Mentioned it before, but he's currently in charge of Agravity and launched Higuma and S8. Was possibly an editor for Boruto as well and has been with SJ since 2016.
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But how do you know what happened with S8? This is exactly my point, nobody knows what Kishimoto's relationship with his editor was, yet somehow everyone is convinced they have a clear view of what the editor did or did not do for Kishimoto.
While editors are definitely very important, they’re not solely responsible for a success, and they’re not solely responsible for a failure.
The issues with S8 was obvious very early on. My question is, why didn’t Kishimoto change directions when it was clearly heading into a bad direction? Kishimoto even mentioned the first two volumes is how he wanted it to go because he wanted to get “stuff” out of the way, but at that point, it was already too late.
I can only hope so..... but again, looking at that track record doesn’t give me confidence.
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Exactly. It’ll either be better or worse and we still won’t know until we see it. I’d like to be optimistic, but do you honestly believe a series will go into a better direction with a spotty track record like that? The uncertainty right now is pretty terrifying to me.
Yoritomi's mangaplus interview wasn't a good first impresion for an editor.
Why don't all flops just change directions when things aren't working out? Because it's not so simple to change what you've worked on for months, sometimes for years, on the fly while you already have to work on the manga on a weekly schedule. Or maybe he just didn't want to. Or maybe the editor agreed with Kishimoto. Or maybe they thought it'd get more attention later on. Or maybe they just didn't care because the decision to eventually cut S8 was made as soon as its first volumes didn't work out.
Yoritomi is his old editor, not the new one, and he only launched 1 jump+ series and just now highschool family over his 5 years of working as an editor. It's not like Horikoshi went from a superstar editor like Lin with crazy amount of hits on his back to a nobody.
Only if the mangaka is willing to listen to the editor and change his work according to his advice. For example Ashihara decided to bring in Jin way earlier than planned and cut out many chapters where Yuuma would have been not part of Border because his editor said that the readers need a hook and that the not-border chapters were seen as boring by the readers. Or for Tozuka who had planned for Andy and Fuuko to be on the run for a while kinda like Bonny and Clyde but then changed it when his editor told him there need to be more characters and more bold changes to keep the interest of the readers which is why he pushed the Union arc way more forward to be reached sooner.
I actually think Yoritomi was a good match for Horikoshi. He let Horikoshi experiment with different styles of writing and try different ideas while keeping him focused on the big picture. He and Horikoshi made sure to lay down all foundations for the really big “game-changing” arc and it’s paying off really well now. Of course, getting to this point was a bit of a drag, but not to the point the series completely jumped off a hill.
Bolded: And that is precisely what went wrong. Taguchi was just acting as a yes man to Kishimoto when he needed more constructive feedback.
I meant Taguchi(the S8 editor) not Yoritomi.His interview about Sam8 and kishimoto was bad compared with the others editors.
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But you can't know if Taguchi was just a yes man for Kishimoto without actually being there or having info about it lol. It's just one of multiple possibilities, which is exactly the point, it's all headcanon, perhaps a realistic one, but nothing here is factual. Maybe he was a yes man, or maybe he wasn't. You're just assuming he was and passing it off as the truth.
I was trying to argue by using the same logic as the one you're using here, as in, if you want to judge editors purely by successes and flops, it's not like Horikoshi is moving from a successful editor to an unsuccessful one, they're both unsuccessful editors.
I didn't judge him because sam8 is a failure , you seems to be the one obsessed to use sales=quality , I judge because in his interview seems like he doesn't know how to carry a non-newcomer author to improve himself and felt that he believe the author magically will challenge himself to do that.