros especially, even other anime seasons, even in the final season, he basically reaffirm that all the other seasons are indeed canon. Even the manga confirms their canon, So for you have to say either everything is canon or none of it is, there is no middle ground. Fire is Magic Power just like how LightNing is magic power that Natsu ate during Tenrou Arc, it is visibly lightning yet and said it is magic Power, there is no difference. Once as in it cannot be replenished, as he used it before with Iku. Dimaria said that as he can over come god hax abilities. that is Brandish’s Limitation not Dimaria’s

Zeref was not killed by Natsu who failed to do so with Savage Flames that are stronger than all his other powers bar Seven Flames, and Ultear beat a weakened Zeref and could not kill him, Zeref is not a god, but his curse is god based power.

My golden rule is that the fillers must not contradict the manga. Tartaros arc's fillers actually contradict the manga. Tartaros arc had Laxus coming back and defeating Tempester instead of Gray just oneshotting Tempester. Final season fillers do not contradict the manga in any way, and in fact are essential in knowing Acnologia's backstory. Final season fillers are as canon as Acnologia's backstory, and Tartaros arc fillers are as canon as Laxus waking up and beating Tempester.

Fire isn't magic power, and lightning isn't magic power either. Natsu doesn't have Laxus' magic power anymore, but he can still use Laxus' lightning with his own magic power. Likewise, Natsu still uses Igneel's fire every time he uses an FDK spell.

Once as in once. Like I previously said, Natsu had enough magic power for one more attack against Zeref. He couldn't save that power and use it for later, which proves that Natsu can't simply portion Igneel's power to be used a little at a time. If Natsu started using Igneel's MP way back against Ikusatsunagi, it would have ran out way before he ever fought Zeref.

Dimaria never says anything about hax. Her exact words were "How can he have more power than a god?" The mental gymnastics to turn that statement into "Natsu has hax that can overcome god abilities" is astounding.

WSD Sting doesn't need to kill Dimaria. He just needs to beat her.

 

[Ramen]

@MUIMadara. Final post on the subject, I promise

If you break your promise......(again) I'm taking over as mod.

 

[WoWfan]

No, he said that he wanted Laxus to fight Temperster then, so that is not a contradiction when the manga itself is not totally what his original intent was. Yes Fire is magic power just as lightning is magic power as it is stated that they are not different from nature and life, does not change that he ate Laxus lightning which is his magic power, no Different how Igneel’s flames are his magic power.

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Yes he can as it is not a only once attack as it is just a remnant of his power, which he used on two occasions, Iku and Zeref, not it wouldn’t have since he still has those bandages on it stopped it from leaking. Because it is clearly has as she stated that only END could do that, besides Ultear with her time hax.
Dimaria clicks her teeth and then cuts his head off

 

[Ramen]

Dimaria clicks her teeth and then cuts his head off

Too bad Time Stop is restricted. Stop using it as an argument

 

[WoWfan]

Too bad Time Stop is restricted. Stop using it as an argument

That is in the other thread, take it there, besides, WSD Sting does not have the means to put God Soul Dimaria down, and she will just use Age scratch and beam him to death

 

[Ramen]

That is in the other thread, take it there

Why are you arguing Dimaria and Sting here when they aren't relevant in this discussion here?

 

[WoWfan]

Why are you arguing Dimaria and Sting here when they aren't relevant in this discussion here?

Axiomus brought it up, I followed through anyway for whatever that’s worth

 

[Axiomus]

Your response was to this post:

I'll give this to Dimaria. Maybe mid-diff.

But if you give WSD to Sting and keep age seal restricted, it quickly becomes a stomp for Sting.

Sting's WSD silk is objectively better than Dimaria's beam. It skewers his target multiple times, and actually defeated Larcade (a stronger Spriggan than Dimaria). Dimaria's lasers never even defeated Wendy and were swatted aside by Chelia.

Spoiler

Age Seal requires physical contact and only inflicts pain. Anyone who isn't a wuss can just soldier through it, and Sting doesn't even need to touch Dimaria to use WSD Silk.

 

[Ramen]

Your response was to this post.



Sting's WSD silk is objectively better than Dimaria's beam. It skewers his target multiple times, and actually defeated Larcade (a stronger Spriggan than Dimaria). Dimaria's lasers never even defeated Wendy and were swatted aside by Chelia.

Spoiler

Age Seal requires physical contact and only inflicts pain. Anyone who isn't a wuss can just soldier through it, and Sting doesn't even need to touch Dimaria to use WSD Silk.

In the end, going off of what @Vis said, Age Seal and WSD are restricted.

 

[WoWfan]

But will it even harm her? Even Wendy who could harm Irene could not even harm Dimaria In God Soul, it did defeat Wendy and would have killed her were it not from a stronger Chelia who is a legit God Slayer, even her barriers could not hold up entirely against her attacks. again, his attacks will not even harmher

 

[Axiomus]

In the end, going off of what @Vis said, Age Seal and WSD are restricted.

Sure, and I gave Dimaria the win under those conditions.

 

[WoWfan]

Still no guarantee win without restrictions for Sting

 

[Ramen]

Both have restrictions on their strongest ability. Pretty equal if you ask me.

 

[WoWfan]

But only one is guaranteed to lose, and that would be Sting when his attacks would not harm her