Games Mafia Game 85 - Shingeki no Kyojin Final Arc - END GAME

Gajeel · Oct 28, 2020

Role List

@Brandish μ as Eren (Bodyguard) (Super Mason)
@Farfalla as Armin (Mafia Mason)
@Seraph as Mikasa (Freeman)
@scav as Connie (Noble) (Super Mason)
@GrySun as Sasha (Bomb Defuser)
@Raven as Jean (Mafia Robber) (Lover)
@Asako as Floch (Kamikaze Bomb) (Explode Night 4)
@James Rye as Levy (Sane Spy)
@Holt as Hange (Time Bomb) (Explode Night 4)
@Shad as Shadis (Mafia Detective)
@Belserion as Annie (Pirate)
@sakura-aneki as Reiner (Prostitute) (Traitor)
@Vandred as Pieck (Naive Detective) (Super Mason)
@Takuan as Porco (Sane Detective)
@Demonspeed as Zeke (Death Miller)
@digitaldude as Magath (Mafia Bomb Defuser)
@MarmaladeSky as Udo (Insane Spy)
@Lambu as Zofia (Mafia Politician)
@Evil3ye as Gabi (Serial Killer) (Lover)
@Copy Panda as Falco (Jesus)
@desin24 as Colt (Sane Detective)
@goodboy_lawlett as Ms. Tybur (Mafia Bomb)
@gnut as Willy (Mason Recruiter)
@BlackTiger as Yelena (Sane Doctor)
@Lady pompom as Onyankopon (Spirit Medium)

Night Actions

Titans
digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
Vandred --> Female Titan (1)
Brandish --> Colossal Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
desin24 --> Attack Titan (1)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
Farfalla --> Cart Titan (1)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0

Priority 1
sakura-aneki (Prostitute) (Traitor) --> Block Evil3ye (Success)

Priority 2
desin24 (Sane Detective) --> Investigate GrySun (Innocent / War Hammer Titan)
Takuan (Sane Detective) --> Investigate Lambu (Guilty)
Vandred (Naive Detective) (Super Mason) --> Investigate gnut (Innocent)
James Rye (Sane Spy) --> Investigate Demonspeed (No results)
Shad (Mafia Detective) --> Investigate GrySun (No results / War Hammer Titan)
digitaldude (Mafia Bomb Defuser) --> Defuse Asako (Success)

Priority 3
gnut (Mason Recruiter) --> Recruit Evil3ye (Fail)
goodboy_lawlett (Mafia Bomb) --> Kill gnut (Success)
Evil3ye (Serial Killer) (Lover) --> Kill goodboy_lawlett (Blocked)

Titans
digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
!goodboy_lawlett --> Female Titan (2)
Brandish --> Colossal Titan (1)
!scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
desin24 --> Attack Titan (1)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
Farfalla --> Cart Titan (1)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
digitaldude (Armored Titan) --> Use Armored Titan's power
Brandish (Colossal Titan) --> Use Colossal Titan's power

Priority 1
sakura-aneki (Prostitute) (Traitor) --> Block BlackTiger (Success)

Priority 2
desin24 (Sane Detective) --> Investigate Asako (Innocent)
Takuan (Sane Detective) --> Investigate Panda (Innocent)
!MarmaladeSky (Insane Spy) --> Investigate Seraph (No Results)
!Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate gnut (No Results)
!BlackTiger (Sane Doctor) --> Protect Lady pompom (Blocked)
!Belserion (Pirate) --> Steal BlackTiger's role (Success)
Shad (Mafia Detective) --> Investigate Lady pompom (Spirit Medium)

Priority 3
!Lambu (Mafia Politician) --> Kill Takuan (Success)

Titans
digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
goodboy_lawlett --> Female Titan (2)
!Demonspeed --> Colossal Titan (2)
scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
desin24 --> Attack Titan (1)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
Farfalla --> Cart Titan (1)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
scav (Founder Titan) --> Use Founder Titan's power on Shad
Farfalla (Cart Titan) --> Use Cart Titan's power on goodboy_lawlett (Blocked)
goodboy_lawlett (Female Titan) --> Kill Seraph with the Female Titan's power (Success)

Priority 1
sakura-aneki (Prostitute) (Traitor) --> Block Farfalla (Success)

Priority 2
desin24 (Sane Detective) --> Investigate Seraph (No Result)
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate Takuan (Night 1; Lambu, Night 2; Copy Panda)
BlackTiger (Town) --> Protect desin24 (Fail, No Role)
Belserion (Sane Doctor) --> Protect Seraph (Fail)
!GrySun (Bomb Defuser) --> Defuse Holt (Success)
Shad (Mafia Detective) --> Investigate sakura-aneki (Prostitute) (Traitor)

Priority 3
!Asako (Kamikaze Bomb) --> Explode on Farfalla (Fail, Defused)

Titans
digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
goodboy_lawlett --> Female Titan (2)
!Demonspeed --> Colossal Titan (2)
scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
desin24 --> Attack Titan (1)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
Farfalla --> Cart Titan (1)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
scav (Founder Titan) --> Use Founder Titan's power on goodboy_lawlett
Farfalla (Cart Titan) --> Use Cart Titan's power on Lambu (Blocked)

Priority 1
sakura-aneki (Prostitute) (Traitor) --> Block Farfalla (Success)

Priority 2
desin24 (Sane Detective) --> Investigate Farfalla (Guilty)
MarmaladeSky (Insane Spy) --> Investigate Farfalla (No Results)
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate Vandred (Night 1; gnut)
Belserion (Sane Doctor) --> Protect Lambu (Success)
Shad (Mafia Detective) --> Investigate desin24 (Detective)

Priority 3
!Holt (Time Bomb) --> Explode on desin24 (Fail, Defused)
Asako (Kamikaze Bomb) --> Explode on Farfalla (Fail, Defused)
goodboy_lawlett (Mafia Bomb) --> Kill Belserion (Success)

Titans
digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
goodboy_lawlett --> Female Titan (2)
Demonspeed --> Colossal Titan (2)
scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
desin24 --> Attack Titan (1)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
Farfalla --> Cart Titan (1)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
scav (Founder Titan) --> Use Founder Titan's power on Demonspeed (SUCCESS!)
Demonspeed (Colossal Titan) --> Use Colossal Titan's power (NULLIFIED!)

Priority 1
sakura-aneki (Prostitute) (Traitor) --> Block Lady pompom (Success)

Priority 2
desin24 (Sane Detective) --> Investigate BlackTiger (Innocent)
MarmaladeSky (Insane Spy) --> Investigate Shad (Randomized to Farfalla)
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate Belserion (Blocked)
Shad (Mafia Detective) --> Investigate Demonspeed (Town)

Priority 3
Farfalla (Mafia Mason) --> Kill sakura-aneki (Success, Traitor Recruited)

digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
goodboy_lawlett --> Female Titan (2)
Demonspeed --> Colossal Titan (2)
scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
desin24 --> Attack Titan (1)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
!BlackTiger --> Cart Titan (2)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
scav (Founder Titan) --> Use Founder Titan's power on GrySun (Success)

Priority 1

Priority 2
desin24 (Sane Detective) --> Investigate MarmaladeSky (Innocent)
MarmaladeSky (Insane Spy) --> Investigate Holt (No Results)
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate Belserion (Night 2; BlackTiger, Night 3; Seraph, Night 4; Lambu)
Shad (Mafia Detective) --> Investigate digitaldude (Mafia Bomb Defuser)

Priority 3
digitaldude (Mafia Bomb Defuser) --> Kill desin24 (Success)

digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
~~Female Titan~~
Demonspeed --> Colossal Titan (2)
scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
!Lady pompom --> Attack Titan (2)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
BlackTiger --> Cart Titan (2)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
BlackTiger (Cart Titan) --> Use Cart Titan's power on scav (Success)

Priority 1

Priority 2
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate desin24 (Night 1; GrySun, Night 2; Asako, Night 3; Seraph, Night 4; Farfalla, Night 5; BlackTiger, Night 6; MarmaladeSky)

Priority 3
Shad (Mafia Detective) --> Kill Demonspeed (Success)

digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
Female Titan
Colossal Titan
scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
Lady pompom --> Attack Titan (2)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
BlackTiger --> Cart Titan (2)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
scav (Founder Titan) --> Use Founder Titan's power on Lady pompom
BlackTiger (Cart Titan) --> Use Cart Titan's power on scav (Success)

Priority 1

Priority 2
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate MarmaladeSky (Night 2; Seraph, Night 4; Farfalla, Night 5; Shad, Night 6; Holt)

Priority 3
digitaldude (Mafia Bomb Defuser) --> Kill Asako (Success)

digitaldude -->Armored Titan (1)
Female Titan
Colossal Titan
scav --> Founder Titan (1)
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
Lady pompom --> Attack Titan (2)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
BlackTiger --> Cart Titan (2)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power
scav (Founder Titan) --> Use Founder Titan's power on Lady pompom

Priority 1

Priority 2
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate Asako (Night 3; Farfalla, Night 4; Farfalla)

Priority 3
digitaldude (Mafia Bomb Defuser) --> Kill scav (Success)

Armored Titan
Female Titan
Colossal Titan
Founder Titan
sakura-aneki --> Jaw Titan (1)
Lady pompom --> Attack Titan (2)
GrySun --> War Hammer Titan (1)
BlackTiger --> Cart Titan (2)
Copy Panda --> Beast Titan (1)

Priority 0/ Titan Power

Priority 1

Priority 2
Lady pompom (Spirit Medium) --> Investigate James Rye (Night 1; Demonspeed)

Priority 3
sakura-aneki (Mafia Member) --> Kill GrySun (Success)

GrySun · Oct 18, 2020

Am not a fan of Lambu only now being anti DD and before was like „Vandred has to go“. But also not a fan of Farf being against Lambu. Don‘t like seeing my suspects heavily distancing from one another like that.

desin24 · Oct 18, 2020

Geez so much potential scum and then we have three afk people who give us nothing thus being the easy target similar to Vandred yesterday.

I could see a freeman as part of the setup simply because the SK could be used to decimate mafia with a cooperative Lover. However, I have never seen a freeman in a game. No such claim has ever been real and claiming active as a means to avoid getting night killed seems weird. Wish we still had a det to check on him.

A real freeman could seriously break our backs with so many roles out in the open. This game started exciting and became quite depressing. Sure hope Asako is lucky though.

GrySun · Oct 18, 2020

desin24 said:
claiming active as a means to avoid getting night killed

Feels like we‘ve seen so many weird things this game and it‘s only D3.

Farfalla · Oct 18, 2020

GrySun said:
Am not a fan of Lambu only now being anti DD and before was like „Vandred has to go“. But also not a fan of Farf being against Lambu. Don‘t like seeing my suspects heavily distancing from one another like that.

Yeah, this comment gave me a Vandred deja vu, huhu. Will just leave this here ^.~

Lambu · Oct 18, 2020

The only explanation for two pirates in this game is the theme itself, cause titan shifting = stealing another's power/role, but either way its too farfetched, even more with a "so called" apprentice around.

GrySun said:
Am not a fan of Lambu only now being anti DD and before was like „Vandred has to go“. But also not a fan of Farf being against Lambu. Don‘t like seeing my suspects heavily distancing from one another like that.

I've been against dd for a while now and was going to vote him yesterday if it wasn't for the doc claim (you can check back D2), caught me off guard at the time and didn't want to risk it since I wasn't going to be around so voted Van. From the way he was playing I knew he was hiding on purpose, just didn't know he was hiding a det of all things, didn't expect a train to happen at all. :cookiestare

Now tho dd targetting scav over sakura last night is some big bs for sure.

Going to sleep now, will try to check at work during break.

scav · Oct 19, 2020

uff anyone got a good recap of the role reveal?

Shad · Oct 19, 2020

Votekill digitaldude

Right now I'm planning to vote for either DD, the 2 pirates or the inactive/no role claimed (Copy Panda as an example).
I will read all your input and lock on one.

Brandish: Pressure him to get more information, he can't keep playing his own game in peace.
Gry. Sakura: The most townie
The townies passive: I have no idea what to think of them, gotta see what other do with that information
Asaka: I can wait, she has a time limit anyway.
Seraph: Too risky for me, even worse than doctor claim by DD yesterday

Sorry if I forgot anybody I'm gradually getting to know everybody.

~
Gotta go, I will probably be back before the day is over.

scav · Oct 19, 2020

Lambu said:
Now tho dd targetting scav over sakura last night is some big bs for sure.

what's wrong with that? i like having a medical check up :kappa

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@Brandish μ why did you pretend to hint at being the noble?

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@GrySun got a recap on the role reveal?

GrySun · Oct 19, 2020

scav said:
what's wrong with that? i like having a medical check up

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@Brandish μ why did you pretend to hint at being the noble?

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@GrySun got a recap on the role reveal?

Um, kinda like this.

Brandish μ as Eren - Plain Townie
Farfalla as Armin - Pirate, didn‘t steal anything yet
Seraph as Mikasa - Freeman
scav as Connie - Noble
GrySun as Sasha - Defuser, didn‘t defuse anyone yet
Asako as Floch - Kamikaze Bomb
Holt as Hange - X
Shad as Shadis - Apprentice, not learned anything yet
Belserion as Annie - Pirate, stole Doctor from Tiger
sakura-aneki as Reiner - Prostitute
Demonspeed as Zeke - Plain Townie
digitaldude as Magath - Doctor
MarmaladeSky as Udo - Spy, got no result from Seraph
Lambu as Zofia - X
Copy Panda as Falco - X
desin24 as Colt - Plain Townie
goodboy_lawlett as Ms. Tybur - Jesus
BlackTiger as Yelena - Doctor
Lady pompom as Onyankopon - Spirit Medium

scav · Oct 19, 2020

Brandish μ said:
For the record I have a passive role, with a night action.

Brandish μ said:
Nah all good I shouldn't be lynched.

Brandish μ said:
If you can get me lynched try it.

Brandish μ said:
Put me up as plain town

Brandish is plain townie now?

GrySun · Oct 19, 2020

The role list is almost fully there with 3 missing, and we know at least 5 are lying. Honestly it‘s hard to tell what‘s wrong with the list, as there are different roles that don‘t fit depending on how you look at things.

It also doesn‘t help that we need to live with people trolling or making mistakes, which usually would be an instalynch but on our MH games we need to take mistakes/bad plays into account as a common Town thing to do, so life is hard.

scav · Oct 19, 2020

GrySun said:
The role list is almost fully there with 3 missing, and we know at least 5 are lying. Honestly it‘s hard to tell what‘s wrong with the list, as there are different roles that don‘t fit depending on how you look at things.

It also doesn‘t help that we need to live with people trolling or making mistakes, which usually would be an instalynch but on our MH games we need to take mistakes/bad plays into account as a common Town thing to do, so life is hard.

tempted to lock brandish and go to bed.
who are the 5 you think are lying?

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he's either hiding something or he simply not giving a fck

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VOTELOCK Brandish u

At worst we get to know if plain townie exist or no this game. also sending noble vote his way

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you fake claim noble you get a noble vote. I can go to bed in peace :hi

GrySun · Oct 19, 2020

scav said:
who are the 5 you think are lying?

Really not sure yet, I see multiple different possibilities. I‘ll try to work them out a bit tomorrow if I can and see the most/least likely. Though overall I won‘t be too available tomorrow. Really not used to playing this long :hmm

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Lynching Brandish could be fun but not sure if it‘s the way to go.

BlackTiger · Oct 19, 2020

Can pirate steel mafia doctor role too beside doctor (town role?) in page 111 atm. I waku up with 11 pages. What happens when pirate steal mafia doctor?

GrySun · Oct 19, 2020

BlackTiger said:
Can pirate steel mafia doctor role too beside doctor (town role?) in page 111 atm. I waku up with 11 pages. What happens when pirate steal mafia doctor?

All in the role text in the rules.

Brandish μ · Oct 19, 2020

scav said:
tempted to lock brandish and go to bed.
who are the 5 you think are lying?

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he's either hiding something or he simply not giving a fck

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VOTELOCK Brandish u

At worst we get to know if plain townie exist or no this game. also sending noble vote his way

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you fake claim noble you get a noble vote. I can go to bed in peace

Good job.

Again voting penalties

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Votekill Holt

BlackTiger · Oct 19, 2020

Hmm so I should become roleless town right now but I didn't get any notification? And Belserion should have died if she stops from mafia yet she is alive now because she stops from town.member , me. There is no difference with mafia pirate too hmm.

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Edit:
Stole not stops

Brandish μ · Oct 19, 2020

Won't be able to backread till later in the day

Holt · Oct 19, 2020

GrySun said:
Can we just all claim? No role past Dets and Docs and Prostitute really matter much anymore.

Bomb

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BlackTiger said:
Shouldn't Brandish in the clear? He was target on D1 to protect Raven. I prefer lynching Holt. He was one of Brandish voter. And joined Brandish wagon after Sakura voted Brandish. tHe also vote lock me before I revealed my role and funny thing is he was one of my top suspect.

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Is there jailor role in this mafia forum? Because that's the most important role beside investigative role imo.

BT every second:
Holt sus Holt experienced player

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I am catching up. I'm tempted to rant about how y'all went yesterday from DD/BT to lynching the frigging detective. Extremely coordinated attack (and clearly, one of docs is BSing). Tempted, but enough has been said about that already

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Seraph said:
What's wrong with that, i like the Freeman-Role. Kind of misplaced on a player like myself but randomizer has never been kind with me.

Past games have proven that killers tend to avoid or block me until they have gotten rid of pretty much everybody else that seems to be contributive or holding an important role like Det etc.

I usually either get myself lynched, i get sacrificed or memed by someone. No inbetween. This game seems to going that exact same route as well.

I don't understand, you're freeman? Didn't you earlier say that you didn't want to potentially get in a clash with someone else claiming same role??

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Seraph said:
In my defense, i did not have that much time to figure out a good hint or cover for this one. That was the first thing that came to me so i used it, not the first time i mess up like this.

You didn't have enough time? Uh...were you given an ultimatum to hint or get lynched ?

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Seraph said:
Because DD is lying, early claim and nobody kills him? A player as shaky as him? Sure,no Mafia would miss out on a Doc served on a silver plate like that.

DD is volatile, pretty much gets offed by lynching almost everything. Why would mafia go for him when he is one of those lynched often ?

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desin24 said:
I went for him because in two days all we got was an active hint and not much more. It was either him, Lambu or Panda at that moment since Scav came out as Noble.

Current list:

DEAD:

Raven (Mafia Robber/Lover

Evil (Serial Killer/ Lover

Gnut (Mason Recruiter)

Vandred (Detective)

Takuan (Detective)

James Rye (Spy)

Passive:

Desin (I revealed but no one cared, which is very fitting for Colt and this role lmao)
Demon
Brandish (collosal titan)
lawl
Holt

Active:

Gry (bomb defuser)
Asako (claims Kamikaze Bomb explodes N4)
DigitalDude ( claims Doc used armored titan)
Farfalla (claims pirate)
Lady Pompom (Spirit Medium)
Shad
blacktiger (claims Doc)
Sakura (claims prostitute, cart titan?)
Belserion (never had it before)
MarmaladeSky (claims Spy)
Seraph (trouble for town if lynched, freeman?)
Scav (claimed Noble)

Missing

Lambu
Copan (always wanted to have that role before)

EDITED FOR CLARITY: I ADDED A PARAGRAPH

Side note, since when do you do lists?

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GrySun said:
Do you think 2 mafia teams failed to kill both 2 nights in a row? Or 1 mafia + SK? Because if it's the latter Freeman makes more sense than 2 Doctors.

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Brandish μ as Eren
Farfalla as Armin - Pirate
Seraph as Mikasa - Freeman
scav as Connie - Noble
GrySun as Sasha - Defuser
Asako as Floch - Kamikaze Bomb
Holt as Hange
Shad as Shadis
Belserion as Annie
sakura-aneki as Reiner - Prostitute
Demonspeed as Zeke
digitaldude as Magath - Doctor
MarmaladeSky as Udo - Spy
Lambu as Zofia
Copy Panda as Falco
desin24 as Colt
goodboy_lawlett as Ms. Tybur
BlackTiger as Yelena - Doctor
Lady pompom as Onyankopon - Spirit Medium

Current claimed roles + my thoughts. Just a simple green(trust) - red(no trust) this time, as nobody cares about the nuances anyway.

I'd strongly suggest lynching a red person. If we exclude the Doctors and the Freeman...

desin24
Lambu
Belserion
Holt
Farfalla

Mafia probability here is very high, unless I'm mistaken about some green ones(which is very likely, however these 5 should be shaken down first).

I suggest either Lambu, Bel or Holt.

I care about the nuances. Please elaborate on them

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GrySun said:
Holt is probably mafia, they‘re having some smart person on that team to be relatively hidden after/despite Raven lynch.

Flattering, but it's not me...

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Brandish μ said:
Holt very suss D1.

??? How?

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Seraph said:
You're not making sense.

So you're accusing me to be Mafia, and apparently that i wanted to claim Detective. Right after a Detective got lynched,hmm,okay. Still doesn't work though.

If i wanted to claim Detective all the time, even after Vandred's lynch, then why would the Team decide to take out Takuan? The other Detective? That would shrink any chances for me to make a more or less believable claim. Seems like you're operating under the mindset that my Mafia Team would plan to throw me under the bus midgame, odd but considering you've done it yourself nothing i'm surprised of. Takuan's kill was calculated, the Mafia appears to have a Mafia Detective, there was little to no reason to go after him unless the Mafia knew more than the Townies do since he did his utter best to remain low profile throughout.

As to why i claimed Active and why i claim now, i think there is plenty explanation in a backread. You just have to go and read,then you'll have your answers.

And why did i claim today? I don't know maybe because it was encouraged to do so by more or less trustworthy Townies. One more and final thing, had i wanted to hide i had stayed gone and only showed up to fill my quota. That is what hiding means.

Tbf, if there's a mafia detective, they also decided to check Taku amongst all the active claimers. Say what you will, but clearly they choose Taku. If there's a M.Det and they could do that, then argument could be made that they'd do same without a det (i.e, go for one of the active claims). You're too certain it was calculated when it could have just been a good guess. James guessed the SK correctly and he had almost no info to go on. Why can't a full team collectively guess Taku is a decent target ?

Also, how does what you said address Asako's point? She claimed you switched claims mid-game. If you were going to claim a detective, finding the real one wouldn't change that. There's already a decently high chance of there being 2-3 detectives in a big game. Or at least 2. Anyway, det was just an example, but you can't honestly tell me you thought claiming Active when you're freeman is a smart decision. Whatever you speak of stats doesn't follow. Mafia teams are different everytime depending on the players. Active people are more likely to get offed. You also made it sound like you were on a clock to hint when that's not true

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Belserion said:
You people? As if I was here for the end?

Anyway let me give you something to rant about since you're looking for a reason. My role is Pirate. I was looking for a good role to steal hence my "Mafia lurk". Was hoping for a detective but after I saw the Vandred lynch I figured I might as well move to my second option since the claims were out there. I stole Black Tigers role so I can confirm he was the doctor if indeed there should only be one. Not like I actually expect you, with your agenda, to believe me, so when you form your wagon and lynch me and see I'm telling the truth at least you have BT as confirmed townie. That should get you to settle down a bit and continue your process of elimination next day. Good luck.

This was quite the quick unprovoked switch from not wanting to reveal unless in good faith to putting it all out there. Interesting.
Also, didn't Farf claim pirate as well? Also, stole BT's role to confirm if he's one? And you did this without potentially hinting or letting anyone know? What was your plan for when things go south, hypothetically speaking? Because you're implying you went for him because you didn't trust. If you're really pirate and he was lying, you'd be dead by now. Or did you simply not care enough about town to consider that far ahead?