I think you underestimate quite how disliked S8 ended up by Japan.
That's kinda the most damning thing about Kishimoto's work for S8. For all the talk about his inspirations, he did nothing but make surface level transplanting without care. He drew from Star Wars liberally while forgetting that the original trilogy is so acclaimed because of its simplicity. He cited Seven Samurai, a work with a very cynical view of samurai, as a source of influence yet portrays samurai as gallant heroes. And now he admits that the main inspiration was a single two minute scene from AKIRA divorced from narrative and thematic context that's connection amounts to "cool existentialism". Literally everything is just him trying to replicate what he felt was cool in movies without any deeper thought.
But not surpising. Kishimoto pretty much wrote an entire autobiography in the extra pages of the Naruto volumes and he brought up Akira, both the manga and the film, so many times, always gushing about them, and even saying it was what made him want to become a mangaka (along with Dragon Ball). Although if I remember correctly he acknowledged that it only influenced his art in the end. I guess not anymore.
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I love youIn les than 24 hours:
-Third place in the toc and color page for next week
-Top 5 of most lucrative anime franchises for Tv Tokyo
-Almost all volumes + spinoff getting reprints
Good day for Black Clover, is clearly going to end in 1/2 years if keeps like that
Yes, one chapter with 24 pages.
It’s just a manga lol. Even if someone doesn’t like the manga or hates it, at the end of the day it’s just a manga series.
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Thank you these people act like he didn’t make one of the most influential series of all time. Look you don’t have to like Samaria 8 or Naruto (I personally am not a fan of it) but at least have some respect considering 80% of the series in jump right now are clearly influenced by kishimoto’s manga (naruto) in some way.
I fully respect Naruto as a work.
So you just gonna turn on the guy for 1 bad manga. This dude did not have to make it in the first place considering he worked week by week with barely any free time for 15 years. Everyone makes mistakes and that is what makes us human. Some of the best athletes, musicians, bookwriters, producers, and artist have made terribly stupid mistakes in there career in terms of there art because there human. You gotta respect the dude because not only without him we would not have a lot of legendary shonen manga this past decade but anime would not be as popular as it is today in the west without it because it is one of the biggest gateway anime of all time. Again I’m not a fan of naruto and I am definitely not a fan of samurai 8 but you still gotta respect this dude and that goes for any successful manga artist veteran and young.
Just Kishi? Not his editor, or all the suits who undoubtedly yes man'd all of his decisions?
Oh, they're complicit as well, but everything which contributed to S8's failure is ultimately Kishimoto's doing. Editorial isn't the one who said it be like "chewing on squid".
And why couldn't they have stopped him from writing that way? Isn't that the job of editors, to guide authors and make sure they're not going astray?
But why does writing a bad series warrant “losing respect” for him? There was nothing particularly offensive or in poor taste about it (racism, sexism, etc.)
I saw a list of Jump "クソ漫画" on some Japanese site and sure enough, our Squid was there.
I get it he is mostly to blame but why you always hating on older mangakas. No this is not me being like “ONe PiEce BeTTEr ThAn DEmOn SLaYer” type of people because I hate it when people blindly hate on new manga to. I get it new gen haters and salty one piece fans are annoying but that still don’t change the fact that the big 3 and dragon ball made anime popular in the west, caused shonen jump to go back to being the best selling yearly manga, and that all the newer artist look up to them and are clearly inspired by them. Again not saying you have to like the art but at least respect the authors for there contribution to the industry.
Just for reference, the only thing Taguchi (the editor) was involved in prior to S8 was Hell Warden Higuma.