Question Which characters had the most disappointing treatment?

The greatest disappointment?

  • Jellal

  • Mira

  • Gods of Ishgar

  • Spriggan 12

  • Zeref

  • Others


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There are some characters in FT whose stock has taken a nosedive. The world of magic is harsh, and fortunes turn in the blink of an eye. Some who didn't came close to living up to the hype, and others who didn't even have a proper chance to begin with.

Which of these have been the greatest disappointment in your opinion?



Jellal

If you are too young to remember, or only got into FT not long ago, there was a time when Jellal's fan base seriously rivals that of Laxus'. Seems hard to believe now, but there were good reasons why Jellal was the shits back then. Together with Ultear, Jellal was the first recurring character to appear in the manga even before Natsu or Lucy did. The closest thing to an archmage, Jellal was a true evil SOB then. He was skilled and powerful with his heavenly body magic, could trap and ensnare with his dangerous dark magic, cunning, a good actor who could play the victim card, but ruthless and decisive when it mattered.

Shortly after the guild wars with Phantom Lord was over, Jellal and his underlings captured Erza and brought her back to the ToH. A plan has already been set in motion many years back when Jellal, under the disguise of his thought projection, had infiltrated the magic council and earned a place as a wizard saint (it was a big thing then). He then managed to get most of the councilors on his side to manipulate them in firing the Etherion, and would've achieve his objective had a certain dragon slayer not attain his super saiyan mode in dragon force. In the midst of these, Jellal also became the first antagonist to kill a notable good guy.

When Jellal was reintroduced in the middle of the Oracion Seis arc, the rape face he worn previously was soon replaced with a sorrowful one. Little did we know, Jellal was neutered during his comatose state. The guy was still powerful, but the edge and mystique his character possessed has completely vanished. Apart from making use of the excuse of redemption to simp for Erza, the guy has since been reduced to a shadow of his former self.

Mira

Yes, it might be hard to believe too. But there was a time when Erza vs Mira was the second most popular discussion after Jellal vs Laxus.

When Mira first appeared, her affable nature stood out amongst a bunch of ragtag misfits. Then during the BoFT arc, Freed who has been playing most of the FT members like a fiddle with his abilities, suddenly found himself on the receiving end of the wrath of Mira when she awoke her powers for the first time in a long time. She unleashed the power of an entire river at Freed, and ended him with an attack of dark energy blast that many in the city saw. It was one of the most badass moment of the distant past. To say that was a pleasant surprise would be an understatement. In a time when Erza was starting to terrorize the readers with her BS, this quickly cemented Mira as the glimpse of hope that we could place our hopes on to end the scarlet cancer's reign of terror.

Little did we found out that did was nothing but a scheming ploy to crush the hopes and dreams of the readers in a slow, agonizing death. When Lisanna was revealed to be alive in the Edolas arc, many assumed that Mira would finally be able to forgo the guilt that was holding her back all these while and elevate herself to greater heights. And then, she got deceived and knocked out by Elfman and Ever in the very next arc. To compound misery, she then failed to beat Azuma who had yet to merge with the Tenrou tree, as Lisanna and the fans erupted in despair. Azuma, then merged with the tree, skyrocketed in power, and got defeated by none other than Erza, in ludicrous fashion.

Alas, what goes around comes around. She, who dished out a curbstomp to Freed, got curbstomped by Seilah. Mira was already having an incredibly difficult time fighting Seilah, who was doing nothing but using telekinesis to pelt her with books. She then decides to use Satan soul Sitri, and Seilah responded by going limit release and decks her with a blitz so strong that Mira is actually forced out of her transformation. She had to resort to using her brother to incapacitate her foe, which sparked the question if Elfman's offensive strength has surpassed that of his sister. Meanwhile, Seilah's dominatrix lover got her ass handed to her by her eternal rival Erza in yet another ludicrous manner.

The pill was made tougher to swallow in the 100YQ sequel when despite the numerical advantage, Mira could not defeat Lucy. Then, the majority of her fight with Diabolos was not shown before getting off-panel'd by Gray. Rather than getting our doubts cleared, Mira's performance has since raised even greater doubts than before.

Gods of Ishgar

After Makarov and Jose's fight at the climax of the Phantom Lord arc, many guesses have been made regarding the identity of the other Wizard Saints. We discovered two of them in Jellal's thought projection and the humble Jura. And this benchmark the saints to be at least as strong as the average FT S-class mage, who has extraordinary level of strength compared to most other guilds. Soon after the 7 year timeskip, we were thrust into the GMG arc where FT tried to reclaim their position as the strongest guild of Ishgar. We were treated to the revelation that Jura has grown significantly more powerful, as his feats easily outclassed his peers and together with Jellal and Laxus, were in a tier of their own.

Then, a bombshell was dropped. Jura remarked that he has attained the rank of the 5th-ranked Wizard Saint, and there was a massive gulf in class between he and the four saints ranked ahead of him. They were known as the Gods of Ishgar, and all the readers were treated to was their silhouette. This sparked the fan base into a frenzy then, as speculation was flying around. Theories were made regarding their appearances, identity, powers and relative strength compared to others. 'Surely they are stronger than Gildarts?', was the common belief then.

Well, some things are just meant to be. As long a time it took to introduce them, the same could not be said of the alarming speed they went down. It's like they were just . . . gone. Gone like the wind. Nothing left. Zilch. Nada. Hold on a sec, who are they again?



Spriggan 12

You know it. You saw it coming. Yes, this list cannot be completed without the almighty Spriggan 12.

The Shields of the Spriggan was comprised of the twelve strongest mages of the Alvarez empire who served as the bodyguards of Zeref. The stakes were at an all-time high with the fearsome country trying to expand the lands of Alakitasia. Which turns out be a facade for Zeref's hidden agenda of obtaining Fairy Heart to create a universe with an alternate timeline. It was Mashima's attempt to replicate the world war. Except that Alvarez turned out to not be the Nazis, but rather the French.

In a shounen setting, they were doomed to failure. They can be forgiven for losing the war. However, it was their performance and association with Mashima's lackadaisical writing in the final arc that gave them no chance. Most of them were arrogant, complacent, and certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed. In their defense, some of them did got bad match ups in their fights. However, the hallmark of a competent fighter is their resourcefulness to pull off a victory within reason despite poor match ups (e.g. Gray vs Ultear/Rufus/Silver). The Spriggans were overly reliant on their powers, and when the protagonists managed to find a way to work around their effects, their inability to adapt, mediocre durability and tendency to shit their pants meant they suffer a meltdown before getting destroyed.

In hindsight, 12 villains in one arc were too much for Mashima to juggle. It seems to be a numbers game at the end, and he decided to go with quantity over quality. The Spriggans could each have their own background so they are more relatable to the readers, strike a better balance between hax and physical competency rather than swinging too much to one end at the expense of the other. They could pose a genuine threat by winning the crucial fights. One of the best scenes in the Alvarez arc was when Sabertooth suffered a crushing defeat and were crucified and paraded. And when Invel froze Magnolia and Erza and co. overlooked the remains of a frozen wasteland. It shows the territorial capitulation to the readers.

Unfortunately, the Spriggan were nothing more than appetizers to Acnologia the main threat. Whatever happened to the three-way war that was hyped up?

Zeref

He comes as a package together with his team of bodyguards. Except in Zeref's case, the rot has been longer. Far longer.

One of the reasons why I could never take him seriously was his appearance. He doesn't look anything like a villain. Zeref doesn't inspire confidence, fear, strength or courage. He look like a pre-pubescent boy who has only just discovered the birds and the bees for the first time in his life. In comparison, Acno was a good throwback to the Conan the barbarian with his exotic features and primalistic swagger.

Not only does Zeref not look the part as one of the main antagonist, he does not act the part either. His behaviour is questionable, and many times when he speak, his words are not concise. Zeref is constantly flip-flopping around his intentions, and can't make up his mind what he truly wants. When he was introduced, he swiftly lost to Ultear on Tenrou island in an anti-climatic fashion. Much of his mystique disintegrated that day. He then awaken and decided to kill Hades and the rest on the airship, just because. His actions were often counter-intuitive and rarely given an explanation that we can relate to. It just felt like anything he does that is contradictory, which is everything, can be conveniently chalked up to the nature of his curse/magic. That's lazy writing. And when it keeps getting repeated, things got really tedious.

With Zeref, you soon dread seeing him and getting caught up in yet another one of his melodramatic emotional turmoil. I found myself thinking 'Ugh, not this crap again' when he spirals into his negative nancy syndrome. And for a longest recurring villain that ties in to so many of the key events that has unfolded in the series, that is simply not good enough. When I see Acno, I think 'Awesome, shit's about to go down'. The difference is heaven and earth. For all the incredible hype Zeref had, when everything was settled, he left a lot more to be desired.

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Ok if were being honest. the characters with the worst treatment are:

1) Elfman
2) Gray
3) Gajeel
Why Elfman? I mean, he was always some secondary guy. It's a miracle (a welcome one) that he's scaled as much as he did, and is still somewhat relevant
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In no particular order: Gray, Jellol, Gajeel, GOI, Zeref, twin dragons.

All of them got treated like shit
 

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Why Elfman? I mean, he was always some secondary guy. It's a miracle (a welcome one) that he's scaled as much as he did, and is still somewhat relevant
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In no particular order: Gray, Jellol, Gajeel, GOI, Zeref, twin dragons.

All of them got treated like shit
Because he was relevant in the beginning and then faded.
 

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They wouldn't be fodder . lucy would have beat a major villian
That won't matter to the haters unless the villains did something amazing before Lucy beats them
 

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I have to go for mira, gajeel and the 10 holy mages from ishgar.

Mira started out as a bonafide rival to erza. which was fine and set up a lot of hype for the moment when she would return to active mage duty after overcoming her trauma. Add to that that she has a pretty cool magic. But then... the manga just left her behind. Of course, in context it makes sense she was left behind. She spent a few years mostly inactive because of trauma.. And then when the magic games became a thing the main cast got second origin and... she didn't. Once second origin became a thing she just wasn't worth enough to be a rival to erza. Odds are she was straight up weaker than at least most mages who got second origin.

Then gajeel.. He was kinda left behind as well when second origin became a thing. Add to that he is just not as interesting if he isn't really a rival to natsu. he doesn't even hold a candle to natsu in any meaninful way. Gajeel is basically discount vegeta. Dollar store vegeta. Made in china vegeta. Thrift shop vegeta?

And the 10 wizard saints... The series treated them like a joke. First we see serena just wreck the top wizard saints... And then serena got murdered with one off handed attack. We didn't even need to be told acknologia was BS strong, we knew that. This wasn't even about building hype, it was about mashima getting rid of characters he decided had no real room in the story.
 

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I have to go for mira, gajeel and the 10 holy mages from ishgar.

Mira started out as a bonafide rival to erza. which was fine and set up a lot of hype for the moment when she would return to active mage duty after overcoming her trauma. Add to that that she has a pretty cool magic. But then... the manga just left her behind. Of course, in context it makes sense she was left behind. She spent a few years mostly inactive because of trauma.. And then when the magic games became a thing the main cast got second origin and... she didn't. Once second origin became a thing she just wasn't worth enough to be a rival to erza. Odds are she was straight up weaker than at least most mages who got second origin.

Then gajeel.. He was kinda left behind as well when second origin became a thing. Add to that he is just not as interesting if he isn't really a rival to natsu. he doesn't even hold a candle to natsu in any meaninful way. Gajeel is basically discount vegeta. Dollar store vegeta. Made in china vegeta. Thrift shop vegeta?

And the 10 wizard saints... The series treated them like a joke. First we see serena just wreck the top wizard saints... And then serena got murdered with one off handed attack. We didn't even need to be told acknologia was BS strong, we knew that. This wasn't even about building hype, it was about mashima getting rid of characters he decided had no real room in the story.
The obvious answer is Lucy.
 

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are you trolling at this point? Series isn’t just the Lucy show if you haven’t realized lol
Well it damn well should be. The main heroine shouldn't be overshadowed by Wendy or Erza anymore.
 

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Lucy generally gets to save the day at least once per arc though. Like during the tartarus arc where she was the sole FT member left, took on a bunch of demons by herself and then summoned the stellar spirit king to save everyone. Her contributions to arcs are generally more than substantial.
 

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Lucy generally gets to save the day at least once per arc though. Like during the tartarus arc where she was the sole FT member left, took on a bunch of demons by herself and then summoned the stellar spirit king to save everyone. Her contributions to arcs are generally more than substantial.
Not enough.
 

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There are some characters in FT whose stock has taken a nosedive. The world of magic is harsh, and fortunes turn in the blink of an eye. Some who didn't came close to living up to the hype, and others who didn't even have a proper chance to begin with.

Which of these have been the greatest disappointment in your opinion?



Jellal

If you are too young to remember, or only got into FT not long ago, there was a time when Jellal's fan base seriously rivals that of Laxus'. Seems hard to believe now, but there were good reasons why Jellal was the shits back then. Together with Ultear, Jellal was the first recurring character to appear in the manga even before Natsu or Lucy did. The closest thing to an archmage, Jellal was a true evil SOB then. He was skilled and powerful with his heavenly body magic, could trap and ensnare with his dangerous dark magic, cunning, a good actor who could play the victim card, but ruthless and decisive when it mattered.

Shortly after the guild wars with Phantom Lord was over, Jellal and his underlings captured Erza and brought her back to the ToH. A plan has already been set in motion many years back when Jellal, under the disguise of his thought projection, had infiltrated the magic council and earned a place as a wizard saint (it was a big thing then). He then managed to get most of the councilors on his side to manipulate them in firing the Etherion, and would've achieve his objective had a certain dragon slayer not attain his super saiyan mode in dragon force. In the midst of these, Jellal also became the first antagonist to kill a notable good guy.

When Jellal was reintroduced in the middle of the Oracion Seis arc, the rape face he worn previously was soon replaced with a sorrowful one. Little did we know, Jellal was neutered during his comatose state. The guy was still powerful, but the edge and mystique his character possessed has completely vanished. Apart from making use of the excuse of redemption to simp for Erza, the guy has since been reduced to a shadow of his former self.

Mira

Yes, it might be hard to believe too. But there was a time when Erza vs Mira was the second most popular discussion after Jellal vs Laxus.

When Mira first appeared, her affable nature stood out amongst a bunch of ragtag misfits. Then during the BoFT arc, Freed who has been playing most of the FT members like a fiddle with his abilities, suddenly found himself on the receiving end of the wrath of Mira when she awoke her powers for the first time in a long time. She unleashed the power of an entire river at Freed, and ended him with an attack of dark energy blast that many in the city saw. It was one of the most badass moment of the distant past. To say that was a pleasant surprise would be an understatement. In a time when Erza was starting to terrorize the readers with her BS, this quickly cemented Mira as the glimpse of hope that we could place our hopes on to end the scarlet cancer's reign of terror.

Little did we found out that did was nothing but a scheming ploy to crush the hopes and dreams of the readers in a slow, agonizing death. When Lisanna was revealed to be alive in the Edolas arc, many assumed that Mira would finally be able to forgo the guilt that was holding her back all these while and elevate herself to greater heights. And then, she got deceived and knocked out by Elfman and Ever in the very next arc. To compound misery, she then failed to beat Azuma who had yet to merge with the Tenrou tree, as Lisanna and the fans erupted in despair. Azuma, then merged with the tree, skyrocketed in power, and got defeated by none other than Erza, in ludicrous fashion.

Alas, what goes around comes around. She, who dished out a curbstomp to Freed, got curbstomped by Seilah. Mira was already having an incredibly difficult time fighting Seilah, who was doing nothing but using telekinesis to pelt her with books. She then decides to use Satan soul Sitri, and Seilah responded by going limit release and decks her with a blitz so strong that Mira is actually forced out of her transformation. She had to resort to using her brother to incapacitate her foe, which sparked the question if Elfman's offensive strength has surpassed that of his sister. Meanwhile, Seilah's dominatrix lover got her ass handed to her by her eternal rival Erza in yet another ludicrous manner.

The pill was made tougher to swallow in the 100YQ sequel when despite the numerical advantage, Mira could not defeat Lucy. Then, the majority of her fight with Diabolos was not shown before getting off-panel'd by Gray. Rather than getting our doubts cleared, Mira's performance has since raised even greater doubts than before.

Gods of Ishgar

After Makarov and Jose's fight at the climax of the Phantom Lord arc, many guesses have been made regarding the identity of the other Wizard Saints. We discovered two of them in Jellal's thought projection and the humble Jura. And this benchmark the saints to be at least as strong as the average FT S-class mage, who has extraordinary level of strength compared to most other guilds. Soon after the 7 year timeskip, we were thrust into the GMG arc where FT tried to reclaim their position as the strongest guild of Ishgar. We were treated to the revelation that Jura has grown significantly more powerful, as his feats easily outclassed his peers and together with Jellal and Laxus, were in a tier of their own.

Then, a bombshell was dropped. Jura remarked that he has attained the rank of the 5th-ranked Wizard Saint, and there was a massive gulf in class between he and the four saints ranked ahead of him. They were known as the Gods of Ishgar, and all the readers were treated to was their silhouette. This sparked the fan base into a frenzy then, as speculation was flying around. Theories were made regarding their appearances, identity, powers and relative strength compared to others. 'Surely they are stronger than Gildarts?', was the common belief then.

Well, some things are just meant to be. As long a time it took to introduce them, the same could not be said of the alarming speed they went down. It's like they were just . . . gone. Gone like the wind. Nothing left. Zilch. Nada. Hold on a sec, who are they again?



Spriggan 12

You know it. You saw it coming. Yes, this list cannot be completed without the almighty Spriggan 12.

The Shields of the Spriggan was comprised of the twelve strongest mages of the Alvarez empire who served as the bodyguards of Zeref. The stakes were at an all-time high with the fearsome country trying to expand the lands of Alakitasia. Which turns out be a facade for Zeref's hidden agenda of obtaining Fairy Heart to create a universe with an alternate timeline. It was Mashima's attempt to replicate the world war. Except that Alvarez turned out to not be the Nazis, but rather the French.

In a shounen setting, they were doomed to failure. They can be forgiven for losing the war. However, it was their performance and association with Mashima's lackadaisical writing in the final arc that gave them no chance. Most of them were arrogant, complacent, and certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed. In their defense, some of them did got bad match ups in their fights. However, the hallmark of a competent fighter is their resourcefulness to pull off a victory within reason despite poor match ups (e.g. Gray vs Ultear/Rufus/Silver). The Spriggans were overly reliant on their powers, and when the protagonists managed to find a way to work around their effects, their inability to adapt, mediocre durability and tendency to shit their pants meant they suffer a meltdown before getting destroyed.

In hindsight, 12 villains in one arc were too much for Mashima to juggle. It seems to be a numbers game at the end, and he decided to go with quantity over quality. The Spriggans could each have their own background so they are more relatable to the readers, strike a better balance between hax and physical competency rather than swinging too much to one end at the expense of the other. They could pose a genuine threat by winning the crucial fights. One of the best scenes in the Alvarez arc was when Sabertooth suffered a crushing defeat and were crucified and paraded. And when Invel froze Magnolia and Erza and co. overlooked the remains of a frozen wasteland. It shows the territorial capitulation to the readers.

Unfortunately, the Spriggan were nothing more than appetizers to Acnologia the main threat. Whatever happened to the three-way war that was hyped up?

Zeref

He comes as a package together with his team of bodyguards. Except in Zeref's case, the rot has been longer. Far longer.

One of the reasons why I could never take him seriously was his appearance. He doesn't look anything like a villain. Zeref doesn't inspire confidence, fear, strength or courage. He look like a pre-pubescent boy who has only just discovered the birds and the bees for the first time in his life. In comparison, Acno was a good throwback to the Conan the barbarian with his exotic features and primalistic swagger.

Not only does Zeref not look the part as one of the main antagonist, he does not act the part either. His behaviour is questionable, and many times when he speak, his words are not concise. Zeref is constantly flip-flopping around his intentions, and can't make up his mind what he truly wants. When he was introduced, he swiftly lost to Ultear on Tenrou island in an anti-climatic fashion. Much of his mystique disintegrated that day. He then awaken and decided to kill Hades and the rest on the airship, just because. His actions were often counter-intuitive and rarely given an explanation that we can relate to. It just felt like anything he does that is contradictory, which is everything, can be conveniently chalked up to the nature of his curse/magic. That's lazy writing. And when it keeps getting repeated, things got really tedious.

With Zeref, you soon dread seeing him and getting caught up in yet another one of his melodramatic emotional turmoil. I found myself thinking 'Ugh, not this crap again' when he spirals into his negative nancy syndrome. And for a longest recurring villain that ties in to so many of the key events that has unfolded in the series, that is simply not good enough. When I see Acno, I think 'Awesome, shit's about to go down'. The difference is heaven and earth. For all the incredible hype Zeref had, when everything was settled, he left a lot more to be desired.

Thoughts?
Disagree heavily on Zeref. First off him nkt looking like a straight villain is what makes him unique imo. Especially compared to other ft villains who just look evil like acnologia. It’s something you don’t expect especially his atti in the beginning. He lost to Ultear because he was suppressing himself and he didn’t kill hades just cause. Hades pissed him off because of his horrible actions and caused him to not care about human life anymore and basically made him give in into his curse. he wanted to die but changed his mind once he gave into his curse and wanted fairy heart instead to defeat acnologia and reset the world. And him contradicting himself isn’t lazy writing. It makes him un predictable and besides I get whenever acnologia shows up its hype but that’s it. He’s just a hype guy. Barley any depth to him at all. At least Zeref has that.
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She shouldn't be tho considering how he writes his other female MCs lol. Lucy shouldn't be this weak compared to Gray, Erza and Natsu. Even Wendy is better than her now...
Late post but I don’t consider Lucy being done dirty considering she still played major roles in the story. And as for her being weak compared to the other members of Team natsu I mean she doesn’t have to be as strong as them to be relevant. Besides only way I can see her ever being close to Natsu, Erza and grays level is if Hiro gives her celestial spirit queen dress. Do it Hiro come on!
 

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GOI for the hype that we got but didn’t reach our expectations. Hiro just decided that we should just deal with what was shown and move on.

Mira also for giving her hype by statements more than an actual battle that should be more than enough to prove she is strong and still equally strong as Erza.

Zeref mostly because I’m not satisfied with his end battle against Natsu. I was expecting to see destruction during the fight. Instead he was always saying “E.N.D!!,E.N.D.!!” and being emotional.For all the hype since the beginning,I was expecting more from him. IMO,Hades (and Tartarus) are better villains than him.

Gajeel and Gray for not keeping up as Natsu’s rivals. Gajeel was much more underutilized in the main manga but Gray’s been lagging behind so far in the sequel.

Then Lucy because her magic was not put in the better use when it comes to battles. Big disappointment to the spirits for changing career as clowns instead of being useful to Lucy.
 

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I love Jellal and Erza equally, but IMO Erza is treated worse than any other character in this story. At least with Jellal there is the excuse of him being a side character, while there is absolutely no excusing the way Erza has been treated. I only pray she gets back everything that's been taken from her from Tartaros onwards. I dare say I have a little bit of hope since Irene is back, her fight with Laxus was decent and Mashima promised development with her relationship with Jellal in his autograph session. However he has disappointed me far, far too many times for me to trust him.
 

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My dude the cold stripper.
 

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I love Jellal and Erza equally, but IMO Erza is treated worse than any other character in this story. At least with Jellal there is the excuse of him being a side character, while there is absolutely no excusing the way Erza has been treated. I only pray she gets back everything that's been taken from her from Tartaros onwards. I dare say I have a little bit of hope since Irene is back, her fight with Laxus was decent and Mashima promised development with her relationship with Jellal in his autograph session. However he has disappointed me far, far too many times for me to trust him.
I too think Erza is disappointing, but probably not for the reasons you do lol.

What ways do you think Erza's treatment should be improved?

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Your pfp looks like Darkrai, from a distance lol
 

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I too think Erza is disappointing, but probably not for the reasons you do lol.

What ways do you think Erza's treatment should be improved?
1. There should have been more effort put into her fights

Stop putting her into battles that are literally impossible to win. Stop having her power through anything her opponents throw at her in flame pants. Have her actually use her different armors and weapons.

More fights like Erza vs Midnight. She has the most flexible magic so why wouldn't she use it more? Give her some normal feats, cause at this point the crazy stunts she pulls off aren't even considered as such by the fandom.

2. Let her be consistently powerful

The fact Erza actually loses so many fights/needs assistance against opponents she shouldn't need assistance for only invalidates her feats further. Let her be consistently powerful and improve instead of making her seem weaker.

Her fight with Laxus was satisfactory but how about we get a fight like that she actually manages to win? Just latest chapter she lost without even putting up a fight and even her opponent disrespected her. Stop making her lose and having her opponents constantly badmouth her just to prove a point holy shit (Ajeel, Irene and now this chick).

3. She should have gotten a power up sooner.

Erza's still at her most powerful in her clear heart clothing that she had since TOH. Her most useful armor is the Heaven's Wheel which is literally the first one we ever saw. It feels like every other character keeps improving while she's stuck in a limbo, as if she's some kinda side character.

During Tartaros/Avatar all the main characters got some type of power up except her. She should've gotten something new when everyone else did, and not in a goddamn sequel.

4. Just better treatment during Tartaros in general.

This was the worst arc for Erza. She spent half the time getting tortured and humiliated. Had an off paneled fight with a character that was at that point fodder, and a two chapter fight that was made irrelevant and only served to create controversies. During all of that, the only characters she had any interactions with were Minerva and the fucking cats. Also hate they added the stupid gag about how she's apparently illiterate now.

Let her be with her friends, at least a little. Give her some big emotional moments like the rest had (Lucy with Aquarius, Gray with Silver, Wendy and Carla...). Give her some plot importance instead of pushing her to the side. If she has to be tortured, the scenes should be less fetishized. It should have a bigger impact / consequence for her character. Don't turn it comedic and wave it off in one scene like nothing happened.

5. Her romance with Jellal should've gotten more attention.

Look, I know most people here don't care about shipping, but it's more than just that. Like it or not Erza's character is connected with Jellal's. He was a key figure in her backstory and character arc. In the first half of the story they were built up as the biggest and most explicit love story of FT. The fact Gajeel's fanservice romance with Levy got more attention in the last few arcs is straight up disrespectful. You can't put so much effort into jerza, give them focus and attention, only to abandon it because... the other ship seemed more popular overseas I guess? Who cares about good writing, what's important is what the fans want amirite? 🙄

Erza's story started with her and Jellal being slaves, and it should have ended with them finally being free and living a happy normal life together. It would have been a beautiful way to end their story, had Mashima not spent so much time focusing on irrelevant romances.

These are all complaints for the second half of the story, post-GMG. I have no problems with virtually anything before that.
 

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I'll say, every one except Natsu and Wendy at this point. No one has had a real chance to shine. Or gets used as fan service. I'm hoping for this new arc we are in and maybe improve after, I won't judge till this arc is over.
 

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I'll say, every one except Natsu and Wendy at this point. No one has had a real chance to shine. Or gets used as fan service. I'm hoping for this new arc we are in and maybe improve after, I won't judge till this arc is over.
Natsu does get most of the major fights and right now is very OP most of the time
 
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