Games Mafia Game 82 - Yu-Gi-Oh! - End Game

[Elusia]

And now, the moment you've all been waiting for.

First, the playerlist:

And the game actions:

Spoiler: Day and Night Actions

D1: N/A
N1:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> desin24 >>> success!

Priority 2
Demonspeed (Sane Det) >>> Holt >>> success! >>> innocent
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> Takuan >>> success! >>> guilty
MarmaladeSky (Investigator) >>> N/A
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Holt >>> success! >>> gets nothing
James Rye (Spirit Medium) >>> N/A
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> BD_Beno >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> BD_Beno >>> success! >>> Spy

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Holt >>> fails!
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> MarmaladeSky >>> success!

D2: N/A
N2:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> Holt >>> success!

Priority 2
Demonspeed (Sane Det) >>> Asako >>> success! >>> guilty (still dead tho. rip)
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> Demonspeed >>> success! >>> guilty
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Juviii >>> success! >>> targeted Holt
James Rye (Spirit Medium) >>> N/A
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> James Rye >>> success! (nice)
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> Juviii >>> success! >>> Prostitute

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Demonspeed >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> James Rye >>> fails!

D3: N/A
N3:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> GrySun >>> fails!

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> GrySun >>> success! >>> innocent!
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Belserion >>> success! >>> gets nothing
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> Seraph >>> Fails!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> MUIMadara >>> success! >>> Doctor

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> Seraph >>> success! (the power of the strongman for ya lol)
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> N/A

D4:
Evil3ye got lynched in D2. He comes back in D4. (welcome back!)
Holt uses Prosecutor role on DD. It fails as he died from the cowboy card (press F)

N4:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> N/A

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> MUIMadara >>> success! >>> guilty
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> GrySun >>> fails due to cointoss!
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> BD_Beno >>> success!
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> Evil3ye >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Juviii >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A

D5: N/A
N5:

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> desin24 >>> success! >>> innocent
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> BlackTiger >>> success!
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> digitaldude >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Takuan >>> success!

D6: N/A
N6:

Priority 2:
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Evil3ye >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A

D7: N/A
N7:

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Blacktiger >>> success! (congrats!)

In conclusion: lol mechanic.
If you guys want the Card and SC day/night actions, ask @uberfayt \o/
Thanks for playing!


Co-host thoughts coming soon!

 

[James Rye]

Man and to think I wanted to play videogames for the past two hours. Glad I am still online to see all this activity and prevent Mafia from messing up my plans to get two towns confirmed. XD
Even if I had to adjust my plan due uber not being clear on his SC rules and thus needing to die to confirm Asako, as long as it solves this Me vs Asako mess it is worth it. Either Asako is who she said she is and we trade 2 SM for one cowboy or Asako lied but then she would never want to sacrifice herself as that would mean dying today AND losing her role which i might use tonight and if she would happen to be MD, ohohohohoh would that be a boon. XDDD
But like I said that is highly unlikely considering Asako is fine with my plan so far.^^
@Belserion When i die today meaning I cannot be confirmed tomorrow by Sera and Sera lives and managed to get the last RR card would you mind sacrificing your role to give Sera a one-night protection and become cowboy in my stead?
@Seraph You fine with confirming Bel tomorrow instead of me as I am going to die today?

 

[Seraph]

Do you not see what he‘s doing? He is distracting everyone with these talks and it‘s somehow working. Him talking about SC and cards for next phases has nothing to do with searching for mafia. He just wants to live another phase. He didn‘t even doubt Asako at all because he knows she‘s legit and he fucked up.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2020 ---

Wait did uber change some rules again? Was this game not thought out well in advance?

We will not learn anymore if a transfer was successful or not,nothing drastic imo.

 

[GrySun]

Rest assured the card does exactly what it says ^^

As for confirming whether bestowing has been successful or not, that's how I had it in mind. Yesterday I was super tired (irl BS) so I confused it with sacrificing, which I do confirm whether it was successful or not! Sorry about that (and for forgetting to write that SC is handed over at the end of the phase).

Nvm so not a rule change.

 

[Takuan]

@GrySun i just don't understand how you can say James is desperate to save himself, when for the last two phases he's been talking about being confirmed by Seraph, the most trustworthy player here. He's ok to sacrifice his role, ok to get Cowboy and risking losing a duel, ok to get lynched if that helps town.

Do you not see what he‘s doing? He is distracting everyone with these talks and it‘s somehow working. Him talking about SC and cards for next phases has nothing to do with searching for mafia. He just wants to live another phase. He didn‘t even doubt Asako at all because he knows she‘s legit and he fucked up.

Distracting from what? All of his talks aim to help town, unless you can prove otherwise. Holt and you only talk about how his talks are distracting, but you never proved how what he proposes is anti-town. It serves a purpose, clearing people, these talks are already more useful than everything else we've had for 3 phases. Plus, again, he agrees to get lynched today. If we don't lynch him, he either gets cleared tomorrow, or he doesn't and he gets lynched anyway. If he doesn't get cleared due to Seraph dieing, we lynch him. Why would you not even consider his plan, i'm not getting it.

By the way, from the looks of it i'm leaning towards using my role on either you or Holt.

 

[James Rye]

For several pages he's been agreeing about being lynched, if that helps clearing somebody before he dies. So yeah, no. He doesn't look desperate to save his skin.

Surviving as town is only useful is you are doc, spy and det or other important roles like prostitute. Town won't lose losing a SM like me. If town loses me confirming a townie 100% without any doubt then that is a win in my book for town!

If you die today then how are you going to gift those SC to me that you promised? You need to live 1 more day to bestow those to me. One time your plan sounds great and then it suddenly becomes worrisome because of some tripping man.

I can't, those 6 SCs are lost forever. Real shame but I didnt knew that SCs are only given at the end of the day by host pms, never got a pm from uber so far despite gaining 3 SC each day in the first two days. Juviii also tried to give you more than 1 SC but was also stopped by uber's rle correction. If I do survive though I will give you the 6 SC from today tomorrow. I am fine not being cowboy if this reward gives Bel the push to sacrifice her role to be 100% confirmed by you tomorrow.

 

[GrySun]

From the 7 no-claimers
desin
Juviii
Holt
BlackTiger
Gajeel
GrySun
Belserion
I trust Juviii and desin the most. Rest not really. I'd go for BT because of his "complicated" claim which is bonkers as most roles are pretty much straight-forward, the most complicated role would be SS due it adding secondary roles to the game and the "dead players" still being "active", writing posts and voting and doing actions. None of the townie roles is that complicated. I also don't trust gry because he never called for mass reveal this game and refuses to claim anything while after three days has only given us one broad hint. Same for Holt who usually is hardcore at work to confirm townies when he is townie, not so much this game.

As for us claimers, considering DD gave Sera a SC and with that a chance to buy RR tonight to confirm me I give him the benefit of doubt as Sera might get his total SC told tonight by uber meaning he knows if someone lied or not. Ofc he could still be a Mafia trying to superblend in with us but I think helping town to confirm two suspicious townies when Mafia could make one of them die today and the other tomorrow makes no sense as a Mafia. You would want this plan to fail horrible. Best with me dying not using my RR card and keep town from gathering 6 SCs to confirm sacrificial ready townies.
And ofc there is you given you sacrificed as doc on day 1 and used up a precious RR on day 2... BUT your actions helped us confirm HOW RR are used so not all is lost and your mistake feels honest and if Mafia wants to let a doc live potentially blocking their kills then all the more power to them. lol. Since we got no 3rd/4th doc reveal I tend to trust you. Same goes for Madara despite him letting Demon die I put that to his noob playstyle and he did give Sera a SC for which we actually do have the word of god confirmation. Beno is safe spy except he is the Mafia pirate who stole the Spy role and if so then said Spy would have done an Asako by now and come out with a "LIAR! I AM THE REAL SPY!". XD
And Asako I believe because she came out after me and is ready to follow my plan and sacrifice her role. A Mafia wouldn't do that. I think we might already have a very tight townie group with at worst one Mafia in it. As long as we get the Mafias in the no-claimer section we are good to go win the match for town once we use the two rrs to confirm both me and Asako.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2020 ---

No problem. I have my own game up in July so I might have the same problem then with my game mechanic. Just means I have to hammer with Asako on every rule detail to ensure we don't overlook anything. Maybe even ask a host who won't play this game if he gives it an overview to check for any gaps and loopholes. I think it is really cool to see all those cards and how often they were already put to use.^^

Finally a relevant post for a Mafia Game. Why do you trust Juviii and desin? It really looks to me like Juviii is scared. Beno caught her targetting Holt N2, she confirmed(ofc she will, she has to). But hasn‘t said with what or N1 target. Trying to think of a role to claim that‘s active and that she would use on Holt and another person? I won‘t believe her claiming Det.

Desin hasn‘t done much at all. Last I remember about him he voted Evil to prevent a Det lynch which is town behavior, but most of the rest of what he was doing is rather distant.

Can you answer an older post of mine and say why there would be 2 SMs in a 1-killing party game?

 

[James Rye]

You‘re grasping for straws so badly. You can notice it by how you only talk about the system, cards and SC.

Not true.
I also talked about who I trust and who I don't.
For today I will generally trust all role claimers, meaning also bel as for now with 2 RR cards sacrificing roles means death for Mafia, whereas I distrust all role-hinters/claim-refusers thus voting for one of the 6 today, not desin, trust desin, so 5. Most likely BT due his complicated role claim which I think is bonkers as first hint on his role after 3 days.

Do you not see what he‘s doing? He is distracting everyone with these talks and it‘s somehow working. Him talking about SC and cards for next phases has nothing to do with searching for mafia. He just wants to live another phase. He didn‘t even doubt Asako at all because he knows she‘s legit and he fucked up.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2020 ---

Wait did uber change some rules again? Was this game not thought out well in advance?

Yes, he changed rules or better said "clarified" them. It happens. Sucks it happened on day 3 after my sacrifice but it is what it is and as long as two townies get confirmed, don't need to be me with Bel and Asako being there as options, it is still a good plan for town to get two people they otherwise would have a hard time confirming themselves get confirming via sacrifice and RR.
Though I do have to die for Asako to be proven but that is okay.

 

[Seraph]

Not to mention,both Gry and Holt refuse to give more or anything at all to their roles. Its D3 already,Gry is still alive,he should know better and just give us anything about his role since Town Gry's days are numbered by default. Secrecy isn't doing Holt much favor either if he is legit since the more he plays it safe the more likely he is to be felled at night for it.

 

[digitaldude]

Why seraph needs more than 6sc dont get it james.

 

[Seraph]

Desin won't claim anything either...honestly guys,if you don't start cooperating today then when will you? This ain't how it works.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2020 ---

If everything that i saw today in terms of transfers worked + my own Attacks and Vote/s. Then i should already have enough to buy a Pot of Memes or the Monster Reborn Card already. If not both even.

 

[Holt]

Desin won't claim anything either...honestly guys,if you don't start cooperating today then when will you? This ain't how it works.

Tell Juvii to speak up for starters. The only thing we got from her was targeting me on N2 and that wasn't even from her...

 

[digitaldude]

Desin won't claim anything either...honestly guys,if you don't start cooperating today then when will you? This ain't how it works.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2020 ---

If everything that i saw today in terms of transfers worked + my own Attacks and Vote/s. Then i should already have enough to buy a Pot of Memes or the Monster Reborn Card already. If not both even.

So you will buy monster reborn tonight?

 

[Seraph]

Tell Juvii to speak up for starters. The only thing we got from her was targeting me on N2 and that wasn't even from her...

I answered one of her questions earlier and am waiting on a response to that right now already,she isn't cleared for me,her N1 target is very important too for me.

@uberfayt Can Taku only use his Bodyguard Card on himself or could he place it "under" someone else? Out of curiousity.

 

[Holt]

Not to mention,both Gry and Holt refuse to give more or anything at all to their roles. Its D3 already,Gry is still alive,he should know better and just give us anything about his role since Town Gry's days are numbered by default. Secrecy isn't doing Holt much favor either if he is legit since the more he plays it safe the more likely he is to be felled at night for it.

I'm not really being secretive. I'm legit tho, and I'm well aware this isn't winning my favors. That's not my primary concern anyway

 

[GrySun]

Asako are you serious right now? You claim that it's impossible to fake Apprentice>Spy when the Mafia could have a Mafia Det. on their side that simply told them of Beno's role? Yeah sure. For all we know DD is a Mafia Apprentice and he spend 2 Nights learning to become a Bomb,Strongman or literally anything else. There is nothing hard about saying "I learned from him for 2 Nights to become Spy" when i learned that he is Spy like 1,2 Nights ago. Seriously...

@Juviii You asked who i trust more between James and Asako here^,if i'm honest,both sides have a fair amount of BS to their names in this game. James who just acknowledges that there could be 2 SMs simply because we had doubles of other roles before but keeps planning to make a clean confirmation play of which we still don't know if it'll work out because...well...what if i die tonight? If one of the Doc's protects me then they will have to make a Strongman Play to murder me. But what then? Starchips gone,Card/s gone. All gone.

Then there is Asako,constantly carefree and just trying to throw shade and hate at any plan/s we craft which definitely screams "cooperative Townie" to me(Sarcasm Level over 9000 here). Does nothing to appear more trustworthy,came in,called James a liar,and since then did nothing. In other words,the same she has been doing all game. Apart from shielding Black Tiger who is also not trustworthy so far...honestly if i could i'd kill both and just get my peace at mind but one of them is bound to be legit while DD is out there with his convenient claim...I really don't know what to do.

@Belserion So you were BP again after all huh? Nice.

I thought so too, but remember last game? How does he plan to fake Spy? Did @digitaldude and @BD_Beno talk about who they plan to target? You should know Herr Spyraph(paying you back all the passive agressiveness) that he either drags his teammates into the dirt with him or he gets exposed. Beno isn‘t paranoid so dd can‘t learn a different sanity. He‘s screwed if he‘s lying, and we have plenty of active roles that can say who they targetted after dd has done so.

 

[digitaldude]

I answered one of her questions earlier and am waiting on a response to that right now already,she isn't cleared for me,her N1 target is very important too for me.

@uberfayt Can Taku only use his Bodyguard Card on himself or could he place it "under" someone else? Out of curiousity.

Its for his use only.

 

[uberfayt]

@uberfayt Can Taku only use his Bodyguard Card on himself or could he place it "under" someone else? Out of curiousity.

only on himself.

 

[Seraph]

So you will buy monster reborn tonight?

Depends on who get's lynched today and what he/she flips as. If i was being strung along by a Mafia all this time then i will honestly reconsider playing by any plan suggested.

 

[GrySun]

Also, Asako would have 0 reason to contest James‘ claim unless they investigated him with M. Det and know he‘s lying and Santa or something. But if not and he drops SM she‘ll have sacrificed herself for nothing. Hence James is full of crap. Or a Santa/SS, he sounds as if the game will end if he dies.

 

[Holt]

Juvii hasn't left me ever since I called out her D1 attack on MUI. Later on she was complaining about how my hint made no sense. She's voted me both days, went after me last night. Still super interested in my role or "why I didn't claim passive"