Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[pamuchi]

It is on the first page

Horse Ball - glendew

Horse Ball (glendew) - The story of Erwan and Herme - a talking horse - who play horseball together.

medibang.com

Does anyone have the source of the Kimetsu movie being shown in 360 theatres ?

Sorachi is working with the staff for the final movie, a key visual drawn by him will be released Aug 20.

銀魂：新作劇場版アニメ「銀魂 THE FINAL」2021年1月8日公開　空知英秋が全面協力　特報で「これがホントに最後！！！」 - MANTANWEB（まんたんウェブ）

　空知英秋さんの人気マンガが原作のアニメ「銀魂」の完全新作となる劇場版のタイトルが「銀魂 THE FINAL」に決定し、2021年1月8日に公開されることが明らかになった。坂田銀時…

mantan-web.jp

Don't think it was posted, but it was announced that the Kimetsu movie will be shown on 362 theater screens.

Jump Anime Film Theater Screen Counts - 2009+
739 - One Piece Film Gold
653 - Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F
467 - Dragon Ball Super: Broly
429 - One Piece: Stampede
362 - Kimetsu no Yaiba: Mugen Train
313 - My Hero Academia: Heroes Rising
312 - Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods
300 - One Piece Film Z
298 - My Hero Academia: The Two Heroes
268 - Boruto: Naruto the Movie
266 - Naruto: The Last
- Naruto Shippuden: The Will of Fire
264 - Naruto Shippuden: The Lost Tower
262 - Naruto: Road to Ninja
260 - Naruto Shippuden: Blood Prison
258 - HxH: The Last Mission
257 - HxH: Phantom Rouge
233 - Bleach: Hell Verse
188 - One Piece Film: Strong World
179 - Toriko: Bishoukunin no Special Menu
137 - Yu-Gi-Oh: The Dark Side of Dimensions
127 - Gintama: The Final Chapter
91 - KnB: Last Game
90 - Gintama: Shin Benizakura-hen

This number is near the range of other mainstream anime film releases (Conan, Pokemon, Doraemon), and is the highest count in history for a late-night anime.
3b gross is the minimum. I'd love to see a 5b+ gross.

 

[James Rye]

It is on the first page

Horse Ball - glendew

Horse Ball (glendew) - The story of Erwan and Herme - a talking horse - who play horseball together.

medibang.com

Does anyone have the source of the Kimetsu movie being shown in 360 theatres ?

Thanks, mate.^^

It's on the first page. But I sincerely hope you didn't search all 35 just for Horseball.

Uh, well it was actually 34, I started from page 2 and went all the way to page 35. But I don't regret it, found some other mangas that were were fun like X-Roads: Strive and that Gender x Border one, so it wasn't for nothing.

 

[TheEnhancedExe]

Let's say there's a serialization round of 2 to start 2021, that'd be taken up by the Act-age slot and the Bokuben slot assuming it ends as planned. If it's a round of 3, then that final spot honestly I think might go to Moriking before Agravity, letting it crawl along for just a little longer.

I think at this point it seems very likely that there will be another serialization round in 2020. Roboco was at chapter 6 when the current round started. TPGW was at chapter 5 when the Ayakashi round started. So we could get another serialization round around issue 46 when Bokura no Ketsumei reaches chapter 6.

This would make a lot of sense given how many new serialization rounds we've recently had in a pretty short amount of time. Jump desperately needs new hits as fast as possible. Also, they would probably want to fill the Act-Age slot as quickly as possible.

I think there's a good chance that the next round will be 3-4 new series again. The last time we got a batch with 2 new series was the one with Zipman and Agravity Boys. Then, we will probably get another round either in December or January, probably around the time WNL ends or shortly after that.

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

Don't think it was posted, but it was announced that the Kimetsu movie will be shown on 362 theater screens.

Jump Anime Film Theater Screen Counts - 2009+
739 - One Piece Film Gold
653 - Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F
467 - Dragon Ball Super: Broly
429 - One Piece: Stampede
362 - Kimetsu no Yaiba: Mugen Train
313 - My Hero Academia: Heroes Rising
312 - Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods
300 - One Piece Film Z
298 - My Hero Academia: The Two Heroes
268 - Boruto: Naruto the Movie
266 - Naruto: The Last
- Naruto Shippuden: The Will of Fire
264 - Naruto Shippuden: The Lost Tower
262 - Naruto: Road to Ninja
260 - Naruto Shippuden: Blood Prison
258 - HxH: The Last Mission
257 - HxH: Phantom Rouge
233 - Bleach: Hell Verse
188 - One Piece Film: Strong World
179 - Toriko: Bishoukunin no Special Menu
137 - Yu-Gi-Oh: The Dark Side of Dimensions
127 - Gintama: The Final Chapter
91 - KnB: Last Game
90 - Gintama: Shin Benizakura-hen

This number is near the range of other mainstream anime film releases (Conan, Pokemon, Doraemon), and is the highest count in history for a late-night anime.
3b gross is the minimum. I'd love to see a 5b+ gross.

I was asking for the source of this, is there a website where it was published or that complies that kind of info?

 

[pamuchi]

I was asking for the source of this, is there a website where it was published or that complies different that kind of info?

I guess he took it from here https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6867506815?lp=5027&mo_device=1&is_jingpost=0 other than tieba, I haven't seen other source yet

 

[Aiga]

I was asking for the source of this, is there a website where it was published or that complies that kind of info?

For already released anime movie, this site compile their data

Box Office Gross, TV Anime Adaptations

 

[yadayada]

I wouldn't be surprised to see another batch come in october along with the gaiden tbh.

 

[Minsel]

i personally think we wont see a batch till WNL batch

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

Source for the number of theatres Kimetsu is showing (thanks @Tazon)

リダイレクト中...

theater.toho.co.jp

I wouldn't be surprised to see another batch come in october along with the gaiden tbh.

Are you talking about Kimetsu gaiden? Honestly forgot about that. Most likely will come out in October because it seems that is when everything else Kimetsu related is coming out.

 

[Stivie]

I imagine that the next Gotouge manga will just take care of the script and Hirano Ryouji will take care of the art, this gaiden from Rengoku is already his second work involved in kimetsu no yaiba

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

lol again leaking early, bad toc tbh, but is the reflection of having only 13/14 series being ranked, even Mashle dropped a lot so is a bit inevitable that a part of the new series will rank lower, they will not put their big veterans in the bottom, still putting Yozakura in the bottom 2 after that cp, come on.

Only real good thing is Cop and Dolphin getting a cp next week! And honestly the veteran theory dont even apply here when Ayakashi still not getting one so far (which is weird btw), also Shibashi didnt got one with Yui too, so it's probably the earliest one since WNL/Stone (not counting S8), in the phone now so cant properly check, wishing that is a real goood sign for the series.

 

[tirakai]

Ayakashi still not getting one so far (which is weird btw)

Remember Yabuki did that girls of jump poster, so he technically has had a colour page? Maybe not for Ayakashi specifically but certainly to celebrate the veteran returning to the magazine.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Do TOC positions even matter anymore

 

[James Rye]

Do TOC positions even matter anymore

I'd say yes, just for the fact that not the top series get axed but the bottom ones so it is an indicator for what series are in danger when the next axe round comes. Also with CPs and LPs it shows which series the Editorship deems worthy of receiving color and with that attention of the readers. With the position and amount of CPs we can for new series pretty much "confirm" which are seen as a "success" by the magazine and which a "failure".
Obviously that ain't all to it considering how S8 died earlier than Mitama yet it sold way more than it ever did or how Yozakura had bad sales and rankings for a while but still got 4 CPs in total in its one year plus it is still alive while other younger series bit the dust because they did worse than it. But like with Mitama sooner or later Yozakura might get it if it doesn't improve.
Same with AB obviously.
Well and Moriking now.
And maybe some of the other series once they have run a couple weeks past ch.8 and we get to see their first volume sales.

 

[Koni]

Do TOC positions even matter anymore

Depends on who you ask.

Personally, they matter a lot more for newbies than they do for established series. If the manga sinks to the bottom of the charts quickly, then Shueisha doesn't see any value in promoting you that much since nobody's really supporting it anyways.

Sales are more important, though. Especially sales trends.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Depends on who you ask.

Personally, they matter a lot more for newbies than they do for established series. If the manga sinks to the bottom of the charts quickly, then Shueisha doesn't see any value in promoting you that much since nobody's really supporting it anyways.

Sales are more important, though. Especially sales trends.

The TOC just seems kinda randomised to me recently

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

The TOC just seems kinda randomised to me recently

This feeling of "random" is because the current line up and Jump situation, Jump is so full of newbies that aren't 100% stabilished yet that is just impossible for the "ToC" to work like when Jump has a consistent line up and any newbie that comes in it's or a instant survivor or a failure that will get the axe under 20 chapters, and yet we just saw TPG gets brutally axed despite selling more than Moriking, this because the terrible rankings, Bone Collection too despite the 2 first ones, so in the end the toc still the same, only more "vague" because the current situation

Remember Yabuki did that girls of jump poster, so he technically has had a colour page? Maybe not for Ayakashi specifically but certainly to celebrate the veteran returning to the magazine.

Still not a cp for the series.

 

[Stivie]

This year jump lost 5 important manga; Kimetsu no yaiba, TPN, Haikyuu, Yuuna and Act age.

Haikyuu, Kimetsu and TPN sold a lot, especially Kimetsu after the success of the anime.
And yet Act Act cancellation which was on the rise more after the crime committed by the writer, there was no way to continue. And there's still the ending for WnL and maybe Chainsaw man.

Seeing all this, it is clear that these new manga will have a good first rank, jump wants to have more success, even if they have a good media with Mashle and UxU it would be good to have at least one more to compensate for these losses

 

[tirakai]

Still not a cp for the series.

It is however a colour page to celebrate a veteran returning, which is what people are guessing is the purpose of Cop and Dolphin's colour page. Tamura's not exactly going to do a big group poster, so he just gets a regular series colour page instead.

 

[Melvo]

wishing that is a real goood sign for the series.

Same for me, I really love series from Tamura-sensei, and I'm not disappointed with Cop and Dolphin. Really don't want it to be axed.