Games Mafia Game 80 - FGO - Endgame

[Holt]

Alright game info here:

ROLE LIST & PLAYER STATUS

PLAYER TARGETS

NIGHT ACTIONS

 

[lakhan220]

Btw, abt double lynches, people having same number of votes are both lynched ? Or is there any other condition ?

 

[SirSamuel016]

Btw, abt double lynches, people having same number of votes are both lynched ? Or is there any other condition ?

If they're tied for votes, then as far as I understand it whoever has the most votelocks is the one lynched?

 

[lakhan220]

What is your role? all the dets are out it seems so there's no point in hiding it anymore. If you do I'll reveal myself.

Not a det and no, i m not comfortable revealing yet after seeing what happened to gry + other risks . I have already hinted pretty much everything.
Until we get some more mafia reduced, i would like for them to think of options & play safe.

Until it becomes absolute necessity, am treading cautiously.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2020, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2020 ---

If they're tied for votes, then as far as I understand it whoever has the most votelocks is the one lynched?

And if same votelocks ?

 

[Brandish μ]

Ur contributions . U being one of the vet and yet u come , troll (Ur usual nature ), provide directions (as in affect the flow) and just go away. It is like you are trying to stay in shadows and pretty much pull strings from behind. Then there is ur claim of investigator, but nothing of results..Sounds really fishy

Nah I'm not a vet or some puppeteer lmao. My claim is clean and crisp.

Then there is this. Sure, i can just look at it as U and gryffy trying to get back to gry for his suspicions of previous days and such.
Let's see night before , when gryff tried to elevate me (just some random choice) voicing his concerns against numbering
My 4 votes - Farfy, bran, gryffy + Penalty
Gry lynch before he was killed - farfy , bran, gryffy

Now, the moment, gry was lynched & role revealed after death, u did go for farfy , which was obvious from asa's results , which also gave us her results of sanity . (Believing her for now).

The way i see it, if farfy's results are mafia
A- if related to beno, my suspicions of u all being related is less and i need to observe more
B if u r related to van, very clever move then. (Hiding behind pretext of noob move - Would a vet really do something as all from same team or multiple members from same team try to save their comrade or try to take out gry ?)

If she is some 3rd party, then, i will have to really rethink my decisions

Then there is also the claim of gryffy where he said juviii protected him, which we may know from kato's results tonight.

I m only hinting tht there r too much co incidences going on arnd with especially you three .

Tht is why i will wait for farfs results to push my case ahead, if we manage to get tht.

Now, as for double lynch, i don't mind since zasz is already suspicious with tht mess up , would wait until we reach on consensus.

You know Gryff is just a fanboy of mine. He's always following me hoping I take him under my wing.

Not really sure to think about the rest of that. With Gryff, he believes Juviii shielded him. It's a guess on his part.

 

[SonOfDaws]

Daws you're seriously right now up to lynching brandish that we have no idea if he really mafia than a confirmed one...

Guys, if zasz isn't lynched today, should I investigate him or brandish
I want your opinion

I would go with someone on the periphery. Kato, the other det claim is a possibility, but obviously an odd pick. That's my first thought though: Trust can come from being thrown into the limelight and the fire or it can come from a trusted person spreading the wealth. It can be lost that way too.

Regardless, you've seeming done well enough at picking targets on your own, so I don't think anyone else's investigation picks should be anything more than additional small pieces of info/evidence.

 

[Takuan]

Alright i'm here. I just finished backreading what i missed, here ar my thoughts (the majority of which are similar to what you guys said).

First, that assassin kill on Gry makes absolutely zero sense to me.
Gry was being suspected and had good chances of being lynched. Why would the assassin remove such a good lynch candidate.
That makes Farfalla the main suspect of today, which again, makes me question the assassin's motive. That could only mean that Farfalla is not in the Assassin's team. Then again, the assassin chosing literally any other target would have made more sense. Did Gry say something that made the assassin panick or something?

Anyway, now Farfalla is most likely mafia... Well. I really wanted to believe she was town. Just pointing out something that nobody else yet said: the possibility of a Santa Claus in the game. The only possibility of Farf being town is that Asako got redirected, but by who? Nobody came out to claim BK, so i don't believe there's a BK. However we've been wondering for a while what could be the cause of so few kills, especially after hearing that James was indeed PGO so one kill was from him. People assumed SS or SC. Just saying, i don't necessarily think there's a SC, but that would be imo the only possibility of Farf being town.

I'm not willing to give her the benefit f the doubt just based on that alone though, so Farf is an obvious choice for a lynch.

Then there's the Zasz situation.
The fact that the assassin didn't kill him means to me that the assassin didn't think he was Freeman (which anyway i don't think anyone believed). Is Zasz a Burden in the Assassin team? Maybe, that could be why he got spared, not killing the teammate. Or A Burden in another mafia team? Possible as well, the mafia team without assassin would never want to kill a Burden. Or he could be Bomb, since this theory was going on. I doubt he is bomb, since i am bomb myself, and i really don't know if there could be two bombs. That's the option i believe the least.
In any case, with the double lynch possibility being on the table, personally i doubt that would work. Any mafia member can step up at any time to save one of them. Even without that, there's the fact that we need the same amount of votes and locked votes, which makes it a pain especially in the last minutes. If you guys want to try we can try, but i doubt it will happen.
Another plan would be to let Asako investigate him so that we are sure of his alliance. Which is what i already proposed several times, and i stick with that.

Next, about Brandish. I've been starting to suspect him a bit, and i have to say, i really, really like what Daws is saying. Not only now, throughout the whole game he's made very good points and i agreed with his posts the vast majority of times. I agree that Brandish is definitely suspicious.

I backread very fast while waking up so i might have missed stuff, but that's basically it. I'm probably going to vote Farf. A double lynch can be done, but... Yeaaaah i doubt we'll manage to do it. We at least have a confirmed mafia already (if we assume no SC).

Next phase though, we'll have Zasz to talk about especially with Asako's results on him hopefully, and we'll have Brandish to talk about as well.

Votekill Farfalla

 

[Farfalla]

Not a det and no, i m not comfortable revealing yet after seeing what happened to gry + other risks . I have already hinted pretty much everything.
Until we get some more mafia reduced, i would like for them to think of options & play safe.

Until it becomes absolute necessity, am treading cautiously.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2020, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2020 ---

And if same votelocks ?

Lak, that was alrdy explained by Holt in the previous phase...

If there are 2 or more people tied with the same amount of normal votes and votelocks, there's a 1 hour extension.
If after the extension a tie remains, with the same criteria, all the tied ones get lynched.

Penalties count as locks.

 

[Lambu]

Green '_' ?

Not a det and no, i m not comfortable revealing yet after seeing what happened to gry + other risks . I have already hinted pretty much everything.
Until we get some more mafia reduced, i would like for them to think of options & play safe.

Until it becomes absolute necessity, am treading cautiously.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2020, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2020 ---

And if same votelocks ?

Are you a doctor? If you are just say so.

Some thoughts to keep in mind:

- Dont let Taku escape, he's pretty much his mafia self this game. If theres a Bomb defuser just use it on him so he can be lynched safely.
Seriously, dont let him escape, this game is a huge deja vu from Fumetsu.

- Lawl lied about his role and this day hasnt been bright for him, but I want to give him benefit of the doubt for his exploits in both D1 and D2.

- I trust gnut fully, but that doesnt mean I trust James in the same way, he's still much safer than more than half of the bunch and the pgo situation would explain everything better.

- Lights out for Demon, he could be an Insane apprentice if Bel wasn't, he could also be red mafia 50% chance.

- Brandish's game has been identical to desin's, but with more posts. Scum most probably.

- Sam is worth investigating, a lot.

- shinobi, lakhan and co need to go kf they dont start revealing pronto.

- Daws gives me mixed feelings, has mafia aura in one post then full town after. I would like to know what he is before coming to conclusions.

- Gryff same as above, but way more mafo ironically.

- Asako needs to be protected, we have to avoid overlapping tho. Same with G.

 

[Farfalla]

I wanna highlight that anyone giving a pass to both Zasz and Taku in the belief they're both bombs should be in the radar as well, I can't be the only one to think that two bombs here + PGO + BP + Hider is a bit ridiculous. With those claims, we're a town of investigators and traps/shields.

 

[Lambu]

Ah right Zasz lol, if he doesnt kick the bucket at night we have to lynch him. Farf is 100% mafia confirmed by det so I would take her over him.

 

[James Rye]

Well, good for me that I trusted Gry, he played not his usual Mafia-self or TP-self. Shame on all of you who voted to lynch Gry though, Shame!

I didn't think my post was confusing, but yea I was sharing my opinion

Btw guys what do u think of doing a double lynch on both zasz and farfalla
I see we fight over who to lynch today, but can't we just lynch them both

yes double lynch trying

I'm all up for a double Lynch since Zasz being alive at least to me means that he is not freeman. Asako has no reason to lie this early and no other detective has sprung up although I guess that is because of fear of impending annihilation.

We can't double lynch. I asked last day when I could have cause a tie between Erin and Vand but got told we would get an extra hour if that happens. Meaning even after the hour is done the hosts will most likely just let a coin toss decide who dies after the hour is over and vote/votelocks numbers remain the same.

Daws you're seriously right now up to lynching brandish that we have no idea if he really mafia than a confirmed one...

Guys, if zasz isn't lynched today, should I investigate him or brandish
I want your opinion

Both are shady, but I'd say go for Brand first. I mean we can pretty much guess that Zasz is full of shit when even the Asassins avoid killing a freeman like the plague over a freaking Mortician. XD

Seriously though killing Gry and thus sentencing Farf to die was such a weird move by the Assassin. Feels like somebody who have no real idea what the most important targets are to kill during the day. Or like a troll who just wants mayhem, but Lawl is playing way too pro-townie for that to be the case. Maybe Zasz? <.<
It would explain why the Assassin didn't target him because Zasz cannot target himself. XD

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2020, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2020 ---

Also Votelock Farfalla. Lets get the day over with.

 

[Lambu]

Erin is probably mafia, maybe red like Van unless she reveals relevant information. Her posts are reserved but not devoid of content tho, a claim would make me believe her a little more

 

[Farfalla]

 

[Brandish μ]

Yes investigate me over Zasz.

 

[Lambu]

@Asako @gnut you should coordinate over who to investigate tonight.

 

[James Rye]

@Asako @gnut you should coordinate over who to investigate tonight.

Well, gnut should pick someone we believe to be Mafia/TP most certainly as he only got two towns so far.

 

[desin24]

Ok so we can't double Lynch. votekill Farfalla Zasz and Brandish are next and definitely targets for any whores out there.

 

[lakhan220]

Are you a doctor? If you are just say so.

No, am not. And what is this forcing of reveal despite so many hints ? Until we get any hints on mafia escort (if there is any) and assassin roaming arnd, I m seriously starting to doubt ur hurry of Revelations. Like i said, if push comes to shove, won't hesitate to reveal it.Keep some patience ffs.

And as for how things stand, Looks consensus has been reached, And there is not gonna be any double lynches.
With tht in mind, Farfy is more suspicious and confirmed over zasz. So, Votelock Farfalla .

 

[Demonspeed]

Did you guys forget that Greg said he got Guilty for James and Pom? If you trust Asako then Greg is Paranoid, Asako is Insane and Gajeel was Sane/Naive.

 

[Farfalla]

Ok so we can't double Lynch. votekill Farfalla Zasz and Brandish are next and definitely targets for any whores out there.

Why the early signal to your escort pal? Our prostitute died lmao.