Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

What about Black Cat? Minimal amount of fanservice. No more than any other Jump battle manga.
You guys are putting Yabuki in this box based off of two manga he didn't even write.
Honestly I'm not sure if Ayakashi Triangle is my cup of tea based on the first two chapters. However even those two chapters had minimal amounts of ecchi for what you'd expect a series with this premise to have.
Perhaps Yabuki isn't as focused on fanservice as the people in this thread (who probably haven't even read one of his series) making him out to be.

Literally everything that he did in his career excluding Black Cat and his first failed series has ecchi on it, and Ayakashi already has plenty of ecchi in 2 chapters, it's his thing and it's what the vast majority connects his name to.

 

[WyldViolet]

Literally everything that he did in his career excluding Black Cat and his first failed series has ecchi on it, and Ayakashi already has plenty of ecchi in 2 chapters, it's his thing and it's what the vast majority connects his name to.

But they're connecting it based on a franchise he wasn't the writer for.
If we look at his works he actually wrote they are clearly much lighter on fanservice.
Feels like people are perpetuating a possibly false narrative that results in people having an incorrect perception of what Yabuki can and/or likes to do.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

But they're connecting it based on a franchise he wasn't the writer for.
If we look at his works he actually wrote they are clearly much lighter on fanservice.
Feels like people are perpetuating a possibly false narrative that results in people having an incorrect perception of what Yabuki can and/or likes to do.

It wasnt just To Love-ru but series like Mayoi Neko Overrun, Hatena Illusion and Darling in the Franxx, not to mention his one shots, he's the one the built most of his career in the ecchi genre, he wouldn't do that if wasn't what he likes.

I don't see people saying that it should expect Ayakashi to be just and only ecchi, i don't think it will be the case, what most are saying is about comments like "ohh unnecesary panty shot, i don't like it" in a manga that it's clearly going to rely on ecchi and you should expect it because it's a trademark of the author.

 

[Ravellino]

It wasnt just To Love-ru but series like Mayoi Neko Overrun, Hatena Illusion and Darling in the Franxx, not to mention his one shots, he's the one the built most of his career in the ecchi genre, he wouldn't do that if wasn't what he likes.

I don't see people saying that it should expect Ayakashi to be just and only ecchi, i don't think it will be the case, what most are saying is about comments like "ohh unnecesary panty shot, i don't like it" in a manga that it's clearly going to rely on ecchi and you should expect it because it's a trademark of the author.

and i don't think a guy who draws a ecchi manga like to love ru for 10 years don't like to draw that kind of thing

 

[tirakai]

Yabuki might have done Black Cat but that finished 16 years ago, and was his first hit. The artist has spent the past decade and a half drawing a bunch of successful ecchi manga, he's not going to suddenly stop just because he's writing again. It's his thing at this point and has been for a long time.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 24, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 24, 2020 ---

Also honestly, do people think Ayakashi Triangle's first 2 chapters would stand out on the story's own merits without fanservice and Yabuki's name behind it? It's a completely by-the-books episodic exorcist series intro with action that's just splash pages of attacks.

Bone Collection introduced it's premise better, has a more unique twist, and gave more personality and a bigger focus on building the dynamic to its main characters in the first 2 chapters than Triangle did, and neither of the two showed any good fighting. The only thing Triangle has going for it above Bone's intro is the art, and Yabuki's strongest talent art-wise is his ecchi scenes.

 

[Aeneas]

Magu-chan was a little clunky (especially the exposition around the parents) and repetitive, but decent and charming overall. Curious to see what it can do in the next 5 chapters. If it can keep things fresh with the main two's interaction and handle the spoilered bit well, I'll enjoy it.

I should have said that a long time ago.

read a Yabuki manga without an ecchi you know, it's like going to read a Shun Saeki manga without an ecchi, an Oku Hiroya manga without some bizarre or a Togashi manga without a hiatus.

Last one doesn't really work, but I imagine the urge was too strong.

 

[Koni]

So, are we going to get the table of contents and cover/color pages tonight?

 

[Ryuusei]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 6/22

#57 Jujutsu Kaisen 11
#71 Chainsaw Man 7
#93 Jigokuraku 10
#140 We Never Learn 17
#257 Mashle 1
#357 Ao no Flag 8
#365 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 22
#474 Undead Unluck 2

 

[Minsel]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 6/22

#57 Jujutsu Kaisen 11
#71 Chainsaw Man 7
#93 Jigokuraku 10
#140 We Never Learn 17
#257 Mashle 1
#357 Ao no Flag 8
#365 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 22
#474 Undead Unluck 2

MASHLE above Yuuna for the 4th time in a row... Damn

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Kind of funny how everytime it gets updated, Yozakura and UU keep switching positions, like one time one is above the other, then another time its the opposite, and one time one gets out, and another time the other one gets out lol

 

[Minsel]

Kind of funny how everytime it gets updated, Yozakura and UU keep switching positions, like one time one is above the other, then another time its the opposite, and one time one gets out, and another time the other one gets out lol

trading the balance of power

 

[101nemesis]

Just because Yabuki's sense for ecchi got him opportunities to do art for ecchi manga doesn't mean that's his actual desire for a series he writes.

Pretty sure he's more aware than anyone that people expect some fanservice from him, which is probably why Ayakashi Triangle had some fanservice sprinkled all around the chapters here and there.

But for someone who is behind one of most well known ecchi manga of the last generation (TLR, even if it was just the art - doubt people cared about the story), the amount of ecchi in this new series is very minimal especially for the important early chapters which is pivotal to grab the readers' attention. That tells you his intention for the direction with this series.

So maybe y'all wanna stop hoping for many ecchi moments from this one. I'm assuming the most you'll get are a couple of panels a chapter at best.

 

[Ryuusei]

Sales by Series - 6/15~6/21

cr.少年jump吧

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba - 960,575
#5 The Promised Neverland - 100,722
#6 Spy x Family - 98,285
#8 Jujutsu Kaisen - 80,937
#9 Haikyuu!! - 71,163

Kimetsu no Yaiba's 2020 sales: 52,670,026

 

[Newkerzy]

Just because Yabuki's sense for ecchi got him opportunities to do art for ecchi manga doesn't mean that's his actual desire for a series he writes.

Pretty sure he's more aware than anyone that people expect some fanservice from him, which is probably why Ayakashi Triangle harem had some fanservice sprinkled all around the chapters here and there.

But for someone who is behind one of most well known ecchi manga of the last generation (TLR, even if it was just the art - doubt people cared about the story), the amount of ecchi in this new series is very minimal especially for the important early chapters which is pivotal to grab the readers' attention. That tells you his intention for the direction with this series.

So maybe y'all wanna stop hoping for many ecchi moments from this one. I'm assuming the most you'll get are a couple of panels a chapter at best.

Kinda thinking that this will end up like the Negima! situation where Akamatsu was forced to do a harem manga before he turned it into a full-on battle manga per his original intentions, which I’m hoping. The key will be how Yabuki handles the overarching plot.

I see that KanoKari is rising in sales, wonder if the anime will give it a Gotoubun boost. The art didn’t impress me at first, but the anime seems to have taken it up several notches.

 

[lazybones1717]

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba - 960,575
#5 The Promised Neverland - 100,722
#6 Spy x Family - 98,285
#8 Jujutsu Kaisen - 80,937
#9 Haikyuu!! - 71,163

Kimetsu no Yaiba's 2020 sales: 52,670,026

Nice to see that The Promised Neverland got a slight boost in backlog sales after ending. I wonder if Volume 19 will be able to recover some of the readers that fell off now that the series is finished. 2021 will be an interesting year for the series with the combination of Season 2 and the live-action movie (among other projects)!

I'm Surprised that Kimetsu no Yaiba didn't break a million this week though. It's the first time that's happened in a while, right? Not that it really matters anyway since it will almost certainly reach 3 million the week Volume 21 releases.

Also, seeing Haiyku!! on there makes me really happy! I'm glad that there's rejuvenated interest in the series. I wonder if Season 4, Part 2 can push it any further.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

>Author spends 16 years of his career choosing to work on ecchi projects

>His new series that he's both drawing and writing is clearly a ecchi series

Yeah, i'm sure that drawing ecchi manga isn't really Yabuki's actual desire for his work, he hates it

God, you guys are hilarious trying to argue that Yabuki doesn't just love drawing ecchi kkkkk

 

[haijihusbando]

I'm Surprised that Kimetsu no Yaiba didn't break a million this week though. It's the first time that's happened in a while, right? Not that it really matters anyway since it will almost certainly reach 3 million the week Volume 21 releases.

Reprints scheduled this week though (Volume 1-10 06/25, 11-19 06/26) so it was expected to drop a little.

 

[Halloween]

New poll is up.

 

[SharkBait]

how can one actively read something thats inactive, dont really understand that question

 

[Thundercat27]

Lmao, is it even possible to "actively" read hxh now?