Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

Your posts contradicts your claims as Natsu and Rogue left Motherglare long before his fire expanded, and again, would blow the dragon in the other direction. No, that was just his dragon slayer talk when he first delivered the blow in his weakened state. Dragon Biology is not simple as they are not 100% the same one's body is fire, one is rock, one does not have a nose, one has no wings, one has no arms, one has a serpent like body, one has the head of a tiger, I can keep going. the attack that defeated Acno was smaller than the two, so then I guess Acno was weaker than any dragon with your logic. size does not matter. Atlas states that no matter what magic they have they cannot defeat dragons, Makarov's attack must be powerful then since Atlas body was intangible then. Natsu just got back up like it was nothing, he would have defeated Animus anyway. even Dorma Anim resistance to magic is based on it's toughness just like that of a dragon like you claim.

Fairy Tail Vol.39 Chapter 329: Seven Dragon

Read Fairy Tail Vol.39 Chapter 329: Seven Dragon Page 8; A young celestial mage, Lucy Heartfilia, runs away from home and travels to the land of Fiore to join the magical Fairy Tail Guild. Along the way, she meets Natsu Dragneel, a teenage boy looking for his foster parent, a dragon named...

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[Axiomus]

Natsu and Rogue never left Motherglare. Natsu's attack hit Rogue first, then engulfed Motherglare. It continued pushing both Rogue and Motherglare to the gate. The 3 of them crashed into the gate together. You can see future Rogue on top of Motherglare here.

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You can feel pain and still shrug off an attack. Shrug off an attack simply means you can continue fighting in more or less the same shape you were in before the attack. Motehrglare shrugged off every attack except the one that defeated him.

I gave plenty of reasons why Motherglare tanked the superior attack, and none of them had to do with size. Like I said, GMG Natsu was stronger than Edolas Natsu due to second origin and LFD alone. Atlas Flame gave Natsu a power-up that made GMG Natsu even stronger. You're arguing against a strawman.

Dragons might look different, but they are all still dragons. They all have dragon scales. Atlas Flame is a dragon underneath all of that fire covering his body, and when he needs to he can turn that body intangible. Most of the time he doesn't.

Atlas isn't saying that dragons are immune to magic here. He's saying that the humans can't beat him no matter what magic they have. He's wrong on that point too, because humans can learn dragon slaying magic to beat dragons.

Makarov's attack may have been powerful, but Atlas Flame never turned intangible for his punch. The punch connected solidly with his face. If Atlas had been intangible, his hand would have passed clean through Atlas Flame's head.

Animus wrecked base Natsu, and it took a massive amount of POF for him to even heal those wounds. Also, Natsu wouldn't have beaten Animus unless he dragonized. Animus was actually winning the exchanges even after Natsu got back up and gave his POF speech.

 

[WoWfan]

yes they have , you yourself posed the scene so you should know it. That is not how explosions work, they expand outward with force so Motherglare would be pushed away from Natsu and Rogue. Rogue is not literally connected to Motherglare so there would be nothing pulling the dragon with the guys. There is a difference when you are actually attacked by a weakened person and a fresh person, Motherglare got the former. It doesn't matter what version it is when one was at death's door and the other isn't, where the former did more damage to a dragon than a fresh Natsu actually struggled. and that is proof enough that magic cannot affect them. Animus did not wreck anything, Natsu just got up later, he would have eventually beaten Animus the way he was, but Animus became 24x Etherion so of course he needed to Dragonize.

 

[Axiomus]

It's daily meditation at this point.

yes they have , you yourself posed the scene so you should know it. That is not how explosions work, they expand outward with force so Motherglare would be pushed away from Natsu and Rogue. Rogue is not literally connected to Motherglare so there would be nothing pulling the dragon with the guys. There is a difference when you are actually attacked by a weakened person and a fresh person, Motherglare got the former. It doesn't matter what version it is when one was at death's door and the other isn't, where the former did more damage to a dragon than a fresh Natsu actually struggled. and that is proof enough that magic cannot affect them. Animus did not wreck anything, Natsu just got up later, he would have eventually beaten Animus the way he was, but Animus became 24x Etherion so of course he needed to Dragonize.

No they didn't. Natsu and Rogue were pressed up against Motherglare the whole time. Rogue is literally lying on top of Motherglare in the image I posted. The 3 of them crashed into the Eclipse Gate together.

Motherglare got attacked by a version of Natsu with second origin, amped up by the power of Atlas Flame that made Natsu stronger than when he had LFD. In other words, way stronger than pre-timeskip Natsu without LFD.

Eating dragon cry only restored Animus to his full power. Remember, Animus was weakened much in the same way the parent dragons were and had to seal himself in Sonya.

It was only after Natsu dragonized and started beating him up that Animus absorbed the power that dragon cry was unleashing with its magic circles into his body. Not that any of this matters. Alvarez-arc Natsu doesn't need to tap into POF, let alone Dragonize to beat Droma Anim. He would oneshot Droma Anim with less difficulty than it took to oneshot Bluenote.

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[WoWfan]

It's daily meditation at this point.



No they didn't. Natsu and Rogue were pressed up against Motherglare the whole time. Rogue is literally lying on top of Motherglare in the image I posted. The 3 of them crashed into the Eclipse Gate together.

Motherglare got attacked by a version of Natsu with second origin, amped up by the power of Atlas Flame that made Natsu stronger than when he had LFD. In other words, way stronger than pre-timeskip Natsu without LFD.

Eating dragon cry only restored Animus to his full power. Remember, Animus was weakened much in the same way the parent dragons were and had to seal himself in Sonya.

It was only after Natsu dragonized and started beating him up that Animus absorbed the power that dragon cry was unleashing with its magic circles into his body. Not that any of this matters. Alvarez-arc Natsu doesn't need to tap into POF, let alone Dragonize to beat Droma Anim. He would oneshot Droma Anim with less difficulty than it took to oneshot Bluenote.

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Go look at the scene again and say that with a straight face because they left its body along time ago, you proved yourself wrong. Rogue was standing on top, not lying down on it, stop making things up. Motherglare got attacked by a near dead Natsu, not peak second origin natsu, so then you say that Animus was the same strength as Igneel? Good to know. Animus became 24x Etherion by the time he ate it, Natsu did need to tap into is as he clearly stated. Magic power affects the body, if that Black Magic guy was destroyed by its power just by holding it, then eating it means he is has control of that magic power

 

[Axiomus]

Go look at the scene again and say that with a straight face because they left its body along time ago, you proved yourself wrong. Rug was standing on top, not lying down on it, stop making things up. Motherglare got attacked by a near dead Natsu, not peak second origin natsu, so then you say that Animus was the same strength as Igneel? Good to know. Animus became 24x Etherion by the time he ate it, Natsu did need to tap into is as he clearly stated. Magic power affects the body, if that Black Magic guy was destroyed by its power just by holding it, then eating it means he is has control of that magic power

Dude... You can literally see that Rogue is lying on top of Motherglare in the image I posted. This tells us that Rogue, Natsu, and Motherglare crashed into the Eclipse together. Which meant that Natsu and Rogue never left Motherglare's body.

When did I say that Animus was as strong as Igneel? I said Animus was weakened the same way the all parent dragons were. He had to save himself by sealing himself in Sonya. When he ate dragon cry, he told dragon cry to restore his full power. Watch the clip I post. If you can't be bothered to read the subs, then just listen to the Japanese. I'll make it real simple: 私の完全な力 (watashi ni kanzeni chikara) = My full power. It doesn't get any clearer than that. Eating dragon cry only restored Animus to his prime, and Igneel even when weakened is still stronger than Animus in his prime.

Motherglare got attacked by an amped-up Natsu who was boosted way above his limits.

 

[WoWfan]

Yet in the scene you provided, Rogue and Natsu left Motherglare a while back, Atlas was the one that attacked Motherglare, as we see him also charging for an attack too And how his hands extended out when motherglare was hit. that is just a bonus as dragon cry is power beyond even his level yet he had magic power of 24x etherion when he ate it, just like Black Wizard guy had 24x etherion MP before he was destroyed by it. Motherglare was wounded by a near dead Natsu with the first attack, which is far less impressive than a near fresh natsu delivering minute amount of damage to Dorma Anim.

 

[Axiomus]

Yet in the scene you provided, Rogue and Natsu left Motherglare a while back, Atlas was the one that attacked Motherglare, as we see him also charging for an attack too And how his hands extended out when motherglare was hit. that is just a bonus as dragon cry is power beyond even his level yet he had magic power of 24x etherion when he ate it, just like Black Wizard guy had 24x etherion MP before he was destroyed by it. Motherglare was wounded by a near dead Natsu with the first attack, which is far less impressive than a near fresh natsu delivering minute amount of damage to Dorma Anim.

They never left in the gif I posted. If you watch the anime, they make it explicitly clear that Natsu's attack hits Rogue and engulfs Rogue, then all 3 crash into the Eclipse. They make it pretty clear in the manga too. I'm done arguing this.

Eating dragon cry only restored Animus to his full power. It was only after Natsu dragonized that started beating him up that Animus absorbed more of dragon cry's power to power himself up. Again, Alvarez Natsu would oneshot Droma Anim with less difficulty than it took to oneshot Bluenote. Animus pushed Natsu to the extreme.

You mean before Natsu ate Atlas Flame's power? Motherglare shrugged off that attack and kept flying around on Rogue's orders. No, Droma Anim wasn't more impressive. Droma Anim had the plates of its back dented by Gajeel's club so that it could no longer shoot missiles.

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[WoWfan]

Yes he did, he literally did, Motherglare left the image when Natsu and Rogue was shooting away, so you are saying that Draogn Cry, powered by many dragon’s is equal only to one dragon? That is a bigger let down for a Dragon‘s strength than I thought. Your image is broken again. Motherglare was still injured as his scales are were fragmented. Gajeel was powered up by Wendy and was near fresh, while massively Weakened Gajeel could still clobber a fresh Dragon

 

[Axiomus]

Yes he did, he literally did, Motherglare left the image when Natsu and Rogue was shooting away, so you are saying that Draogn Cry, powered by many dragon’s is equal only to one dragon? That is a bigger let down for a Dragon‘s strength than I thought. Your image is broken again. Motherglare was still injured as his scales are were fragmented. Gajeel was powered up by Wendy and was near fresh, while massively Weakened Gajeel could still clobber a fresh Dragon

Just watch the entire scene for yourself. Natsu's attack pushes both Rogue and Motherglare into the Eclipse, and Rogue is lying on top of Motherglare when the dust settles. How could Natsu, Rogue, and Motherglare all crash into the gate if Natsu pushed Rogue off and away from Motherglare? How could Rogue end up lying on top of Motherglare?

No, I'm saying Animus only used dragon cry to restore himself to his prime when he ate it. It was only after Natsu dragonized and started beating him up that he absorbed more of dragon cry's power to power himself up. He was using most of dragon cry's power to blast the city before that.

The image I post is one where Gajeel smashes the plates on Droma Anim's back. Gajeel couldn't do any real damage to his GMG dragon. Gajeel had ISD against the GMG dragon btw. Motherglare was in near optimal shape after pretty much all of Natsu's attacks, except the one that defeated him. Even the attack that defeated Motherglare didn't actually slay him. Droma Anim had a massive hole in it's back.

 

[WoWfan]

Yet that does not proof your contradiction as Natsu and Rogue flew right off the dragon and then exploded outward which would send Motherglare in The other direction, unless you are going to claim that there was some sort of chain that connected the two and dragged the dragon with the otherwise you have two choices. One that was a mere error on the editors part or that Atlas attacked Motherglare. That is not how Dragon Cry works as it just releases the magic power of it, so Animus ate the magic equivalent to 24x etherions released. It doesn’t matter, the damage Was clear and they were injured

 

[Axiomus]

Yet that does not proof your contradiction as Natsu and Rogue flew right off the dragon and then exploded outward which would send Motherglare in The other direction, unless you are going to claim that there was some sort of chain that connected the two and dragged the dragon with the otherwise you have two choices. One that was a mere error on the editors part or that Atlas attacked Motherglare. That is not how Dragon Cry works as it just releases the magic power of it, so Animus ate the magic equivalent to 24x etherions released. It doesn’t matter, the damage Was clear and they were injured

@Bold What are you talking about? Natsu's attack hit Rogue, and continued pushing until it engulfed Motherglare. They all crashed into the Eclipse Gate together. Just watch the clip I posted, it shows exactly what happened.

Animus literally said that Dragon Cry would restore his full power. That's what it did. He used the rest of dragon cry's power to blast the city. It was only when Natsu dragonized and started beating him up that Animus absorbed more of dragon cry's power (coming from the magic circles in the sky) to make himself stronger.

Lol...Motherglare was less injured than Droma Anim no matter how you spin it. Motherglare tanked many attacks that would have obliterated Droma Anim. Even the attack that finally defeated Motherglare didn't actually kill him. Natsu's attack drilled a massive hole in Dorma Anim's torso. If Droma Anim was an actual living dragon, that would have been a lethal injury.

 

[WoWfan]

Wrong as Nastu and Rogue was sent flying so fast that Motherglare were completely off screen, and with the expanding flame would send Motherglare in a different direction away from the tw. Restore but not limited to, DC was already released so then he would have to endure it’s energy so he would be at that level already. Correction, the continent. Dragonized natsu was stronger than 24x Etherion Animus, just as Natsu would be enough for base Animus. Again, Natsu was weakened so he doesn’t scale, yet Natsu at fresh was unable to do more damage than when he did to Motherglare while weakened.

 

[Ramen]

Spriggan's ranking:

1) August
2) Irene
3) Dimaria
4) Wahl
5) Bloodman
6) Larcade
7) God Serena
8) Ajeel
9) Invel
10) Neinhart
11) Jacob
12) Brandish

Imo

 

[WoWfan]

1. August
2. Irene
3. Larcade
4. Invel
5. God Serena
6. Brandish
7. Dimaria
8. Wall
9. Bloodman
10. Jacob
11. Neinhart
12. Ajeel

 

[grey matter]

1. August
2. Eileen
3. Larcade
4. Serena
5. Bradman
6. Dimaria
7. Invel
8. Wahl
9. Ajeel
10. Neinhart
11. Jacob
12. Brandish

 

[Demon Hunter]

not counting DF since it's not really clear whether or not Natsu can use it whenever he wishes

1. Gildarts
2. Laxus
3. Erza
4. Natsu
5. Gajeel
6. Mirajane
7. Gray
8. Elfman
9. Lucy
10. Wendy

 

[Ramen]

not counting DF since it's not really clear whether or not Natsu can use it whenever he wishes

1. Gildarts
2. Laxus
3. Erza
4. Natsu
5. Gajeel
6. Mirajane
7. Gray
8. Elfman
9. Lucy
10. Wendy

All he needs is to get really angry right? Why can't he just get angry fright from the beginning? He kinda used it at will against Zeref IIRC.

 

[Aurelius]

1. August
2. Irene
3. Larcade
4. Invel
5. God Serena
6. Brandish
7. Dimaria
8. Wall
9. Bloodman
10. Jacob
11. Neinhart
12. Ajeel

Surprised you have Wahl at 8. Is he at least your favorite spriggan?

 

[WoWfan]

Surprised you have Wahl at 8. Is he at least your favorite spriggan?

I put a more accurate scaling before my personal feelings of who I enjoy