Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

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Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Stivie]

I partly agree, I could see Magu-chan going in the direction of slice of life. I really liked this first chapter, thought it was cute. Though I do think it is a pretty similar premise to Moriking, with the alien-creature trying to live with a human, depending on the next few chapters it might not be as much of an episodic gag as Moriking is which would allow it to differentiate itself.

I have to say, Mashle has been consistently improving for me, and the art in this chapter was great, especially compared to the first chapters. Finally Mash has a real competitor - I've been enjoying the serious moments lately and I'm truly hyped for some of the future fights.

Moriking has been very no sense since the first chapter. Magu-chan is much more restrained, I personally don't know if he will have a place in the magazine seeing that moriking looks good.
But now that only Yonagi as the female protagonist in the jump (and I will not consider Ayakashi triangle), he may be able to get his space.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Very good Yozakura and Black Clover chapters this week.

Magu-chan chapter 1 was ok for me. Not bad but...ok.

I've found Undead Unluck meh this week tbh.

My ranking this week would be:

1. Haikyuu
2. Mashle
3. Chainsawman
4. Black Clover
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
6. Act-age
7. Mission of Yozakura Family
8. One Piece
9. Time Paradox Ghostwriter
10. Moriking
11. Ayakashi Triangle
12. Agravity Boys
13. Dr.Stone
14. Magu-chan
15. UndeadxUnluck
16. We Never Learn
17. Mitama
18. Bone's Collection
19. Guardian of the Axed
Absent. My Hero Academia

 

[Halloween]

So, after reading the second chapter of Ayakashi Triangle, I can already tell this series isn't for me.

It seems the "story" is just used as a vehicle to showcase titillation. And that's fine, if that's what you're interested in.

But I'd rather the story be the driving force instead, with ecchi/fanservice sprinkled in as an added bonus.

 

[Jorden Rivera]

Magu-chan- I liked this a lot more than I was expecting to. This seems like a good series if you need a cool down from the more intense chapters in other manga.

TPGW- I really like Aino. Teppei is fine, but his self-deprecating gets old really fast. Every other line is "my manga isn't as good as hers", "her art was better than mine", "my manga isn't as successful as hers was" and it's really irritating. I understand that this is what a person would probably do in this scenario, but I just don't like it. I am interested in the implications behind the ending though.

Mashle- We might have our first actually challenge in the series. That's more than enough to be a good chapter, but it also had some good comedy with the whole talking underwater thing.

UxU- This was a cool down chapter after the craziness last time. I think it did it's job well. I really like the comedy, particularly the bits that involve the unluck ability.

AT- This chapter was okay. I'm assuming we're just going to follow the "Monster of the Week" formula for a while.

GOTW- Oh this hurt to watch. I don't really have much to say that isn't obvious. Goodbye, I hope this artist gets something, because I really like the art of this series. I just wish that the story and characters were better.

AA- This might be one of my favorite chapters in a while. I really like the rivalry that's building between Tamaki and Yonagi. Tamaki, in general, just seems like an interesting character and she gets me hyped for the rest of this arc.

JJK- This was probably the first "okay" chapter JJK has had in a while. It wasn't bad, but nothing about it was particularly exciting (mainly cause there's no way those characters are done, no spoilers). I will say that the ending makes me hyped for the next chapter though.

Black Clover- This was good, I think. It was way too short, but it had my attention. The ending of the chapter is a bit weird because it's not really a mystery what's gonna happen next chapter.

All in all, decent week for manga (at least from the stuff I read). Nothing was amazing, but I don't think anything was really bad either.

Edit: I'll also add that Jigokuraku had an amazing chapter, that focused on two of the best characters in the series. Great chapter

EDIT2: I somehow forgot Chainsaw Man, which is insane because this was great. I'm a little disappointed in myself. Chainsaw Man is about to get into some more craziness.

 

[Blink22]

Magu-chan wasn’t a gag but more slice of life. The stilted art is reminiscent of late 90’s to early 20’s series. It didn’t feel like I was reading a Jump series but more of a Sunday or Champion title. I absolutely enjoyed it regardless. Instantly, I think this is going to be my favorite of the batch even with Yabuki and Tamura returning.

There is a melancholic vibe that I can see it eventually going into battle monster territory. The series can go in all sorts of directions.

Meanwhile, Time Paradox has its best chapter since the first one and it seems we’re going to get into the meat of the actual plot. This could be a what if scenario where the entire manga industry can change.

 

[FireFantasyVI]

Yozakura was fine this week, glad to see one of the siblings getting time and not some random new character. Humor was not landing for me however

Mitama was good, wrapped up this arc a little faster than I thought it would though, but not in a bad way.

Agravity was good, it had some good jokes and I liked the Chris and Saga dynamic

Undead was alright, felt like it started to veer back into harassment territory but not as bad as the first few chapters. Otherwise the rest of the chapter was good

Mashle was great, the bit with the shark was funny and I finally felt some suspense in the series. I loved the art for the close up on the bad guy's mask, it felt like a painting, as well as the next page

Guardian is finally over, and it felt like it was whatever the author had planned from the start, just condensed into the last chapter. Everyone is happy and all the problems are solved, but without any buildup (seeing as it got axed and all). It's funny to think that a series that had monsters as such as key part of it's world barely had them appear in the story at all. Overall, I found it pretty boring, but not really bad either. However stuff like the first monster they fought getting off-screened and the weird Attack on Titan finger bite will be pretty funny to me

Moriking was great, I loved the bits with how Moriking spends his time

Bone was alright, I liked the stuff with Shutendoji, but I'm not a fan of the exorcist in the robot.

Ghost Writer was fine, feeling kinda mixed on it. I feel like a lot happened this chapter that could've gotten chapters to itself, but the twist at the end gives me hope that something will happen. The chapter really made Teppei feel like a martyr, for better or for worse

Ayakishi was alright, feel about the same as I did with the first chapter. It's executed well enough but it's not really interesting

Magu-Chan was great, loved the jokes and I can see the dynamic between Magu and Ruru growing on me.

HQ, CSM, JJK, and AA were all great this week as well

 

[James Rye]

Magu-chan: I like this and I want a plushie of Magu-chan. First chapter gave me quite a couple chuckles and I am curious to see where this will keep going from then. One thing is for sure though this will not be the last "god of something" we will see in this series.^^

Haikyu!: HE NEVER KNEELS!!!

OP: *That ending*....okay, what? Who is that? Why is he there? Where does he come from? What is going on? I am starting to seriously lose oversight over this arc...

AT: Nice short fanservice, same to the action, seems the relationship between the two main girls will be most focused on. Glad they could deepen it though they needed a little push for that. I also like Lu and Yayo because they got great taste in girls.^^

Dr.Stone: Nobody can hate icecream.

BoneC: I liked it, it was sweet.

JjK: That old man's power really is particular and cool. Also the ending is even nastier than Souma's worst cooking, ewwww~~~ Next chapter gonna be a bang!

TPG: Man, Aino just flat out amazing. Girl is insane. Not only with her hard-work and talent but also her attitude, I would have been frustrated as hell in her shoes. Still wish he had told her the truth. Also Teppei is fuuuuuuuuuuuucked, how is he gonna get outta that situation? No way he can deal with this without help.

UU: I really really really liked the Cover, not for its pic but for its content; it felt a lot like a SCP addendum after a SCP mission with the whole memory wiped, data redacted and such. Interesting, seems the city is way smaller than in our original world, the beaches were also pretty empty. How many humans are actually living in this world? Poor Izumo having to jump over her shadow for the sake of the mission, she's looking real good though, like the long hair. Lol about Juiz asking her to fall in love with Andy, her explanation for it makes sense though. Izumo could be an unexpected Ace. Tatiana is such a shipper, lol. Seems Victhor is the correct form of Victor and also seems like Andy was really rattled by his appearance and what this means for himself as a person. This certainly will be a major story plot-line for sure. I liked the "dark side" of the world building. With UMAs and Negators it makes sense though that the Underworld would be involved in some way though. (also first time we saw Void as a human, Clothy MVP!)

WNL: What did she put in there? Glass shards?

Moriking: Poor sis, poor pretty cockroach boy. Why do I have a feeling like Moriking was behind that missing item?^^

Mashle: Wait, what? There are more of Mashle's type?

Mitama: Still no idea if this is on its last ropes or if we will still be talking about Mitama chapters in three years.

CSM: DAMN! I KNEW IT! Aki is so fucked! Poor Angel... ;A;

AA: Lol, Kei got so rattled she made such a rookies mistake. XD
She gotta be careful though that plan of her director could also work for the girl playing her so she has to watch her back this time.

BC: not reading

AB: Are those two... the perfect couple on WSJ? I bet a certain shark was jumping around like a dolphin on crack after this chapter. XDDD

GotW: Damn! What a jarring time-jump! Well, it resolved its story and that's it.

Yozakura: There is a certain room that needs burning and I ain't talking about Kengo's... <.<

 

[Koni]

Other notes for this week:
WNL: Personally, I think that this is the best We Never Learn route so far. And that's all for simply focusing entirely on a central issue Fumino has while also showing genuine chemistry between her and Yuiga. Then again, I'm biased. We'll probably stay on this charade until the end of the arc, which would be disappointing, but still better than the other two routes. Though, to be completely honest, i feel that this multiple routes thing would work on better series, like Quintuplets, or Dosanko Gyaru.
GOTW: At least it had a happy ending, or something. Thought that it wouldn't hurt skim through this since I knew it was finishing up. Looked nice, though I'll wait till I reread this before I make my full thoughts. I at least want to mention this series since I don't really think many else will. Why is it that most of the series I get hyped up for end up becoming total duds...
AT: Speaking of, I feel like I'm the only one who likes this series so far, and I find that a bit of a shame. Then again, maybe I'm too optimistic. I actually want to like this, so I'm giving it a volume's worth of chapters to convince me. Really hoping that I can predict something good here...
Magu: Gonna give this a 6.5 for now. Magu himself is great. Everything else needs work, but it can get there.

Looking forward to after the PVs for the new three series release to get a glimpse of the Japanese reception.

 

[WyldViolet]

1. Chainsaw Man

2. Mitama: Secureity Busters

3. Mashle

4. Time Paradox Ghost Writer

5. Undead x Unluck (despite some things that are super problematic this chapter that I'm not going to get into)

6. Dragon Ball Super

7. Dr Stone


8. Boruto

9. Jujutsu Kaisen

10. Black Clover


11. One Piece

12. Moriking

13. Bone Collection

14. Agravity Boys

15. Yozakura Family

16. Ayakashi Triangle

17. Magu: God of Destruction

18. Guardian of the Witch

 

[Ryuusei]

Magu-chan had a nice start, it was wholesome and funny and the art wasn't bad. This has some potential behind it and Magu-chan is adorable. I already like it more than many of the other rookies we've had for the past year. Looking forward to where this gors. This chapter of Undead Unluck took a turn I am not very pleased with to be honest. Ayakashi was just... boring? Nothing happened, nothing was set up, it was more episodic than a continuation of the story and it's all for the sake of fanservice.

Black Clover with all the strong opponet appears > villain gets the upper hand > hero gets back and wins has been repeated at least 4 or 5 times in this recent arc (and will definitely happen more) and my investment in the series keeps decreasing. For the love of god, don't do anything to Aki, I'm begging you Fujimoto. I feel like this will be a big turning point for Makima and I don't know if I'm ready for that. Jujutsu's chapter wasn't interesting on its own but it's setting up some stuff that will be big. Jump feels empty without a My Hero Academia since it has had some of th best chapters in a while now.

 

[Ctkk]

First people were comparing Ayakashi triangle to Bone Collection. Now it's Magu-chan to Moriking. Is the next one gonna belike Ghost Writer?

 

[SharkBait]

Agravity Boys is the most cutest story in jump in years, like, boys blushing and domestic fluff, awwww, how can one not like chris and saga.

Gris so jealous.

 

[Aipom626]

This week's top 5:
1. Mitama Security - Hilarious chapter, Rena really killed it this chapter with her reaction over Mitama. Glad to see her friend again too.
2. Act-Age - Really great chapter this week. Glad to see we'll be getting more screentime for some of the characters from last arc.
3. Undead Unluck - Fuuko is such a good character, and Andy is fun to see as well. The part with Clothy had me laughing pretty hard.
4. Magu-chan: God of Destruction - I really liked the first chapter of Invade You 2 this newbie. A bit different from the oneshot, but I think it makes sense for the purpose of working it into a series. I'm looking forward to this if it keeps up the SOL vibe it has going. Seems like a Moriking competitor.
5. Chainsaw Man - I half was, half wasn't expecting that development. So glad that confusing battle's over and the series is coherent again.

The best of the rest:
6. Ayakashi Triangle - Amazing art, and I'm pretty interested to see what kinds of yokai we'll get to see in the upcoming chapters.
7. Mission: Yozakura Family - Funny chapter. I'm glad to see Mutsumi taking a more prominent role in recent chapters. Hopefully that keeps happening.
8. Moriking - Pretty funny chapter. The cockroach is a nice character, and the world/plot is developing pretty nicely for a gag series.
9. Mashle - Pretty good chapter, but I wish the fight at the beginning would've been a bit longer. That one page though.... super awesome design.
10. We Never Learn - Another kind of eh chapter. It feels like something we've already seen before more so than the other 2 arcs did.
11. Bone Collection - Best chapter of the series so far, but the art still kills it for me. The last page was pretty funny though.
12. Time Paradox Ghostwriter - Is Aino enough to keep me reading this? Still hate the MC, the plot is somehow strangely dull, but the assistants are fun to see.
13. Agravity Boys - I will say that the series is better without Geralt and Baba. It'd be even better without the leader of the other ship too.

 

[OtterBrigade]

I felt Magu went on a little too long. Hopefully the next couple chapters will be more enjoyable as they're shorter.

 

[Thehoennhippo]

Well that's Guardian of the Witch over, wouldn't be opposed to Sakano coming back with a more polished series down the line. After today's chapter Mitama doesn't feel like it's ending? I have no idea what to think, because none of the other series feel like they're wrapping up either, it'll be an interesting toc next time. I like Ayakashi Triangle's characters a lot, don't mind the monster of the week formula at all. Magu-chan feels like a Sunday series, which is nice but I don't know what it's chances will be here in Jump. Also Viz's site said chapters are coming in 5 days, Friday issue this week?

 

[animeexpert]

Magu chan is really average. That's all I have for that manga

 

[yadayada]

Magu-chan was pretty comfy, I liked it.

Sorry to say but I think Witch was the worst axebait I've read in a long time, have nothing to say about it other than good riddance.

 

[Koni]

This week's top 5:
1. Mitama Security - Hilarious chapter, Rena really killed it this chapter with her reaction over Mitama. Glad to see her friend again too.
2. Act-Age - Really great chapter this week. Glad to see we'll be getting more screentime for some of the characters from last arc.
3. Undead Unluck - Fuuko is such a good character, and Andy is fun to see as well. The part with Clothy had me laughing pretty hard.
4. Magu-chan: God of Destruction - I really liked the first chapter of Invade You 2 this newbie. A bit different from the oneshot, but I think it makes sense for the purpose of working it into a series. I'm looking forward to this if it keeps up the SOL vibe it has going. Seems like a Moriking competitor.
5. Chainsaw Man - I half was, half wasn't expecting that development. So glad that confusing battle's over and the series is coherent again.

The best of the rest:
6. Ayakashi Triangle - Amazing art, and I'm pretty interested to see what kinds of yokai we'll get to see in the upcoming chapters.
7. Mission: Yozakura Family - Funny chapter. I'm glad to see Mutsumi taking a more prominent role in recent chapters. Hopefully that keeps happening.
8. Moriking - Pretty funny chapter. The cockroach is a nice character, and the world/plot is developing pretty nicely for a gag series.
9. Mashle - Pretty good chapter, but I wish the fight at the beginning would've been a bit longer. That one page though.... super awesome design.
10. We Never Learn - Another kind of eh chapter. It feels like something we've already seen before more so than the other 2 arcs did.
11. Bone Collection - Best chapter of the series so far, but the art still kills it for me. The last page was pretty funny though.
12. Time Paradox Ghostwriter - Is Aino enough to keep me reading this? Still hate the MC, the plot is somehow strangely dull, but the assistants are fun to see.
13. Agravity Boys - I will say that the series is better without Geralt and Baba. It'd be even better without the leader of the other ship too.

4. Magu-Chan is already better than Invade You ever fucking was. XD God, that series fucking sucked.

Well that's Guardian of the Witch over, wouldn't be opposed to Sakano coming back with a more polished series down the line. After today's chapter Mitama doesn't feel like it's ending? I have no idea what to think, because none of the other series feel like they're wrapping up either, it'll be an interesting toc next time. I like Ayakashi Triangle's characters a lot, don't mind the monster of the week formula at all. Magu-chan feels like a Sunday series, which is nice but I don't know what it's chances will be here in Jump. Also Viz's site said chapters are coming in 5 days, Friday issue this week?

I think your enjoyment of AT hinges on its characters. I think the manga’s more character focused at the moment, and a monster of the week style suits it. It’s a good decision, IMO, as unless a future plot is REALLY interesting (if it develops one) I won’t care if I don’t care about the characters. I like the characters here for now, and I honestly don’t think there’s much fanservice, Yabuki just draws really attractive characters.

 

[Halloween]

Everyone, please stop name-dropping other users in here. Posts in this thread need to be about WSJ and the ToC, not about MH users.

 

[Thaed]

Well the end of Guardian of the Witch was kinda meh like most of it !
Ayakashi Triangle has great art, but I'm not that much into the story for now.
Magu-chan was quite funny bu that's it. I'm waiting to see more of it to have a proper opinion.
Time Paradox Ghostwriter has a surprising plot twist. We'll see where it goes from now on.
Moriking is also quite the surprise to me, I'm really enjoying it !

And Mashle is still really good, can't get enough of it !