I think you have to create this in Dragon Slayer thread since this is only to discuss power rankings only.What elements will the other Diabolos members have?
I think you have to create this in Dragon Slayer thread since this is only to discuss power rankings only.What elements will the other Diabolos members have?
nah i think natsu will be consider the ace.Laxus has DF, we saw it in his original arc.
Honestly. I don’t see it shifting a ton except for Natsu being on top without power ups.
1) Natsu (Maybe in base, def power up)
2) Gildarts (If still alive, bc of superior hax)
3) Laxus (Should be in his prime as Master)
4) Erza (Will be looked at as top Ace)
5) Gray (won’t have the forms to give him the edge)
6) Gajeel (same)
7) Mira
8) Wendy
9) Elfman
10) Lucy
He doesn't have DF at all. None of the second gen do. He would have oneshotted if he did and the boost would've been noted. The scale pattern would have covered his face and not just chest either.What misconception? He literally just got done taking the rest of the guild out with just his subordinates. An he has the appropriate markings. Provide another reason for him to grow scales and get a massive power boost bro.
Yep, Laxus one shots if that was actually DF (then again, twin Dragon's DF were nothing, soo....idk lol). Apparently the 2nd gen DS get scales upon activating DS magic. Cobra also got lots of scales when he used DS magic.He doesn't have DF at all. None of the second gen do. He would have oneshotted if he did and the boost would've been noted. The scale pattern would have covered his face and not just chest either.
He didn't get a boost, he just used his DS magic lol.
He doesn't have DF at all. None of the second gen do. He would have oneshotted if he did and the boost would've been noted. The scale pattern would have covered his face and not just chest either.
He didn't get a boost, he just used his DS magic lol.
That doesn’t follow. Laxus was already beating them, and the resulting explosion from his release of power pushed them back. An had FL worked he would have 1 shot immediately following the transformation. An where does it state it has to be on his face?Yep, Laxus one shots if that was actually DF (then again, twin Dragon's DF were nothing, soo....idk lol). Apparently the 2nd gen DS get scales upon activating DS magic. Cobra also got lots of scales when he used DS magic.
Laxus didn't insta beat them and couldn't oneshot either of them with DS magic. If he was in DF then he would have oneshotted since he was already stronger than them. To show the scales cover more than just the arms. The scales usually cover the entire body while in DF. It doesn't just go one single part of it.That doesn’t follow. Laxus was already beating them, and the resulting explosion from his release of power pushed them back. An had FL worked he would have 1 shot immediately following the transformation. An where does it state it has to be on his face?
That doesn’t track. We literally never see dragon scales again. He constantly uses lightning dragon magic and his arms are constantly exposed. Unlike Cobra who produces poison with his dragon scales hence the transformation every time.
Cobra’s arms have transformed every time he’s used his power across all forms of media’s.Laxus didn't insta beat them and couldn't oneshot either of them with DS magic. If he was in DF then he would have oneshotted since he was already stronger than them. To show the scales cover more than just the arms. The scales usually cover the entire body while in DF. It doesn't just go one single part of it.
Bcs it was just an aesthetic choice at the time. Cobra's arms don't transform anymore either lol.
DF would have been noted and there would've been a notion of a boost. Every time some has enter DF for the first time it has been noted that they did and/or they show some sort of big increase in power.
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Bro, he didn't use those transformed arms in the GMG, and Tartatus battles lol. Laxus lost his scaly arm thing altogether. Those arms are just for aesthetic choice, they don't give any sort of power up lol.Cobra’s arms have transformed every time he’s used his power across all forms of media’s.
An are you saying had it been effective FL wouldn’t have put Natsu and Gajeel down.
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An let’s not ignore that the first few times DF was clearly still being set in stone.
I doubt it. Not all DF are equal in power. Natsu is the only special one.If Laxus had dragon force he would be the strongest member in the Fairy Tail Guild.
True, the twin dragon's DF............LMFAO, that was beyond disappointing.I doubt it. Not all DF are equal in power. Natsu is the only special one.
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I wish I knew man, I wanted to see more of that as well. IMO it is lacrima drive. If it was DF, then Natsu and Gajeel would've been vapourized from that roar, not just one shot.That doesn’t follow. Laxus was already beating them, and the resulting explosion from his release of power pushed them back. An had FL worked he would have 1 shot immediately following the transformation. An where does it state it has to be on his face?
That doesn’t track. We literally never see dragon scales again. He constantly uses lightning dragon magic and his arms are constantly exposed. Unlike Cobra who produces poison with his dragon scales hence the transformation every time.
and that is why i keep bring it up. amount of wank laxus used to get (and apparently still get) is mind boggling.i wrote what i wanted in the first quote pre TS
laxus was >>> erza i'm not debating to this anymore.
tell this man here @sharkai he keeps bring it back
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my problem has never been that@sharkai i never said u said erza>laxus I said u thought she was an equal which isn’t true if u beleive that Laxus can beat erza high diff it means laxus>erza simple it always been like that till now so rather if the gap is big or not the fact is laxus has always been stronger than erza btw gray implied that Laxus>erza
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you gave me one liner, and want me to leave laxus vs erza lolGajeel has always been stronger than Gray imo. Tartaros made them equal, Both at their peak Gajeel > Gray.
Dude, I am totally fine with you responding to me in debates, or referencing what I’ve actually said, other than that though, keep my name out ya mouth brodi. I don’t appreciate people speaking for me, especially with incorrect assumptions or accusations. Not to start any beef, just to make sure we’re on the same page moving forward.and that is why i keep bring it up. amount of wank laxus used to get (and apparently still get) is mind boggling.
Too bad mishma finally proved that laxus barely stronger than non pof non serious erza
sorry mate. i will keep bring it up, well atleast till something else becomes more interesting or laxus wanks dies. both can happen
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my problem has never been that
ff erza might have been weaker than ff laxus. we dont know
my problem is we know in pre ts laxus >> natsu. and we also know erza >> natsu. the fact there are people who stupidly believes the gap between laxus and erza can be somehow larger than the gap between erza and natsu.
the thing i really want is to know, what is going through there heads.
take @GL_Nova
as an example, he had no problem comparing tartarus jellal vs OS to OS erza vs OS. he would never do this normally. he knows well enough, old villains fall in power levels, but to prove laxus above erza, everything seems to go
we cant be precise man. we dont know how fights will go. if you havent seen them fight, you cant say extreme diff, or high diff.
my personal opinion
laxus might be able to beat jellal high diff
jellal might be able to beat laxus high diff
erza might be able to beat laxus high diff
laxus might be able to beat erza high diff
they are somewhat equal. and we dont know anything more
they are in the same tier, in all timeskip
yes, gray kinda implied laxus is stronger. but he also later said erza already had SO
its same laxus>=erza>>natsu
in all the above, pof has not been taken into consideration
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you gave me one liner, and want me to leave laxus vs erza lol
not so simple
in my opinion
phantom arc
gajeel > gray
(edit sorry forgot one arc)
gajeel>gray (pantherlily being above that other strange guy
(/end edit)
tenrou arc
gray > gajeel (ultear being far above that chicken and that cow)
gmg
three months training shadow gajeel > SO gray
tartarus
des gray = shadow gajeel
alverzec
darkness gray > maybe df type thing gajeel
Appearances where he was wearing gloves the entire arc? An please explain where me stating his dragon scales make the poison is the same as saying it’s a power up? Or did you switch back to taking about Laxus here?Bro, he didn't use those transformed arms in the GMG, and Tartatus battles lol. Laxus lost his scaly arm thing altogether. Those arms are just for aesthetic choice, they don't give any sort of power up lol.
FL has nothing to do with DF or even power, it's a hax related ability. In DF he wouldn't need FL to have oneshotted them.
Yes, but the boost was clearly noted in the fight. If Laxus had DF, why hasn't he used it in any of the fights he needed it in? DF would be a stronger power enhancement than RL lol.
Yes, I agree with you, he fulled out a lot of his Magic Reserve without any effectivity and gave them his own defeat. Laxus was far beyond Natsu's Tier.FL was the reason they were able to face him at all, as he wasted a massive amount of magic on it.
Yes, Laxus is an impressive and destructive wizard who only needed a few blow to crush his opponent. But after his cure, he didn't went into Dragon Force to destroy Walh who was immune to his lightning. By concentring more lightning power, he had to turn into Dragon Force, instead of, he used a new magic hability by accident.Why has Laxus who triea to defeat his foes with the lowest amount of power necessary not used DF in any of his fights since? Other than Hades, who he gave his magic away instead of facing, what opponent did he need to use it against? Most of his foes fell to the first DS spell he uses.
I am not hundred percent clear. But if i am talking with you i give your side benefit of doubt.@sharkai again ur contradicting urself. Answer this do u believe Laxus>erza???
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I thought this is would nicer approach compared to talking behind your back.Dude, I am totally fine with you responding to me in debates, or referencing what I’ve actually said, other than that though, keep my name out ya mouth brodi. I don’t appreciate people speaking for me, especially with incorrect assumptions or accusations. Not to start any beef, just to make sure we’re on the same page moving forward.
As for your example, my form of scaling is consistent throughout the manga. An as for your specific OS example, we have watched Mashima add abilities and storylines to explain how he kept them relevant power wise. So comparing Jellal's performance, who is genuinely considered Laxus equal, to Erza’s performance against them when she’s genuinely considered weaker works fine. Especially since we see directly that She was completely countered by 3 of them, and Jellal took on their entire guild and bested them alone. The only way it doesn’t work is if you insist that Erza has had growth and change in her portrayal which hadnt takes place at the time. The aversion to comparisons like this are personal. I’m quite consistent with them, maybe if you engage me on a topic other than Laxus and Erza, you’d have noticed.
At the beginning of the Manga, I think Erza was very "weak" because of her trauma. Her mind was far weakened her. This is why she was thinking that Natsu was at her level. He was not. She saw herself far weaker than she was just like Jose told her in Phantom Lord.I just believe in a hypothetical scenario, closest fight, i give that high diff
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This makes no sense. I gave you my answer to a question you asked.you gave me one liner, and want me to leave laxus vs erza lol