Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ratrace]

It's not just than Erza got more feats or better feats, it's also (more importantly) that Erza got feats from which we can make direct comparisons to Mira's feats, and hence make stat comparisons. And to be fair to Mira, I even excluded parts where Erza used POF, like the infamous "she's Erza moment" in Tartarus, hearing Jellal's 'voice' and using guild/tree power against Azuma, and Erza slashing Sema with broken bones.

Being MC isn't the end all. Side characters like Gildarts, Laxus and Jellal have shown feats from which we could draw direct comparisons to Erza, and they have shown better feats (in the few occasions they're allowed to shine)

Even the narrative doesn't support "Mira is Erza's rival" anymore. That's gone the same way that Natsu's rivalry with Gray and Gajeel has gone. Laxus and Jellal is probably the only rivalry in which some credible cases/arguments are there that still can be made, and that's still afloat only because they're both side characters and equally irrelevant in Mashima's eyes lmao

I agree with what you and I remembered Lucy and Grey and how Mashima doesn't treat them nearly as well as Erza and Natsu even though they're MC as well

 

[Ramen]

Y'all still debating this? Mira is no where near the other s class. Simple

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Just to add

It was stated on the card that limiter release form lost all non attacks power but how come Seilah's speed doubled if not tripled?

vs J&H, i do believe that Sitri can handle them the only reason why Mira showcase her Alegria form is they are mocking her trump card. And you already know what happened next. J & H were only being mocked due to the nature of their magic. But they are strong. Remember they were liuettenants of the most powerful female spriggan. Even the average spriggan's liuttenant, Marin can cancel Erza's requip.

Alegria is like Nakagami the last time Erza used it she was saved by Natsu from falling from the sky because it took a lot of her MP. And she used it for Ajeel? The one who lost to Elfman ( is there anyone who think Lisanna greatly help Elfman? Cat soul lol)

Regarding Jacob, Mira was fighting him w/o a takeover form and was only able to use it in her final blow. Yes, Mira noted that it help her to win the fight ( Jacob closing his eyes) because she was magically exhausted. But please do take note that Jacob is an expert assasin, he cant even see Mavis, but he was able to locate her spirit precisely.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Even the average spriggan's liuttenant, Marin can cancel Erza's requip.

Marin only canceled her magic because of the nature of his magic not because of his power. Lucy even used him to nullify Jacob's transport. Law of Space can cancel most space magic.

Alegria is like Nakagami the last time Erza used it she was saved by Natsu from falling from the sky because it took a lot of her MP. And she used it for Ajeel? The one who lost to Elfman ( is there anyone who think Lisanna greatly help Elfman? Cat soul lol)

She did actually help him with her bird form. Ajeel down Elfman with ant lion pit. It was Lissana who saved him. Nakagami had nothing do with Erza falling from the sky it was the damage done to her by Ajeel and Gajeel even outright says it. You are making stuff up. Ajeel lost to elfman because his magic was countered by Elfman.

because she was magically exhausted. But please do take note that Jacob is an expert assasin, he cant even see Mavis, but he was able to locate her spirit precisely

What does this mean? Jacob had his eyes open when he attacked Mavis. Show me something of Jacob attacking Mavis with his eyes closed.
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[Aurelius]

How did we go from a Gray v. Mira thread to comparing her and Erza.

Anyways @Axiomus I saw your comments about a possible Ignia and Aldoron fight. Based on what we've seen so far, would you say it's fair that Ignia would have the advantage over Aldoron when they fight as Dragons, and Aldoron would have the advantage if they fought on Aldoron with Ignia in his human form?

 

[Axiomus]

Assuming Seilah is 1 year tier than tartarus Erza ( assuming Erza, Neo minerva and kyouka are on the same tier).
Then how can she possibly macroed 2 mage who are tier above her lol.

And she did it w/o effort. There were at least 5 to 10 seconds for Erza and Neo Minerva to overpower Seilah's curse.

And she did while using macro on a dead person and Seilah was depleted to the point that she can be one shotted by satan soul.

Because she caught them by surprised when they weren't even paying attention to her. And again, we're talking about their combat stats.

Quite frankly, it doesn't matter if we simply ignore the card stats. Kyouka absorbed all of Seilah's remaining curse power, and Kyouka's physical enhancement increases her power every second. She's at least as strong as Seilah, if not stronger. Even if Kyouka and Seilah are on the exact same level in terms of combat stats (and this is being generous to Seilah), the fact still remains Erza is "TOO STRONG!!!" for them while Mirajane basically admits she can't take them in a straight fight.

It was stated on the card that limiter release form lost all non attacks power but how come Seilah's speed doubled if not tripled?

Seilah's speed never doubled. She was never that fast, even with her limit release.

Anyways @Axiomus I saw your comments about a possible Ignia and Aldoron fight. Based on what we've seen so far, would you say it's fair that Ignia would have the advantage over Aldoron when they fight as Dragons, and Aldoron would have the advantage if they fought on Aldoron with Ignia in his human form?

Well, this was just an idea based off the fact that Aldoron is recovering from an injury. Since Ignia likes to fight and is still bored, I figured he already tried fighting some of the other god dragons.

 

[Ramen]

Well, this was just an idea based off the fact that Aldoron is recovering from an injury. Since Ignia likes to fight and is still bored, I figured he already tried fighting some of the other god dragons.

Nah Ignia doesn't want the smoke.

 

[Aurelius]

Well, this was just an idea based off the fact that Aldoron is recovering from an injury. Since Ignia likes to fight and is still bored, I figured he already tried fighting some of the other god dragons.

Plausible, thoughts on the point I raised?

 

[Axiomus]

Plausible, but thoughts on the point I raised

You mean the fight itself? I mean, sure. I haven't thought too deeply into how the actual fight went down, though I would imagine they probably fought as dragons.

 

[Ramen]

I'm just waiting for the Viernes arc.

 

[aymen24]

I agree
There is no one who can give wounds to Aldron, except a person of his level

Ignia is the only one who lives to fight

Perhaps we will know this in the fight of Aldron and Natsu

 

[Ramen]

I agree
There is no one who can give wounds to Aldron, except a person of his level

Ignia is the only one who lives to fight

Perhaps we will know this in the fight of Aldron and Natsu

Merc could too. Mashima just didn't show us his full power. Also, we don't know anything about Selene and Viernes.


I'm callling it, Viernes will be the strongest DG. He wants us to think Ignia is, but it's actually someone else. He's done it many times before.

 

[aymen24]

yes, I know that
But ignia is the only one who lives for the challenge
that's what I mean

 

[Ramen]

yes, I know that
But ignia is the only one who lives for the challenge
that's what I mean

Ignia is a bucket.

 

[grey matter]

Ignia is a bucket.

What's a bucket?

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Merc could too. Mashima just didn't show us his full power. Also, we don't know anything about Selene and Viernes.


I'm callling it, Viernes will be the strongest DG. He wants us to think Ignia is, but it's actually someone else. He's done it many times before.

Yep, same.

I too think Niernes will be the strongest Dragon God. It fits mashima's narrative style IMO

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You guys take that card game way too seriously....

I agree that the card game isn't to be taken seriously.

But even manga points to Kyouka being > Sayla.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Because she caught them by surprised when they weren't even paying attention to her. And again, we're talking about their combat stats.

Quite frankly, it doesn't matter if we simply ignore the card stats. Kyouka absorbed all of Seilah's remaining curse power, and Kyouka's physical enhancement increases her power every second. She's at least as strong as Seilah, if not stronger. Even if Kyouka and Seilah are on the exact same level in terms of combat stats (and this is being generous to Seilah), the fact still remains Erza is "TOO STRONG!!!" for them while Mirajane basically admits she can't take them in a straight fight.



Seilah's speed never doubled. She was never that fast, even with her limit release.



Well, this was just an idea based off the fact that Aldoron is recovering from an injury. Since Ignia likes to fight and is still bored, I figured he already tried fighting some of the other god dragons.

Limit release form was much faster than base seilah. Sitri was punch before even she can react. Do i need to post it? Lol.

Again even if if they not caught by surprised they cant do anything about macro. Seilah is what at 1% of her life. But she was able to macro them w/o putting an effort Luckily Mira was there or else RIP Erza.

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Anyway keep safe everyone. Covid19 needs to chill. Here in the Philippines people are dying not by Covid but due to hunger.

 

[Ramen]

Philippines people are dying not by Covid but due to hunger.

Stay safe bro.

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What's a bucket?

Slang for idiot.

Yep, same.

I too think Niernes will be the strongest Dragon God. It fits mashima's narrative style IMO

I can think of a couple ways he could be. But I hope Ignia is like Laxus and Viernes is like Gildarts. Viernes is the quite but strongest one.

However, if you ask me, none of them are actually villians, Elfseria will be the final villian.

 

[Axiomus]

Limit release form was much faster than base seilah. Sitri was punch before even she can react. Do i need to post it? Lol.

Again even if if they not caught by surprised they cant do anything about macro. Seilah is what at 1% of her life. But she was able to macro them w/o putting an effort Luckily Mira was there or else RIP Erza.

Sitri was never shown to be all that fast either, so blitzing her isn't really a benchmark. Seilah was landing hits on Mirajane with just her books earlier.

Again, completely irrelevant. The argument here isn't whether or not Erza could stop Seilah's macro. It's how she stacks up to everyone in straight combat, and she's stronger than Kyouka when it comes to that....Which makes her far stronger than Mirajane.

But yeah, stay safe.

 

[grey matter]

I can think of a couple ways he could be. But I hope Ignia is like Laxus and Viernes is like Gildarts. Viernes is the quite but strongest one.

However, if you ask me, none of them are actually villians, Elfseria will be the final villian.

Yep, none of them except Ignia and Selena are villain materials. And even Ignia just seems to be a hothead looking for a fight than an actual villain. Only Selene is potentially gonna be an actual villain.
Merc and Aldoron seems to just want to live their lives peacefully, but kept getting screwed over. Viernes, we'l have to see.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Sitri was never shown to be all that fast either, so blitzing her isn't really a benchmark. Seilah was landing hits on Mirajane with just her books earlier.

Again, completely irrelevant. The argument here isn't whether or not Erza could stop Seilah's macro. It's how she stacks up to everyone in straight combat, and she's stronger than Kyouka when it comes to that....Which makes her far stronger than Mirajane.

But yeah, stay safe.

My only argument here is Limit release Seilah is much faster than base Seilah. Thats why i dont believe on the cards. Lol.

In manga you can even get killed by using paper ( my ultimate wifey Konan)