Fantasy Scratchman Apoo vs Zoro + Mihawk

[Pirate Queen]

let's go




50 meters apart, Mihawk and Zoro are unaware of Apoo's ability

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Ok i will bite.

Why exactly would he stand a chance?

 

[goldb]

@Lexusflame please read the info thread and adjust your opening post accordingly. Thanks.

 

[afromarco005]

Aren't we all underestimating the lurking legend a.k.a Scratchmen D.Apoo ?

Apoo is the forgotten ancient weapon "Vivaldi" when awakened he can insta kill any creature with ears.

Spoiler: Leaked end of wano drawing of apoo

 

[Brandish μ]

Zoro can take care of Apoo himself, similarly to say Hawkins. Not the highest difficulty but by no means easy.

Mihawk is not interested.

 

[Ramen]

Why is this a thread? Am I missing something?

 

[Pirate Queen]

Apparently clowns think Apoo is stronger than he actually is so I'm just wondering who else out there thinks Apoo is an actual threat to strong fighters

 

[XXGenesis]

Apparently clowns think Apoo is stronger than he actually is so I'm just wondering who else out there thinks Apoo is an actual threat to strong fighters

He's a threat, but ppl a just dragging it, putting hin against the top tiers...

Zoro would have Mid-High Diff.
Appo is still/was a Captain. He's Kidds rival PTS..So he's always been strong but not insanely strong as to why he's never finished off Kidd.

 

[Pirate Queen]

He's a threat, but ppl a just dragging it, putting hin against the top tiers...

Zoro would have Mid-High Diff.
Appo is still/was a Captain. He's Kidds rival PTS..So he's always been strong but not insanely strong as to why he's never finished off Kidd.

Good reasonable post. Need more of that around here

 

[kkck]

Apoo is without a doubt a tricky enemy but come on, him taking on mihawk AND zoro is clearly insane.

 

[King Moe]

CHECK YOUR ROUTE!!!

Lol, but seriously obviously Apoo lose with them working together, but by themselves Idk. We seen Zoro on his performance lately even same guy and he choose to retreat knowing Apoo more difficult than he looks, so can beat Zoro knowing that. Mihawk has more of chance to beat him, but then again he was stop by YCs threats and even Crocodile stop him from getting Luffy, so debatable as I think Supernovas (Except Killer, Zoro, Bege, and Bonney (Depends what we see her powers later).) would be above Crocodile this point and if more YC lvl of range, then could pose problems on Mihawk especially Sound is can be quite OP and Idk how Mihawk can do as don't think he can cut sound given logic of the situation xD.

 

[Nie Li]

Thank God Mihawk "has a chance" against Apoo.
I guess since Crocodile stopping Mihawk means Crocodile > Mihawk, then Tashigi stopping Zoro in Punk Hazard means Tashigi > Zoro. But Zoro stopped some of Luffy's attacks on Whiskey Peaks so Zoro > Luffy. Also Luffy once punched Blackbeard into the ground, so Tashigi > Zoro > Luffy > Blackbeard.
Tashigi is the hidden sixth yonkou.

On a serious and obvious note:
Mihawk may not be able to "cut sound", but what's for sure is that neither can sound stop his slashes. Nor Zoro's.
R.I.P. Apoo. He won't be missed.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

CHECK YOUR ROUTE!!!

Lol, but seriously obviously Apoo lose with them working together, but by themselves Idk. We seen Zoro on his performance lately even same guy and he choose to retreat knowing Apoo more difficult than he looks, so can beat Zoro knowing that. Mihawk has more of chance to beat him, but then again he was stop by YCs threats and even Crocodile stop him from getting Luffy, so debatable as I think Supernovas (Except Killer, Zoro, Bege, and Bonney (Depends what we see her powers later).) would be above Crocodile this point and if more YC lvl of range, then could pose problems on Mihawk especially Sound is can be quite OP and Idk how Mihawk can do as don't think he can cut sound given logic of the situation xD.

Comparing a whitebeard YC to apoo
Smh

 

[King Moe]

Comparing a whitebeard YC to apoo
Smh

Apoo is looking to be YC lvl strong given portrayal and plus we haven't seen his full power and Sound can be OP along with unpredictable as shown. Zoro even need canonically need to beat him with Drake to have a chance, so there is more truth to this thread than we realize.

 

[Brandish μ]

Zoro even need canonically need to beat him with Drake to have a chance, so there is more truth to this thread than we realize.

No, Drake and Zoro will take care of Apoo. It's not to be inferred that Apoo is stronger than Zoro or Drake. In Kaido's army, Drake is a Tobi Ropo and it looks like Apoo is an underling of Queen. So at best, imo, Apoo is Drake's level.

 

[King Moe]

No, Drake and Zoro will take care of Apoo. It's not to be inferred that Apoo is stronger than Zoro or Drake. In Kaido's army, Drake is a Tobi Ropo and it looks like Apoo is an underling of Queen. So at best, imo, Apoo is Drake's level.

We have to see what happens. I used to think Apoo was even in mid level and more closer to Bege and Bonney before what the arc is showing. Now Apoo is easily Top 5 of Supernovas from what we seen which kinda make sense in hindsight since he has many bouts with Kidd and can fight him off and his Sound DF is OP and that is all not using full power and Haki. If Zoro need Drake to fight with to have a chance, it does push Apoo as another level on how strong he truly is.

Apoo isn't someone to underestimate of what he is capable of and probably going to see more of him being apart especially if Supernova Captains vs Kaido fight perhaps.

 

[Brandish μ]

We have to see what happens. I used to think Apoo was even in mid level and more closer to Bege and Bonney before what the arc is showing. Now Apoo is easily Top 5 of Supernovas from what we seen which kinda make sense in hindsight since he has many bouts with Kidd and can fight him off and his Sound DF is OP and that is all not using full power and Haki. If Zoro need Drake to fight with to have a chance, it does push Apoo as another level on how strong he truly is.

Apoo isn't someone to underestimate of what he is capable of and probably going to see more of him being apart especially if Supernova Captains vs Kaido fight perhaps.

Exactly, it means your basis is not canonical.

Your view on supernova tiers is yours and I'm good with you thinking that way, it could be right, but not canon. Nor is 'Drake and Zoro having to team up'. That's not a fact. There's more likelihood that Drake and Zoro will overcome Apoo easier together than alone. Zoro has been mindful of damage taken too.

I believe I tend to 'underestimate' Apoo, because as far as portrayal goes I don't see him relevant enough. He's got more than Hawkins, for now, but below Drake.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Just noticed that brandish is a SnK fan, i guess he has good tastes on manga

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Apoo is looking to be YC lvl strong given portrayal and plus we haven't seen his full power and Sound can be OP along with unpredictable as shown. Zoro even need canonically need to beat him with Drake to have a chance, so there is more truth to this thread than we realize.

you just showed a logical fallacy. What does zoro and drake have to do with his power? Do you think the udon prison guards are YC tier just because luffy had teamed up with chopper, kawamatsu, okiku, and raizo?
Well, if apoo is YC tier, that explains how he managed to hit zoro by surprise (also showed how strong zoro is to tank a YC attack), but YC whitebeard are stronger than the regular YC. I mean, their captain is rival of the pirate king. So mihawk still wins this easily.

 

[Nie Li]

Just noticed that brandish is a SnK fan, i guess he has good tastes on manga

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you just showed a logical fallacy. What does zoro and drake have to do with his power? Do you think the udon prison guards are YC tier just because luffy had teamed up with chopper, kawamatsu, okiku, and raizo?
Well, if apoo is YC tier, that explains how he managed to hit zoro by surprise (also showed how strong zoro is to tank a YC attack), but YC whitebeard are stronger than the regular YC. I mean, their captain is rival of the pirate king. So mihawk still wins this easily.

I actually also believe Apoo is YC tier, he's a goddamn Supernova of the Worst Generation, after all. But he's no Law, no Zoro and no Luffy. Probably no Kidd either.

While those I mentioned are very balanced, well-proportioned all-round fighters, Apoo is a glasscannon. His technique is devastating and not only can it give him some sweet instantwins, it's also a very hard to figure out and he can easily win a fight before his opponent figures out how it works. However, if a strong opponent makes the first move and he's a serious type, or if any strong opponent figures out his ability, Apoo becomes very easy to counter and destroy.

He's somewhat durable, seeing he survived Kidd's attack, but he was still hurt and it was evident that he can't tank a second one.

Zoro and Drake can both solo Apoo, but teaming up will definitely simply make the job easier for the both of them, and they're certainly in a hurry to defeat him because Apoo is the most annoying character to have around in the middle of a huge battle.

 

[King Moe]

Exactly, it means your basis is not canonical.

Your view on supernova tiers is yours and I'm good with you thinking that way, it could be right, but not canon. Nor is 'Drake and Zoro having to team up'. That's not a fact. There's more likelihood that Drake and Zoro will overcome Apoo easier together than alone. Zoro has been mindful of damage taken too.

I believe I tend to 'underestimate' Apoo, because as far as portrayal goes I don't see him relevant enough. He's got more than Hawkins, for now, but below Drake.

I never said what I said is 100%, but it's clear Oda pushing Apoo as an serious threat, not fodder-like enemy. I am using manga on what it shows. We saw Zoro running away and unable to predict his sound while needing to cover his ears to be safe from him. Now Zoro need Drake X to team up to have chance with Apoo. Even I didn't see this coming on how fighting will goes, but if Oda pushes Apoo like that, we shouldn't underestimate him at all. Again we have to see how it goes it could go how you say or could go in Oda still pushing Apoo to still have importance more in this arc.

I get what you mean, but do know he hasn't use full powers yet and plus imagine if Haki is added to his attacks, so again we have to see how things goes, but Apoo isn't someone who you should take your eyes off.

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Just noticed that brandish is a SnK fan, i guess he has good tastes on manga

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you just showed a logical fallacy. What does zoro and drake have to do with his power? Do you think the udon prison guards are YC tier just because luffy had teamed up with chopper, kawamatsu, okiku, and raizo?
Well, if apoo is YC tier, that explains how he managed to hit zoro by surprise (also showed how strong zoro is to tank a YC attack), but YC whitebeard are stronger than the regular YC. I mean, their captain is rival of the pirate king. So mihawk still wins this easily.

That you need to team up against him to have a chance for Zoro's sake? I saw this just as joking and fun thread, but Oda just made Zoro really need someone to team with to beat him. Just saying thread turns out to be more truth than false looking at it. Also they are fodders and bad example your using as they easily beat them without even need to team up.

I have no idea what your comparing again and will say your running in circles in hurting your own talk, so please let it go as we know Mihawk by his side would help him win, but just saying Apoo turn out to be more dangerous than we realize and right now in canon manga, Zoro can't not solo him if he needs someone to help him. That's just facts showing, nothing being make up here unless your think Oda is one you have issues with.