Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Meanwhile, My Hero Academia seiyuus...

https://gonintendo.com/stories/3609...ce-actors-visit-each-other-in-animal-crossing

 

[Koni]

The Jump guide has been updated to the 2020.

I put the link because the pic is very big (at normal size you can't read well the texts) and for some reason I can't upload the pic directly to the post:

Is the bottom one in Honorary WSJ Members World Trigger?
And what was the manga in the top section of The Original Gagbowl?

Other than that, I find this real funny.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Is the bottom one in Honorary WSJ Members World Trigger?
And what was the manga in the top section of The Original Gagbowl?

Other than that, I find this real funny.

Yes, and Samon

TBH I dunno why Torture Princess is on the honorary WSJ members over Jigokuraku. And since every 10s manga that ended is there (Hinomaru, AssClass, Saiki, Samon, etc), I would maybe have also added Nisekoi and Kuroko no Basket

 

[Rain Spectre]

Spy has an Instagram now.

 

[James Rye]

So, I was browsing twitter and saw...this.

HOLY SWEET VINEGAR THAT'S A LOTTA BOOKS

Since this is the before where is the after picture?^^

 

[101nemesis]

I think it is going to be hard if this one doesn't top that since the upcoming three volumes will only have 3 days for their first week.

Oh dang, that's true. That would be disappointing if it never got to beat that record solely because of less days.

maybe someone already notice and this been discussed..
BattleBowl for newbie battle manga they all come in pair/duo.. as shown in their first (chapter) LCP:
Zipman (rip) = twins (one of them as suit)
Undead Unluck = well, undead and unluck
Guardian of the witch = guardian + witch
Bone collection = shaman + yokai
and even Burn the witch
thats 5 times in row..

did shueisha panic and start looking in their one shot library and take on that had a pair on it.. haha you know why.. or its just coincidence, shuesha with blindfold rolled the dice and got combo 5 straight times..??
nvm...

Most of the time, battle series are never a single lead. It's either a duo or multiple people.
Single protagonists makes the setting boring, characters won't stand out etc etc.

Take the biggest two series right now in the industry. Kimetsu and One Piece. Kimetsu was always a duo. One Piece is a lot more than 1 person.
Take some of the biggest battle series from the last 25 years. HxH (Gon x Killua mostly, 2 others usually there), Naruto (Team 7), Bleach (Ichigo and Rukia), Reborn (Tsuna and Reborn), Gintama (Trio). Heck, even a short non-battle series like Death Note (L and Kira or Kira and Ryuk, depending on how you want to see it) etc etc etc.

You can do the same for stuff that aren't in WSJ as well or aimed at a different demographic like Kingdom, Tokyo Ghoul etc.
Even sports manga do this. Haikyuu!!, Kuroko, Ace of Diamond are some examples in sports manga. Assassination Classroom, Dr. Stone, Act Age, Bakuman are some other examples from non-conventional manga.

This is the case for most movies, tv series or anything, really.

 

[Newkerzy]

Oh dang, that's true. That would be disappointing if it never got to beat that record solely because of less days.

Sounds bloody ripe for a conspiracy theory of Nak & Co. trying to stop Kimetsu from toppling every one of OP's record except lifetime sales.

 

[Melvo]

Today's the day we're gonna see ''Kimetsu no Yaiba (END)'' in the TOC, but it's going to be there for a while with Oricon. I'm gonna miss that manga so much

 

[savethecat]

Inb4 Kimetsu No Yaiba Ends, and Kimetsu No Yaiba Battle Tendency starts in a few weeks

 

[pamuchi]

In fact there's a rumor going on that there will be gaidens staring in fall, but they will be published on SQ.

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

Kimetsu was the first manga I kept up with on a week to week basis. Sad to see it go next. Good luck to Gotouge in whatever they do. Something that still boogles me we how I thought kny will max out at 20 million in sales now we are talking about if it will reach 100 million lifetimes sales lol

 

[haijihusbando]

A third KnY Light Novel has been announced for a June release:

鬼滅の刃 ノベライズ 〜炭治郎と禰豆子、運命のはじまり編〜 - 集英社みらい文庫

超人気コミック『鬼滅の刃』、 待望のまんがノベライズ第1弾！ 時は大正。 炭を売って暮らす心優しき少年・炭治郎

miraibunko.jp

贴吧404

tieba.baidu.com

It appears it will re-adapt the story with the author as supervisor, so there may be several of these in the future. He/she will also make several illustrations for it.

 

[Krono]

maybe someone already notice and this been discussed..
BattleBowl for newbie battle manga they all come in pair/duo.. as shown in their first (chapter) LCP:
Zipman (rip) = twins (one of them as suit)
Undead Unluck = well, undead and unluck
Guardian of the witch = guardian + witch
Bone collection = shaman + yokai
and even Burn the witch
thats 5 times in row..

did shueisha panic and start looking in their one shot library and take on that had a pair on it.. haha you know why.. or its just coincidence, shuesha with blindfold rolled the dice and got combo 5 straight times..??
nvm...

That's not particularly unusual. I'm sure giving the hero someone to persistently interact with from the start makes writing a lot of different types of stories much easier. So many stories would start with the hero and a brother/partner/sidekick/team/mentor/mascot, or the heroine. After all, if the story is going to revolve heavily around two lead characters, you might as well introduce them both from the very start.

 

[Serinox]

with the author as supervisor, so there may be several of these in the future. She will also make several illustrations

Gotouge's gender is not known.

 

[Koni]

Inb4 Kimetsu No Yaiba Ends, and Kimetsu No Yaiba Battle Tendency starts in a few weeks

In fact there's a rumor going on that there will be gaidens staring in fall, but they will be published on SQ.

A third KnY Light Novel has been announced for a June release:

鬼滅の刃 ノベライズ 〜炭治郎と禰豆子、運命のはじまり編〜 - 集英社みらい文庫

超人気コミック『鬼滅の刃』、 待望のまんがノベライズ第1弾！ 時は大正。 炭を売って暮らす心優しき少年・炭治郎

miraibunko.jp

贴吧404

tieba.baidu.com

It appears it will re-adapt the story with the author as supervisor, so there may be several of these in the future. He/she will also make several illustrations for it.

I just find this really funny. Not quite what people were expected, but it seems they're gonna be doing a lot with the franchise after it's done.

 

[yadayada]

I just find this really funny. Not quite what people were expected, but it seems they're gonna be doing a lot with the franchise after it's done.

It was inevitable. People only talk about the manga here but the two novels are individually respectively the #1 and #2 best selling LNs of the year by a huge margin with around 550k copies sold just in 2020, it's no wonder they'll make more, if anything I'm surprised it took this long for them to announce one. They'll probably make at the very least a bunch of spinoffs as well.

 

[pamuchi]

The two novels were released before and during the anime. Giyuu gaiden I think it was released after the first episode of the anime and the databook during half of the season.

The thing is, they were giving extra content to KnY way before its explosion. I think they were waiting for KnY manga to end and then start with what they had planned in advance.

 

[Thundercat27]

Sounds bloody ripe for a conspiracy theory of Nak & Co. trying to stop Kimetsu from toppling every one of OP's record except lifetime sales.

Wew. This place turns into InfoWars with every mentions of alleged conspiracies to sabotage KnY by Nak/Shueisha.

 

[Newkerzy]

Wew. This place turns into InfoWars with every mentions of alleged conspiracies to sabotage KnY by Nak/Shueisha.

Well, after the fuck-up that Jump made last year with OP's sales, can you blame me for being downright skeptical? It's not a secret among members here that Jump does have some interest in maintaining OP's top dog status. This, on top of Jump being so wildly random with their serializations.

Sure, they've always been this way, but it feels like they're just throwing darts and hope whatever sticks, even more so than past decades. An upside to this approach is that it's a good thing they're willing to experiment, but this ends up with the magazine having more misses than hits than in recent decades. Has there ever been a higher turnover than in recent years in Jump?

Anyway, bottom line, my opinion is that Jump's editorial department is has been wholly inconsistent and just plain badly managed. That is why they deserve any piece of skepticism coming their way.

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

Well, after the fuck-up that Jump made last year with OP's sales, can you blame me for being downright skeptical? It's not a secret among members here that Jump does have some interest in maintaining OP's top dog status. This, on top of Jump being so wildly random with their serializations.

Sure, they've always been this way, but it feels like they're just throwing darts and hope whatever sticks, even more so than past decades. An upside to this approach is that it's a good thing they're willing to experiment, but this ends up with the magazine having more misses than hits than in recent decades. Has there ever been a higher turnover than in recent years in Jump?

Anyway, bottom line, my opinion is that Jump's editorial department is has been wholly inconsistent and just plain badly managed. That is why they deserve any piece of skepticism coming their way.

Not really. It is still roughly the same it has always been. Jump serializes 11-14 series every year and only 2-4 last more than one year. That is how it has been since 1980s, that is what makes jump "jump".

Anyway, my brother saw me reading jk and now he is a big fan of it (or more accurately, big fan of the art). Please anime gods, allow the anime to happen. At least let us know the studio or director.