Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
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These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Thundercat27]

F

 

[Thehoennhippo]

Unfortunate for Agravity and Moriking since they're still running...

 

[Jovan]

And that puts the nails in both Agravity Boys and Moriking's coffins. I guess they will end in Issues 49 and 50.
Now, it will be interesting to watch whether something else (mostly Hakaishin Magu-chan) gets the boot.

 

[KagamiKuroko]

 

[tirakai]

Yeah that's definitely not a great sign for the two of them.

Personally I'm hoping that Agravity Boys can at least not end until issue #2 in December so it can finish on the anniversary. WNL is due to end in #3 I think so it's a possibility.

 

[TyVip]

Okay but where is the REAL Akayashi's color page

 

[Koni]

Really liked Jujutsu and Ayakashi’s color pages, those look good. Ayakashi’s CP intrigued me, as someone who hasn’t caught up since the first couple chapters. First volume cover is also standard, but I like how both the main characters are on the cover. Usually it’s either the main male lead or the main female lead.

Unfortunate for Agravity and Moriking since they're still running...

Oooh... that’s... unfortunate. Writing is on the wall there.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 24, 2020, Original Post Date: Sep 24, 2020 ---

Can we also talk about Me & Roboco for a bit, cause it's been getting some real solid placements. 4th, 5th, 6th, and now 5th again. Either Nak and the editorial crew are pushing this hard, or this might've genuinely found an audience. Might even get a color page soon at this rate. It's probbably holding the best out of all the series right now.

 

[Thehoennhippo]

Really loving that Ayakashi CP, the cover is ok too. I hope this series is here for a long time and we get plenty more nice CPs.

Can we also talk about Me & Roboco for a bit, cause it's been getting some real solid placements. 4th, 5th, 6th, and now 5th again. Either Nak and the editorial crew are pushing this hard, or this might've genuinely found an audience. Might even get a color page soon at this rate. It's probbably holding the best out of all the series right now.

Really hope Roboco keeps things up, and seeing as even Moriking got a CP I wouldn't be surprised if we see one for Roboco in a few issues.

 

[Ryuusei]

 

[Archaon]

The 2 remain pillars of Jump right now (MHA and OP) don't look too good to me. OP due to it sheer size make it harder for new readers to want to invest, thus it have to rely on it established fanbase with became smaller everyday (people lose interest, people die,...). Meanwhile MHA already reach it peak and it will be extremely hard for it to grow more.

 

[Franz]

Meanwhile MHA already reach it peak and it will be extremely hard for it to grow more.

And why should it grow any more?

 

[101nemesis]

The 2 remain pillars of Jump right now (MHA and OP) don't look too good to me. OP due to it sheer size make it harder for new readers to want to invest, thus it have to rely on it established fanbase with became smaller everyday (people lose interest, people die,...). Meanwhile MHA already reach it peak and it will be extremely hard for it to grow more.

Among ongoing series, One Piece sells 1.8 - 2.2 million per volume within a year. Pretty much double what the closest second (Kingdom) does. People realllyyy need to stop treating One Piece's decline in sales as sort of crisis moment for WSJ.

JK has 250k sales pre-anime. An anime should get it to almost MHA's level of sales if not higher (hoping for higher).
CSM is also quickly growing, even faster than JK (during the same volume counts). When it gets an eventual anime, it could become even bigger.

Newbies such as Mashle and UxU seem to be almost posting 50k volume sales over multiple months per volume. And both are still increasing and growing.

Stop with the doom and gloom.

 

[Archaon]

And why should it grow any more?

Because fanbase won't stay the same overtime. People lose interest. You need grow to make up for the lost.

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Finally caught up with everything, that’s one crazy ToC, Agravity and Moriking definitely aren’t in a good spot at all, and Magu continues to be a bottom dweller, that’s really saddening, UU also got low but at this point it’s not something to be worried about.

Happy that at least Cop and Dolphin got out of there, tho wish it could be higher but won’t complain, good for Yozakura for making it to the top 5.

Liking the Ayakashi and Mashle CPs, also Red Hood’s looks cool as well

 

[pamuchi]

What is the difference between the KNY special chapter of next week and the one people will receive in theaters ? Is it the same ?

The theater one is drawn and written by Gotouge
And the gaiden one is drawn by Hirano and written by Gotouge

I guess the gaiden one will be about a random mission but the Gotouge one is about Kyojurou origins.

 

[MrDropCombo]

Walked on to Twitter to see one of fav MHA characters trending and instantly regret checking to see why - be careful peeps

 

[Koni]

Oh yeah, HeroAca chapters have been trending on Twitter these past few weeks and this one in particular is pretty damn huge. Be careful.

Text spoilered despite being vague because it has to do with the recent chapter and if people ever see the chapter trending knowing this, they can piece together the dots.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

We Never Learn new volume isnt in the promotion page too, seems like isnt as much off a "sign" like you guys are trying to make, more like the add has too much big series eating space of a single page since is KnY, Tpn, BC, Jjk, and both Mashle and Ayakashi that ofc they will push more, ofc still not a positive thing but after all this time i doubt a missing cover ilustration is the true Agravity killer kkkk

 

[Roacher]

Some days ago there was PV of Taiso Samurai (Gymnastic) and SK8 (Skateboarding) and both shows looks nice. I think Jump should power up their lineup of new sports series.

 

[Stivie]

We Never Learn new volume isnt in the promotion page too, seems like isnt as much off a "sign" like you guys are trying to make, more like the add has too much big series eating space of a single page since is KnY, Tpn, BC, Jjk, and both Mashle and Ayakashi that ofc they will push more, ofc still not a positive thing but after all this time i doubt a missing cover ilustration is the true Agravity killer kkkk

This is the pre-sale rank of amazon in October.

Kimetsu no Yaiba 22 #1
Yakusoku no Neverland 20 #91
BURN THE WITCH 1 #898
Black Clover 26 #930
We Never Learn 19 #1,499
Ayakashi Triangle 1 #2,816
Mashle 3 #4,328
Mitama Security 5 #13,510
Agravity Boys 3 #16,530
Moriking 2 #32,349
TimeParadox Ghost Writer 2 #45,766

must have updated again.

But in any case it is kind of obvious that mitama and time paradox did not appear in the disclosure because they were canceled.
We never learn does not have much more to offer, currently it is optional you choose to accompany it or not.
As for Agravity and Moriking, I think it is likely that the jump has already given up on them and has little hope for their growth.
It is best to invest in Mashle and Ayakashi triangle, which seems to have more opportunities for evolution.