Oh shit, MASHLE's gonna make the Oricon ranking! It's second volume, too! Now it's becoming a real hit.
Really happy for Mashle, hopefully it will be able to pull 50,000 first week soon. They are still being conservative with Yozakura, despite a very obvious growth. I guess they'll set Mashle as their bar for newbies from now on.
Or maybe there are some people who genuinely liked it from the beginning.
even this week chapter where the author very clearly says "FUCK IT" self insert, breaks the 4th wall, starts shitposting...there are still people cheering it and calling it a great chapter
personally i never got the argument "just be patient it gets better" because even if it does (which almost never happens) how does this magically turns the old poor chapters into something above criticism?
there's also the possibility of it being a prime example "baby's first manga"
basically the medium have received a lot of new fans thanks to KnY, and those newcomers tends to be more vocal and more optimistic than older fans who're more jaded and cynical
Seems fairly likely. For newer series I agree but we could always get sequels for incomplete anime or more older series that never got adaptations being adapted. Could also get some more Jump+ anime if you want to count that.
He's saying that people who have read less manga have lower expectations.
Author started shit posting?
even this week chapter where the author very clearly says "FUCK IT" self insert, breaks the 4th wall, starts shitposting...there are still people cheering it and calling it a great chapter
personally i never got the argument "just be patient it gets better" because even if it does (which almost never happens) how does this magically turns the old poor chapters into something above criticism?
there's also the possibility of it being a prime example "baby's first manga"
basically the medium have received a lot of new fans thanks to KnY, and those newcomers tends to be more vocal and more optimistic than older fans who're more jaded and cynical
Well this is the first year where every WSJ manga is available weekly legally (and the legal option is the most convenient too), so there's probably a lot of people who've never or rarely ever followed a new jump manga from ch 1 before.
Yeah, I recommend reading the most recent chapter just to see how over the top the mangakas pseudo-intellectual ragequit was.
I know that, but people can genuinely like things even if said thing is not a masterpiece, is entry-level, if the person who likes it have read 1 or 1000 mangas before reading it or whatever. You can like something even acknowledging all criticisms as valid, it's not a problem.
I liked the series a lot more than it probably sounds, however I don't think the writer is as clever as he thinks he is. I found it more enjoyable as this pseudo intellectual trainwreck than what it was passing itself off as.
op says he's baffled that when people praise the title they ignore mentioning the story, implying they knew it's flawed but choose to ignore it
in the case of newcomer it's basically this, I'm not gatekeeping or shitting on people's taste, I'm trying to rationalize why people can be less critical in situations when they should be
Oh absolutely, people can like whatever. I agree with you entirely.
I think the main argument was "Give it time, it'll get better" which is what a lot of people here have a problem with.
God, this looks even more retarded than what it sounded like in spoiler.
Thank for encapsulate my opinion about TPG in one sentence. This is the reason why I drop this at 3 chapters and only look at its with morbid curiosity.
...I’ve no fucking idea what’s going on. I’m laughing right now.What does he even mean?op says he's baffled that when people praise the title they ignore mentioning the story, implying they knew it's flawed but choose to ignore it
I replied about why that happens
If you genuinely like story then this doesn't apply to you
you can like whatever manga you like, art is subjective
in the case of newcomer it's basically this, I'm not gatekeeping or shitting on people's taste, I'm trying to rationalize why people can be less critical in situations when they should be
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IMO, in order to survive, you kind of need to hook an audience with something. That hook doesn’t have to be good, but it just has to work. I do think a series can start off bad/mediocre and get better over time (That’s the prevailing opinion of Black Clover after all, and I’m hoping for the same with Ayakashi) but first the series has to actually hook people (Japanese readers) long enough to get them buy the volumes.