Games Mafia Game 82 - Yu-Gi-Oh! - End Game

[Elusia]

And now, the moment you've all been waiting for.

First, the playerlist:

And the game actions:

Spoiler: Day and Night Actions

D1: N/A
N1:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> desin24 >>> success!

Priority 2
Demonspeed (Sane Det) >>> Holt >>> success! >>> innocent
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> Takuan >>> success! >>> guilty
MarmaladeSky (Investigator) >>> N/A
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Holt >>> success! >>> gets nothing
James Rye (Spirit Medium) >>> N/A
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> BD_Beno >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> BD_Beno >>> success! >>> Spy

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Holt >>> fails!
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> MarmaladeSky >>> success!

D2: N/A
N2:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> Holt >>> success!

Priority 2
Demonspeed (Sane Det) >>> Asako >>> success! >>> guilty (still dead tho. rip)
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> Demonspeed >>> success! >>> guilty
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Juviii >>> success! >>> targeted Holt
James Rye (Spirit Medium) >>> N/A
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> James Rye >>> success! (nice)
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> Juviii >>> success! >>> Prostitute

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Demonspeed >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> James Rye >>> fails!

D3: N/A
N3:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> GrySun >>> fails!

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> GrySun >>> success! >>> innocent!
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Belserion >>> success! >>> gets nothing
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> Seraph >>> Fails!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> MUIMadara >>> success! >>> Doctor

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> Seraph >>> success! (the power of the strongman for ya lol)
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> N/A

D4:
Evil3ye got lynched in D2. He comes back in D4. (welcome back!)
Holt uses Prosecutor role on DD. It fails as he died from the cowboy card (press F)

N4:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> N/A

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> MUIMadara >>> success! >>> guilty
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> GrySun >>> fails due to cointoss!
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> BD_Beno >>> success!
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> Evil3ye >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Juviii >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A

D5: N/A
N5:

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> desin24 >>> success! >>> innocent
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> BlackTiger >>> success!
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> digitaldude >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Takuan >>> success!

D6: N/A
N6:

Priority 2:
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Evil3ye >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A

D7: N/A
N7:

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Blacktiger >>> success! (congrats!)

In conclusion: lol mechanic.
If you guys want the Card and SC day/night actions, ask @uberfayt \o/
Thanks for playing!


Co-host thoughts coming soon!

 

[Copy Panda]

^^

Attack = Money

Fighto is righto

 

[Seraph]

Attack the best defense.

 

[digitaldude]

So evil 2 penalty votes, takuan 1 penalty vote and cant vote next day, copy panda one penalty vote, muimadara cant vote next day.

 

[uberfayt]

Are points/star chips/souls collected/mangoes harvested public knowledge? Will there be a scoreboard, do the hosts keep track/inform us daily or do we have to do it ourselves? 'When' are attacks executed? Can attacks be unsuccessful?

No they are not public knowledge. They'll be secret to players, but they can share them if they want. We the hosts will keep track, and we will update you through PM each night. Attacks can be executed any time during the day. And finally, yes, attacks can be unsuccessful if you get blocked by a trap card.

 

[Evil3ye]

Problem is, I believe it‘s much less likely for a townie to do lvl 3(or 2) right away. Say you hit a mafia, they got more friends to do the killing instead so it doesn‘t matter unless it‘s also a role like Escort. Hitting a TP is great but 1/18 chance. Much more likely you hit a town that‘s then blocked if he even has an action.

Taku bandwagoning isn‘t as bad unless he figured out it‘s better town behavior than blocking someone else. Think the level 1 is by far the best first pick in terms of odds and usefulness.

Here you go, answer to your shitty #63 post. Just because you don't agree and play different doesn't invalid my line of thinking, but if you want me to pull out a "justification" as you did in an "analytial matter", here you go. Your problem is, there are no valid targets in day 1. You can't trust anyone, no one has really made anything, mafia usually doesn't post must during days anyways, just lurks (looking at you @Demonspeed btw), so it does not fucking matter. Blocking a vote is much more harsh for the townie than blocking a night role - which he might not even have. So yeah Grysun, when you block a potential townie's vote it is more severe because he cannot even defend himself against tight mafia votes on following day, so you did some really mafia moves here by trying to cast level 1 attack.

 

[Takuan]

No I don't that's why I said what you did was a safe move for a scum, you're either getting blamed for the block if it's a good role and you're graining points
Greed lead people to their downfalls, you rushed to get the points before anyone else, I could say early on scum could want most of the point as townie will cooperate later on in game with each other with the blocks
If you were townie you should have left the attack alone when we have more info to use it wisely not rush to get the points and have no benefits for townies only with you gaining points

So let me get this straight. If you're a prostitute and after D1 you have no idea who is scum. Will you not use your role during the night?
Of course you would. In this game we have a mechanic, the goal is to use it, not just ignore it because we're clueless who to use it against.
And the rules stated only 3 attacks were allowed (before the rules were changed). So why would townies wait to get more ideas?

You're just not making any sense i'm sorry. I used the attack which had the least negative impact, which is far better than not having used it at all. There's absolutely nothing you can say that will convince me of the contrary.
You wanted only mafias to use the attacks D1 ? Alright then. At the end of the day, i'll have chips, you won't.
Like, i would agree with you if everyone could freely attack at any moment of the day, but that's not the case. We have a limited amount of attacks we can launch, the rules stated THREE. You're willing to wait and let mafias use every attack, that's on you, personally i want chips and i don't want to block an action, so i used an attack on Seraph. Prove to me that it was not pro-town.

 

[digitaldude]

Who will be the last man to attack seraph.

 

[Seraph]

If anything,i should get the final attack.

 

[Copy Panda]

All of the attacks are super OP, free and even generate chips that be used to do OTHER things.

 

[Evil3ye]

So evil 2 penalty votes, takuan 1 penalty vote and cant vote next day, copy panda one penalty vote, muimadara cant vote next day.

Is it possible you guys add this behind the attack count which level was used and therefore repercussions will follow?

 

[Juviii]

I didn't have the chance to say this before or I would miss the chance to attack but I'm happy with my avatar. They are all very cool.

Now about the game, why is everyone attacking Seraph? Takuan already explained I guess, but what about the others? And even so, attacking someone that already has 2 attacks is a bit odd in my eyes. However dwelling on that won't do us any good for now so it would be to the best interest of everyone to drop the mechanics for a bit and start focusing on the game itself.

 

[Copy Panda]

0 penalties is level 1, 1 penalty is level 2 and 2 penalties is level 3

 

[Aurelius]

The avis came out great, whoever made them thank you.

One notable exception, WHERE IS THE CHAZZ. Jesse Anderson and some astrologist over Chazz

Juviii and Marma got best girls, thought Asako would've gotten Rebecca

Demon got Bakura, I'm inclined to vote you right now.
Your true form

 

[Evil3ye]

0 penalties is level 1, 1 penalty is level 2 and 2 penalties is level 3

Yeah I know, but that it's added to the attack history.

 

[Aurelius]

The mechanic seems fun, but also puts an onus on getting things right starting day 1. Mafia could outnumber most of us 3-1, even 5-1 in SC by the start of the night phase. Cards gotta be played right

As I say this, 5 out of 6 attacks have been used, and probably for poops and giggles, but Seraph's already been reduced to Tristan status.
I get the level 2 attacks on Seraph as no one else is getting affected since he's already nerfed. On the other hand, one of those five could be mafia, and would potentially get 5 SC for a seemingly innocuous attack.

Edit: By 5 SC I mean, if a townie was lynched and votelock occured

That some long ass complicated rules.

Seems straightforward to me, Mai Valentine

 

[uberfayt]

The avis came out great, whoever made them thank you.

You welcome!

some astrologist

Not any astrologist...It's a very subtle freaking JOJO REFERENCE!!

Yeah I know, but that it's added to the attack history.

Done!

 

[Demonspeed]

The mechanic seems fun, but also puts an onus on getting things right starting day 1. Mafia could outnumber most of us 3-1, even 5-1 in SC by the start of the night phase. Cards gotta be played right

As I say this, 5 out of 6 attacks have been used, and probably for poops and giggles, but Seraph's already been reduced to Tristan status.
I get the level 2 attacks on Seraph as no one else is getting affected since he's already nerfed. On the other hand, one of those five could be mafia, and would potentially get 5 SC for a seemingly innocuous attack.

Edit: By 5 SC I mean, if a townie was lynched and votelock occured




Seems straightforward to me, Mai Valentine

You always want to start things right as early as possible, isn't it the case with you? The most common problem with games with mechanics is that Town gets too focused on them.

 

[GrySun]

Here you go, answer to your shitty #63 post. Just because you don't agree and play different doesn't invalid my line of thinking, but if you want me to pull out a "justification" as you did in an "analytial matter", here you go. Your problem is, there are no valid targets in day 1. You can't trust anyone, no one has really made anything, mafia usually doesn't post must during days anyways, just lurks (looking at you @Demonspeed btw), so it does not fucking matter. Blocking a vote is much more harsh for the townie than blocking a night role - which he might not even have. So yeah Grysun, when you block a potential townie's vote it is more severe because he cannot even defend himself against tight mafia votes on following day, so you did some really mafia moves here by trying to cast level 1 attack.

You wanted me to explain why I went for you, I did, now you say I‘m invalidating your line of thinking? When you never even put up a line of thinking in the first place other than you randomly blocking someone‘s avatar when they didn‘t even post. If there are no good targets early then don‘t do the attack early, or at least do the lvl 1 instead. And there can very well be good targets Day 1, a lot can come out just from people talking or in this system people attacking.

I don‘t get the greed for chips when we don‘t even know what the cards do.

Fully disagree on lvl 1 being more severe. They patched any downsides other than the lack of voting, which is strong but still not as much as the block gives info. Doesn‘t matter if he has a role or not, if you‘re town you‘re giving non-town more info on who to target at night.

So either way your selfish action is mafia at best and a very thoughtless town play at worst.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 3, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 3, 2020 ---

So let me get this straight. If you're a prostitute and after D1 you have no idea who is scum. Will you not use your role during the night?

Let me point out that this is a bad comparison. Lvl 2 and 3 blocks show publicly who is blocked. On a mafia it‘s useless as they can kill with someone else, meanwhile prostitute block can prevent a kill. The difference in the amount of information being given is pretty huge.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 3, 2020 ---

I didn't have the chance to say this before or I would miss the chance to attack but I'm happy with my avatar. They are all very cool.

Now about the game, why is everyone attacking Seraph? Takuan already explained I guess, but what about the others? And even so, attacking someone that already has 2 attacks is a bit odd in my eyes. However dwelling on that won't do us any good for now so it would be to the best interest of everyone to drop the mechanics for a bit and start focusing on the game itself.

What about you, why did you do it?

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 3, 2020 ---

For the record the reason I‘m not blasting Evil right away with my Dolphin is that blocking a scum would most likely do very little, and if he‘s town he‘d be made even more useless with the missed action. Meh.

 

[Demonspeed]

You wanted me to explain why I went for you, I did, now you say I‘m invalidating your line of thinking? When you never even put up a line of thinking in the first place other than you randomly blocking someone‘s avatar when they didn‘t even post. If there are no good targets early then don‘t do the attack early, or at least do the lvl 1 instead. And there can very well be good targets Day 1, a lot can come out just from people talking or in this system people attacking.

I don‘t get the greed for chips when we don‘t even know what the cards do.

Really? Maybe rushing to get chips isn't great but there are bound to be useful cards.

 

[Evil3ye]

You wanted me to explain why I went for you, I did, now you say I‘m invalidating your line of thinking? When you never even put up a line of thinking in the first place other than you randomly blocking someone‘s avatar when they didn‘t even post. If there are no good targets early then don‘t do the attack early, or at least do the lvl 1 instead. And there can very well be good targets Day 1, a lot can come out just from people talking or in this system people attacking.

I don‘t get the greed for chips when we don‘t even know what the cards do.

Fully disagree on lvl 1 being more severe. They patched any downsides other than the lack of voting, which is strong but still not as much as the block gives info. Doesn‘t matter if he has a role or not, if you‘re town you‘re giving non-town more info on who to target at night.

So either way your selfish action is mafia at best and a very thoughtless town play at worst.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 3, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 3, 2020 ---

Let me point out that this is a bad comparison. Lvl 2 and 3 blocks show publicly who is blocked. On a mafia it‘s useless as they can kill with someone else, meanwhile prostitute block can prevent a kill. The difference in the amount of information being given is pretty huge.

Again, that's just your opinion and doesn't make you more right. What makes your assessment yet again incorrect though, is having time to find a good day 1 target. When you have a 3 of 18 usage of possible attacks it's a split second run for chips.

You're so certain I am mafia, then you should maybe votelock. Or will you wait for day 2 to stack on my penality votes?